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Old December 12th, 2008, 09:08 PM   #41 (permalink)
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Thank you Boris.

Would the Am Se neck pu be a good match with either the OV bridge or the Nocater bridge pus? Not just in terms of level but do they give a nice mid position?
I have not tried any of those mixes. I promise, if Fender sold the No-Caster or Original Vintage bridge pickups alone for a fair price, there'd be a dozen recommnendations for either combination - but they do not break sets up.

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Old December 13th, 2008, 12:13 AM   #42 (permalink)
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I put a set of CS nocasters in this parts caster and they were well worth the $120.00 bux I paid for them. Great usable sounds in all three switch positions.
They sound a bit different to my '60s Tele - not better or worse just different. Love em both.
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Old December 14th, 2008, 10:28 AM   #43 (permalink)
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Not much to add here other than my feeling that my Nocaster is just pure sonic bliss EVERY time I touch it. Does anybody know if Abigail winds them or does she only do the big $ guitar p/u's??
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Old December 14th, 2008, 12:03 PM   #44 (permalink)
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IMO, you can't beat the sound of a set of NoCasters. I had a set installed in my MIA Am
Se Nat. Ash Tele. I had all but given up on this guitar, but I played a CS NoCaster guitar in a shop and just loved the tone. Found a set of p-ups on 'Bay and had them installed. Now she's my #1 Player! A set of p-ups CAN make a huge difference!

If you really like your guitar otherwise, changing out the p-ups can/will make a big difference; and the good thing is, it's reversable! If you don't like them, change them again!

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Old December 14th, 2008, 12:38 PM   #45 (permalink)
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I put the '51 Nocaster bridge in my '69 Tele Thinline reissue and it is big and twangy, exactly the sound that I was looking for. I don't feel that it is too bright, it growls just right.

I put a '68 Custom Shop in the neck and it is a very well rounded evenly toned pup and a great compliment to the Nocaster.
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Old January 26th, 2009, 06:31 PM   #46 (permalink)
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I ordered Nocasters from "justpickups.com" about 2 weeks ago for $100.00. I got an email saying I'd have them in 5 days. It seems like a good deal but I haven't received them yet, I can't get them to reply to me by email or phone either. I'm wishing I would've just paid more and gotten them locally now because my project is on hold and I can't get any info from the sellers.
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Old January 27th, 2009, 02:38 PM   #47 (permalink)
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Have a neck installed in my MIM Standard. Really like the clarity and improved dynamics over the revoiced neck. The bridge p/u was bad from the start and am waiting on a replacement. Seems the CS is back ordered and I'll be waiting a few weeks for the replacement.
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Old January 27th, 2009, 07:07 PM   #48 (permalink)
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My Baja has Broadcaster in the bridge position - if anyone has tried the nocaster PU and broadcaster - how do they differ and are they pretty similar?

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I can't answer your question about how they differ - I just can't think of a wordy way to do that.

But you have my solemn word, they do sound different. Broadcaster is hotter, if you will to match up properly with the Twisted Tele neck pickup. Yet, very strange the way the "parallel-out of phase" (Position Two, s-1 down) seems more forceful that the "series-out of phase".

Here's the best I can do. The No-caster is more of a vintage sound - but the Baja is not so much "rock and roll" as it is forceful, acoustic sound. The kind of guitar that still sounds great on a Bassman when others sound muffled. For what it is worth on a No-Castered guitar I am on the bridge pup in one way or another, all the time, but on the Baja I am seldom in position 1 (bridge only).

Aw, heck! Trying to say, I would never use a Broadcaster as an Esquire pickup. But, it has some special characteristic where, when combined with the Twisted Tele, it creates lots of cool sounds you will not find when a No-caster was stuck in its place.
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Old January 27th, 2009, 07:22 PM   #49 (permalink)
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Thank you Boris.

Would the Am Se neck pu be a good match with either the OV bridge or the Nocater bridge pus? Not just in terms of level but do they give a nice mid position?
I am intending to do that; to mate an Am Se neck pickup with a left handed OV bridge pickup/bridge combo. I am optimistic this, or a No-Caster bridge pup, will work great. I'll let you know what happens.
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Old January 27th, 2009, 10:29 PM   #50 (permalink)
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Wow, this thread is up again? I'm the OP. I just got the CV Tele I mentioned in the first post. I was considering dropping a pair of Nocasters in, but the stock CV pickups are actually pretty nice. Nocaster nice? Well, maybe not, but certainly good enough for now. I played a CS '51 Nocaster Relic in a local shop & everything about felt & sounded great. I played it through a Blues Jr (cause thats what I own) even though there were some really cool vintage amps. I was in love with the tone, although I'm sure it had a lot to do with the actual guitar as well.
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Old January 28th, 2009, 06:03 AM   #51 (permalink)
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Yeah, report back if you try it please Boris.

And thanks for the report about Twisted + Broadcaster, sounds very interesting. I don't have any of those pups but from your description it is a sound I'd love.
I could make nice sonograms out of the pickups alone, in parallel and par/out of phase to see what's happening exactly (if you could make a sample of each, same chord in each position, same force, etc.)
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I have a set of pickups taken out of a Custom Shop Nocaster Relic. The pickups are aged, unlike the after-market ones you can buy at retail. I notice the DCR readings of the neck and the bridge are 7.06k. Well below the high-7 readings spec'd in the after-market retail version.

Are the aged ones in the Custom Shop Nocaster Relics different pickups than the aftermarket CS '51 Nocaster pups? And does anyone know if the magnet is also degaussed on the OEM Aged version?
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Old February 27th, 2009, 11:55 PM   #53 (permalink)
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Well NeverStock, Im not exactly sure.

I will offer this though

Consider that all wire has tolerances, changes in overall diameter, bare wire diameter etc...

So they probably wind by number of turns - sometimes that will get you more or less than what you want.

OR

They are trying to hit a certain inductance rather than just DCR. with wire size differences, inductance to DCR ratio changes.

Its over ambitious for them to think they can get the same DCR and Henries every single time, if you ask me. JUst because of wire size tolerances.

I wound a Tele neck pickup to 7.6k ohms recently, and it had 2.45 Henries. It was very bright and clear.

I looked at another pickup I wound, with the same size magnets, same alnico type, same bobbin dimensions, and the same spool of wire, and it was 7.3k ohms, and 2.6 henries. It was a good bit darker sounding...


Id probably have to unwind that one to 7k or less to get the similar brightness of the first pickup I mentioned...

If they sound awesome, play em! Specs arent as important as your ears being happy...
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Old March 3rd, 2009, 10:14 PM   #54 (permalink)
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$99 bucks? Almost seems to good to be true - anyone else buy from them?

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My friends at "Just Pickups" have them NEW for $98.99. I have used them several times, and they have outstanding service, etc. Great people - you should get to know them!
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Old March 3rd, 2009, 11:28 PM   #55 (permalink)
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Old March 5th, 2009, 04:57 PM   #56 (permalink)
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I have a set of pickups taken out of a Custom Shop Nocaster Relic. The pickups are aged, unlike the after-market ones you can buy at retail. I notice the DCR readings of the neck and the bridge are 7.06k. Well below the high-7 readings spec'd in the after-market retail version.

Are the aged ones in the Custom Shop Nocaster Relics different pickups than the aftermarket CS '51 Nocaster pups? And does anyone know if the magnet is also degaussed on the OEM Aged version?
The answer is yes and the difference in sound is audible between a relic and NOS Nocaster.
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Old March 6th, 2009, 12:09 AM   #57 (permalink)
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Let me ask this, I find the stock CV pups to be a bit thin. Will CS '51s add a little bottom end? I'm basically looking for a "fatter" tone. I know that there are a billion other pickups out there, but I'm asking specifically about these...
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Old March 12th, 2009, 11:35 AM   #58 (permalink)
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Do the '51 Nocaster pickups measure up to similar boutique offerings from Lollar, Stuart, Hamel, etc.? Why/how?
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God forgive me, but Im not a fan of the 1950s Telecasters. The Youtube link above explains it all. The Flat pole piece bridge pup has a very different sound than the
1960s Teles. The CS 'Vintage Noiseless' and CS 'Texas Specials' pups, have that Burton, Rich, Cropper and Bob Wootton sound that drives me.

The sounds of these Teles from both decades are two different bottles of Bourbon. Obviously the Teles of the Early 1950s wasn't based on Rock-N Roll as Rock-N Roll had not really broke out on the National sceen till 1955-56. Early 50s was still Pat Boone Pop and Jazz and old primative Country..certainly not the Honky Tonk type that would emerge later in the decade. These early 50s Teles sound like they were made just for that..Bluesy Jazz style music.
Hmmm. I don't agree with this at all. Firstly Burton's Telecaster he used on all those great 60s recordings was a '53. Secondly, early on Don Rich used a 50s Telecaster as well and I've seen clips of him playing that in into the mid 60s.
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Here is why I ask. Are they worth the price tag? Specifically, is it worth puting a $150 pair of pups in, lets say, a $300 Tele like a CV or something? How do you like yours & what guitar (if other than an actual Nocaster) are you using them in? Thanks!
Go for it! If you really DIG how your $300- Tele is playing, then I would upgrade and instal those pups. It will be a 100% improvement, even though your tele is not top-notch. There is really no way to know how they will sound in your tele. You just have to try and go for it. Those are great pickups.
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Not much to add here other than my feeling that my Nocaster is just pure sonic bliss EVERY time I touch it. Does anybody know if Abigail winds them or does she only do the big $ guitar p/u's??
I'm wondering the same thing...anyone know?
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I'm wondering the same thing...anyone know?
Doesn't she sign all her pickups? and I thought she does Strat PUPs.
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I got a pair of nocasters in a butterscotch infinity body (yes the body comes from a 150.00 guitar) with an allparts fat maple neck. It sound really really great! The best sounding tele i have!

My Uncle Rob (Fret Tech) liked the sound so much that once he asked if he could keep it for himself! He keep it for a few months but finally gave it back to me. LOL
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Nocasters in the Muddy-caster

I bought a set of Nocaster picukps from another forum member and installed them in my tele. Very nice.
For those who keep track of this sort of thing, they measure 7.50 kohm (bridge), 7.32 kohm (neck) on my Fluke.

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The best sounding pickups Ive tried were in a Nocaster. Instead of just buying them, I asked a pickup winder to make me a set that would rival Nocasters and the response I got was that Nocasters weren't anything special, well turns out after trying several different pickup sets I ended up getting some Fred Stuart Blackguards and to me they sound as good as the Nocasters that I first heard and fell in love with. Actually the neck sounds better than the Nocaster I tried. So IMO Nocasters are as good as, if not better than the best boutique PUPS you can buy. And crikey they aren't expensive at all, IIRC around $139 is the going price.

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kingofdogs1950: can you read inductance of your pickups?


How the Nocaster neck pup compares to the Twisted neck pup?

And to the Original Vintage?
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Fernando,

Never tried a Twisted neck pickup. I used to have an OV set. I found the neck pick too dark for my taste but the bridge pu was very nice. The Nocaster neck pu is brighter and 'cleaner' than the OV. Lots of folks seem to like the neck OV but that was the reason I sold the set. Lots of folks also like the Nocaster neck pickup.
My meter doesn't measure inductance. I would like to have an inductance meter but can't justify a separate meter just to check pickups.

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I ordered Nocasters from "justpickups.com" about 2 weeks ago for $100.00. I got an email saying I'd have them in 5 days. It seems like a good deal but I haven't received them yet, I can't get them to reply to me by email or phone either. I'm wishing I would've just paid more and gotten them locally now because my project is on hold and I can't get any info from the sellers.
Did they arrive yet? I'm curious because I'm considering ordering a set from them this week.
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I private messaged him. He said he canceled the order. Has anyone tried these pickups with distortion? Do you think they sound good with distortion for a classic rock sound? I would try but I'm still waiting to put my set in. My neighbor who knows how to install them in has been on vacation for the past 7 months. Only 5 more to go...
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They rock pretty good distorted ! (for single coils) I have a p/p switch to go in series.

I don't have a 4-way switch because I wired mine with a 3 way and the 'ol Nocaster style (blend pot) to "keep it real" as they say.
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Sure, they sound great with overdrive or distortion.

Classic rock tone? Well, they're not humbuckers in a Les Paul, so if that's what you're looking for, it's probably not going to happen.

But they crunch and sing beautifully with OD.
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So I ordered a set of Nocasters from Justpickups.com. I then got an email stating that not only do NOT have them in stock, but when they do get them they will no longer be able to offer them at that price ($104 shipped). Talk about the classic bait 'n switch. So I cancelled the order & picked up a set on ebay for about $16 more. Still a pretty fair price. I'm waiting for them to arrive. Should be here in a day or so.

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Do not order these from Justpickups.com! You will not recieve them at the advertised price!
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Sure, they sound great with overdrive or distortion.

Classic rock tone? Well, they're not humbuckers in a Les Paul, so if that's what you're looking for, it's probably not going to happen.

But they crunch and sing beautifully with OD.
Thats perfect. I just wanted to know if I could play ZZ top songs with them.
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can anyone detail the differences between the nocaster and OV neck pickups? i have the OV and think it sounds great, but the bass response is a little strange; very soft and rounded, almost to the point where it sounds weak. is the nocaster the same, or does the nickel-silver cover improve the clarity?
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The nickel silver cover is said to improve clarity.
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can anyone detail the differences between the nocaster and OV neck pickups? i have the OV and think it sounds great, but the bass response is a little strange; very soft and rounded, almost to the point where it sounds weak. is the nocaster the same, or does the nickel-silver cover improve the clarity?
Supposedly it does. Fender developed it to lighten up what they felt was an inherently dark neck pickup; due to its brass cover. My guess has always been that it is the same reason its used on the Noiseless pickups. Stacked coils act like HBs, which are also naturally dark/warm. The Nickel Silver cover compensates for that to give them a more "Traditional Tele Tone". Like I said, I have a pair on the way & this will be my first venture, not only into Nocaster territory, but into the "Custom Shop" world. I'm pumped. I will certainly report back as to my findings. Cause so many people here are waiting on pins & needles for my opinions .
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I bought a set of Nocaster picukps from another forum member and installed them in my tele. Very nice.
For those who keep track of this sort of thing, they measure 7.50 kohm (bridge), 7.32 kohm (neck) on my Fluke.

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BTW, man...that Tele is absolutely gorgeous. I usually don't dig 'amp knobs' on Teles, or even go for red guitars...but, that whole thing just works. Good on ya'! Wow!
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Muddy-caster...

Thanks for the complement on the Muddy-caster. It looks good in person too.
The pickguard is parchment, not white, but unless you have it side by side with a white pickguard you would guess it to be white.
The knobs are from Allen Amps. I figured that on a Muddy Waters body it was ok to use amp knobs. I don't usually go in for strange/different parts but the Allen knobs just work for me. I just installed some Bourns pots that turn very easily. You can't tell in the picture but the knobs are 'knurled" on the side for easy finger roll action. BTW, function wise, the Bourns don't seem any different from other pots I've used, Alpha and CTS. I never seem to have trouble with pots...
Back to the Nocaster thread... I love them. They are easy to dial in and can get good tone over a range of pickup height, not just a one exact height.
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I've got a Baja and a CS Nocaster. I love both sets of pickups...the Baja is versatile & workmanlike to me with a great neck pickup. The Nocaster pickups are great...not sure how to describe them but they are better than the Baja and just right...nice tone.

I'm thinking of getting "one more" tele but I'm not sure whether to get a set of Nocasters or something different though. I'm not a humbucker fan and don't play country which will limit my options a bit.
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