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SirJackdeFuzz · October 21st, 2009, 12:32 PM

Tele people . . .

. . . i am saking this question for someone else (non forum member).

He is looking for Hot tele pu's to drive his *amps a little more, but must deff retain that distinctive Tele twang.
He played someone elses Tele w SD Cool Rails, and was NOT impressed

* vintage Princeton & newer Pro Jr.

Thanx folks

therhodeo · October 21st, 2009, 03:14 PM

Aren't Bardens hotter than normal tele pickups?

SirJackdeFuzz · October 21st, 2009, 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by therhodeo

Aren't Bardens hotter than normal tele pickups?

No idea - yet

macaroonie · October 21st, 2009, 03:32 PM

NO Affiliation.

Check these out ... bridge dirty sound clip is good and twangy. I plan to use this on my build..

http://www.axetec.co.uk/axetec%20gui...ickups_103.htm

caliban335 · October 21st, 2009, 04:04 PM

Lollar Special T in the bridge and Lollar Charlie Christian in the neck. They will rock and twang with the best of them. I promise.

dconeill · October 21st, 2009, 05:08 PM

C'mon now, we all should have learned this by now. It's a zero-sum game.

If you depart from vintage specs, you depart from vintage sound. If you want "hot" output, the pickup is not going to sound the same as one with "vintage" output. It might sound good, it might even sound better to you, it might not sound different by much, but it **will** sound different from a vintage-spec pickup.

Maybe the OP's friend should get a Tele he/she likes the sound of, then use some sort of booster to increase the gain - a Barber Launch Pad, a T-Rex (was Jauernig) Luxury Drive, or something similar.

Durtdog · October 21st, 2009, 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dconeill

C'mon now, we all should have learned this by now. It's a zero-sum game.

If you depart from vintage specs, you depart from vintage sound. If you want "hot" output, the pickup is not going to sound the same as one with "vintage" output. It might sound good, it might even sound better to you, it might not sound different by much, but it **will** sound different from a vintage-spec pickup.

Maybe the OP's friend should get a Tele he/she likes the sound of, then use some sort of booster to increase the gain - a Barber Launch Pad, a T-Rex (was Jauernig) Luxury Drive, or something similar.

There you have it. You can chase hot pickups till the cows come home, but this is the best advice you can get.

bo · October 21st, 2009, 05:48 PM

Yes, either use a box or go older school and just turn up ;)

bradpdx · October 21st, 2009, 07:00 PM

Hotter passive pickups -> more windings -> less twang, more mud.

The only other way to get more passive output is to use very powerful magnets, but then you have additional tradeoffs.

Preamps are the best overall answer. They can be stompboxes (including some of the stompbox EQ units out there) or can be "built-in" to the pickups like EMGs.

EMGs are actually a great example of the type of high-output/high-fidelity sound that active PUPs can achieve. They are perhaps a good choice, and quiet to boot.

SirJackdeFuzz · October 22nd, 2009, 01:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bradpdx

Hotter passive pickups -> more windings -> less twang, more mud.

The only other way to get more passive output is to use very powerful magnets, but then you have additional tradeoffs.

Preamps are the best overall answer. They can be stompboxes (including some of the stompbox EQ units out there) or can be "built-in" to the pickups like EMGs.

EMGs are actually a great example of the type of high-output/high-fidelity sound that active PUPs can achieve. They are perhaps a good choice, and quiet to boot.

Are you referring to those EMG PA2 "boosters" ?

Just how much extra gain, or volume does the "4-pos-mod" give you ?

Tony Reid · October 23rd, 2009, 01:16 AM

Don Mare's Super Sport tele bridge pickup is designed exactly for this purpose.
Check it out:

http://www.buckcannon.com/pickupsfortele.html

Fifth one down. There is a short (very short) sound clip. My experience is that it sounds fatter and has a lot more snarl in the mids than you can hear on this clip. Great tones and harmonics when you drive a tube amp hard!

Hack · October 23rd, 2009, 02:54 AM

SD broadcaster. Does the job. twangs and rocks.

smokerjoe34 · October 23rd, 2009, 04:52 AM

Texas Specials.......................................... ...........................................

DarnWeight · October 23rd, 2009, 08:07 AM

Tonerider Hot Classics. Cheap, too.

RomanS · October 23rd, 2009, 08:51 PM

LeoSounds MudCats from www.leosounds.de are higher output pickups that are also twangy.

mwaym · October 24th, 2009, 12:30 AM

My texas specials do it all !!

moondogz · October 24th, 2009, 12:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by caliban335

Lollar Special T in the bridge and Lollar Charlie Christian in the neck. They will rock and twang with the best of them. I promise.

ditto on the Lollar's.

bradpdx · October 24th, 2009, 01:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bradpdx

Preamps are the best overall answer. They can be stompboxes (including some of the stompbox EQ units out there) or can be "built-in" to the pickups like EMGs.

EMGs are actually a great example of the type of high-output/high-fidelity sound that active PUPs can achieve. They are perhaps a good choice, and quiet to boot.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SirJackdeFuzz

Are you referring to those EMG PA2 "boosters" ?

Just how much extra gain, or volume does the "4-pos-mod" give you ?

Nope, but that might work as well. I was speaking of the EMG pickups themselves, which incorporate internal battery powered preamps. Very hi-fi.

The PA-2 is not properly loaded for passive pickups - the input load is around 10K. A proper preamp for passives should have an input impedance of about 1Meg.

scoots · October 24th, 2009, 05:09 AM

i've found that the scns are very volume knob sensitive. roll back for a more full even sound and open it up for a bite. been playing out alot lately and i like how these sound with some volume behind them. very clear. the neck pup(which is my fav) is kind of strat-ish and i can get a nice punchy twang out of the bridge. they sound good combined and they take pedals well. versatile too. bill lawrence pups

telideli · October 24th, 2009, 05:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hack

SD broadcaster. Does the job. twangs and rocks.

I likey too!

Ricky D. · October 24th, 2009, 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SirJackdeFuzz

Are you referring to those EMG PA2 "boosters" ?

Just how much extra gain, or volume does the "4-pos-mod" give you ?

4-way wiring gives you a combined (series) selection in addition to the traditional options.

In series, the output voltages of the two pickups are added together. So, your guitar's output will be approximately doubled in that switch position. The tone is a little fatter in that position than it is in the combined-parallel position.

If your friend turns up his amp far enough, can he get overdrive with his current pickups? If so, hotter pickups won't do much of anything for him except a slightly better S/N ratio, IMO.

I have the Don Mare Supersport bridge - Stelly neck set. Absolutely beautiful sounding set, a little less bright than my Fender OV set.

Doug 54 · October 24th, 2009, 09:27 PM

G&L

Ormond · October 24th, 2009, 11:28 PM

Amazingly, the brige PU on the CV is a total butt-kicker. I use the stock CV for bite and pure twang, not my Amer. Std.....and my American Tele has a Lindy Fralin on it! (Fralin for more depth).

cherrick · October 24th, 2009, 11:52 PM

I recommend

to your friend.

I'm betting it's a lot more in keeping with his tone-goal.

GreenTelecaster · October 24th, 2009, 11:59 PM

I have one of the older 8.4k models. Sweet.

SirJackdeFuzz · October 28th, 2009, 03:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doug 54

G&L

???

SirJackdeFuzz · October 28th, 2009, 03:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cherrick

I recommend

to your friend.

I'm betting it's a lot more in keeping with his tone-goal.

Very nice spray job for an 80's vibe guitar

Not an 80's pointy-point shread stick fan, but this one atleast looks good - colour wise

SirJackdeFuzz · October 28th, 2009, 04:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ricky D.

4-way wiring gives you a combined (series) selection in addition to the traditional options.

In series, the output voltages of the two pickups are added together. So, your guitar's output will be approximately doubled in that switch position. The tone is a little fatter in that position than it is in the combined-parallel position.

If your friend turns up his amp far enough, can he get overdrive with his current pickups? If so, hotter pickups won't do much of anything for him except a slightly better S/N ratio, IMO.

I have the Don Mare Supersport bridge - Stelly neck set. Absolutely beautiful sounding set, a little less bright than my Fender OV set.

Thank you very much for the info

October 21st, 2009, 12:32 PM	#1 (permalink)
SirJackdeFuzz Tele-Meister Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: P.E. South Africa Age: 36 Posts: 369	HOT, Tele-sounding twangy pu's ? Tele people . . . . . . i am saking this question for someone else (non forum member). He is looking for Hot tele pu's to drive his amps a little more, but must deff retain that distinctive Tele twang. He played someone elses Tele w SD Cool Rails, and was NOT impressed vintage Princeton & newer Pro Jr. Thanx folks __________________ Guitar -->Fuzz -->OD -->Trem -->Delay -->'66Bassman.

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caliban335 Tele-Meister Join Date: May 2007 Location: Cleveland, Ohio Age: 55 Posts: 402	Lollar Special T in the bridge and Lollar Charlie Christian in the neck. They will rock and twang with the best of them. I promise. __________________ Jemima surrender. That's all ya hafta do. I'll bring over my Fender & I'll play all night fer you. Last edited by caliban335; October 21st, 2009 at 05:00 PM.

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bo Friend of Leo's Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 2,276	Yes, either use a box or go older school and just turn up ;) __________________ www.bourbondynasty.com

October 21st, 2009, 07:00 PM	#9 (permalink)
bradpdx Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Portland, OR Age: 51 Posts: 1,122 3 Photos	Hotter passive pickups -> more windings -> less twang, more mud. The only other way to get more passive output is to use very powerful magnets, but then you have additional tradeoffs. Preamps are the best overall answer. They can be stompboxes (including some of the stompbox EQ units out there) or can be "built-in" to the pickups like EMGs. EMGs are actually a great example of the type of high-output/high-fidelity sound that active PUPs can achieve. They are perhaps a good choice, and quiet to boot. __________________ ---------- Tech Geek and Sensitive Artiste String bender ordinare!

October 23rd, 2009, 01:16 AM	#11 (permalink)
Tony Reid TDPRI Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Australia Age: 57 Posts: 94	Hot and Twangful Don Mare's Super Sport tele bridge pickup is designed exactly for this purpose. Check it out: http://www.buckcannon.com/pickupsfortele.html Fifth one down. There is a short (very short) sound clip. My experience is that it sounds fatter and has a lot more snarl in the mids than you can hear on this clip. Great tones and harmonics when you drive a tube amp hard!

October 21st, 2009, 03:14 PM	#2 (permalink)
therhodeo Tele-Meister Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Stillwater OK Posts: 117	Aren't Bardens hotter than normal tele pickups?

October 21st, 2009, 03:32 PM	#4 (permalink)
macaroonie TDPRI Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: glasgow scotland Age: 55 Posts: 21	NO Affiliation. Check these out ... bridge dirty sound clip is good and twangy. I plan to use this on my build.. http://www.axetec.co.uk/axetec%20gui...ickups_103.htm

October 21st, 2009, 05:08 PM	#6 (permalink)
dconeill Tele-Meister Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: arlington, virginia, usa Posts: 198	C'mon now, we all should have learned this by now. It's a zero-sum game. If you depart from vintage specs, you depart from vintage sound. If you want "hot" output, the pickup is not going to sound the same as one with "vintage" output. It might sound good, it might even sound better to you, it might not sound different by much, but it will sound different from a vintage-spec pickup. Maybe the OP's friend should get a Tele he/she likes the sound of, then use some sort of booster to increase the gain - a Barber Launch Pad, a T-Rex (was Jauernig) Luxury Drive, or something similar.

October 23rd, 2009, 02:54 AM	#12 (permalink)
Hack TDPRI Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Lancaster, CA Posts: 31	SD broadcaster. Does the job. twangs and rocks.

October 23rd, 2009, 04:52 AM	#13 (permalink)
smokerjoe34 Tele-Meister Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Enid,Oklahoma Posts: 253	Texas Specials.......................................... ...........................................

October 23rd, 2009, 08:07 AM	#14 (permalink)
DarnWeight TDPRI Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Norfolk, UK Posts: 60	Tonerider Hot Classics. Cheap, too.

October 23rd, 2009, 08:51 PM	#15 (permalink)
RomanS Friend of Leo's Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Vienna, Austria Age: 37 Posts: 4,119 22 Photos	LeoSounds MudCats from www.leosounds.de are higher output pickups that are also twangy. __________________ http://www.myspace.com/romans212 http://www.myspace.com/theneatpickers http://www.thomassoulriverband.com/

October 24th, 2009, 12:30 AM	#16 (permalink)
mwaym Tele-Meister Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: anderson, indiana Age: 45 Posts: 260	My texas specials do it all !!

October 24th, 2009, 05:09 AM	#19 (permalink)
scoots Tele-Holic Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: hinckley,mn Posts: 551	i've found that the scns are very volume knob sensitive. roll back for a more full even sound and open it up for a bite. been playing out alot lately and i like how these sound with some volume behind them. very clear. the neck pup(which is my fav) is kind of strat-ish and i can get a nice punchy twang out of the bridge. they sound good combined and they take pedals well. versatile too. bill lawrence pups __________________ ...took the tube out of the v1 spot and replaced it with a dilithium crystal (like on star trek)...

October 24th, 2009, 09:27 PM	#22 (permalink)
Doug 54 Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ohio, Dayton area Posts: 1,308	G&L __________________ "Cowboys to Girls"

October 24th, 2009, 11:28 PM	#23 (permalink)
Ormond Tele-Holic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: san bernardino Age: 59 Posts: 571	Amazingly, the brige PU on the CV is a total butt-kicker. I use the stock CV for bite and pure twang, not my Amer. Std.....and my American Tele has a Lindy Fralin on it! (Fralin for more depth).

October 24th, 2009, 11:52 PM	#24 (permalink)
cherrick TDPRI Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Austin, TX Age: 64 Posts: 22	I recommend to your friend. I'm betting it's a lot more in keeping with his tone-goal.

October 24th, 2009, 11:59 PM	#25 (permalink)
GreenTelecaster NEW MEMBER! Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 1	Count me in on the SD Broadcaster as well. I have one of the older 8.4k models. Sweet.

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