lace hot gold vs fender lace sensor

fakeplastic · May 21st, 2008, 03:34 PM

anyone here any experience with the lace hot gold pickups? It seems to get really good reviews on the net, but I was wondering how they differ from the older fender lace sensors (gold, silver, blue, red) pickups, I've tried all of those. Is the hot gold pretty much a 'hotter' version of the older gold model?

scooteraz · May 21st, 2008, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by fakeplastic

anyone here any experience with the lace hot gold pickups? It seems to get really good reviews on the net, but I was wondering how they differ from the older fender lace sensors (gold, silver, blue, red) pickups, I've tried all of those. Is the hot gold pretty much a 'hotter' version of the older gold model?

I have a set of hot golds in a partscaster strat. Essentially they are hotter versions of the old Lace sesnsor gold. However, they seem more than just an overwound gold, they somehow sound both fuller and more strat like thant the golds did. I actually like them a lot in that partscaster guitar. Quiet, and good "stratty" sounds without being a clone of any vintage pickup; but with some power as well. Decent quack in the combined positions.

So, if you are looking for an identifiable strat sound, but do not necessarily have to have the "1957" or the "1963" sounds, these may be for you. However, if you just have to have that absolutely vintage sound, then you need to look elsewhere.

Wardpike · May 22nd, 2008, 12:03 PM

overwinding any pickup will make it both hotter n output and fuller in sound.

tazzboy · May 22nd, 2008, 03:31 PM

Are there any sound clips with Hot Golds? I ask Lace while back they said they are planning on putting a Youtube clip soon.

JayBee · May 22nd, 2008, 04:25 PM

Hot golds are slightly hotter and fuller sounding than standard golds, but not ovepoweringly so.
When I was reworking a Hohner Strat copy with a maple body I searched the various guitar forums for pickup advice. Mark Mitchell (smark on the fender forum and the in house Strat pickup guru) suggested that Hot Golds sounded good with any body / neck wood combination and posted sound clips.
Don Mare who worked for Lace at the time suggested a standard Gold in the middle position for extra "quack". So I reassembled the guitar with Hots in the bridge and neck and Gold in the middle.
OK, but bridge sounded a bit harsh, so put a Lace silver (hotter and less top end response). These pickups balanced well for my ears, in this guitar and are not set to be swapped out = very good (and I am fussy!).
So two spare Hots, one now in neck of 3 pickup Tele and again is staying in (mighty mite ceramic middle (really!) Kent Armstrong bridge). The last of the 3 I bought is earmarked for another project, again in the neck position of a partscaster 12 string.
So, in summary I like them in the neck positions of two guitars I own and play, but they work for other people elsewhere.
In case you think I have limited my pickup choice to Lace products, I have guitars with Seymour Duncan, Voodoo, Keystone and O.C. Duff pickups, they all have their place.

Hope this helps. PM me if further advice / experiences required.

JayBee

scooteraz · May 22nd, 2008, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Wardpike

overwinding any pickup will make it both hotter n output and fuller in sound.

Guess my description was not really great. Yes they are fuller. Yes they are hotter. But, somehow, to my ear they do not loose the high end that great strat pickups have that so often gets lost in overwinding. That was the basis of my "more strat like" comment vs. the regular Lace Sensor Golds.

Highs still sparkle, without harshness. More mid information like you would expect with a strat single coil. Hope that helps.

fakeplastic · May 22nd, 2008, 08:38 PM

any thoughts on the 13k bridge hot gold? its a bit hotter, but does it still sound ok when played clean?

tazzboy · May 22nd, 2008, 10:15 PM

Here I was hoping for some sound clips myself.

DavidP · May 23rd, 2008, 01:22 AM

and they sound a lot better than the stock golds--improved body and quack IMHO. I think I'll try a regular gold in the middle as suggested above.

porto leone · May 24th, 2008, 03:07 AM

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Originally Posted by scooteraz

Guess my description was not really great. Yes they are fuller. Yes they are hotter. But, somehow, to my ear they do not loose the high end that great strat pickups have that so often gets lost in overwinding. That was the basis of my "more strat like" comment vs. the regular Lace Sensor Golds.

Highs still sparkle, without harshness. More mid information like you would expect with a strat single coil. Hope that helps.

++1 on THIS description

May 21st, 2008, 03:34 PM	#1 (permalink)
fakeplastic TDPRI Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: teleland Posts: 62	lace hot gold vs fender lace sensor anyone here any experience with the lace hot gold pickups? It seems to get really good reviews on the net, but I was wondering how they differ from the older fender lace sensors (gold, silver, blue, red) pickups, I've tried all of those. Is the hot gold pretty much a 'hotter' version of the older gold model?

May 22nd, 2008, 03:31 PM	#4 (permalink)
tazzboy Friend of Leo's Join Date: May 2005 Location: Eugene, Oregon Age: 31 Posts: 2,533	Are there any sound clips with Hot Golds? I ask Lace while back they said they are planning on putting a Youtube clip soon. __________________ tazzboy Guitar: 1982 Gibson Les Paul Standard AMP: 59 Bassman Reissue. EFFECTS: 2 Boss TR-2 Tremolo, Boss CE-2 Chorus, and Boss DM-3 Echo Delay.

May 22nd, 2008, 10:15 PM	#8 (permalink)
tazzboy Friend of Leo's Join Date: May 2005 Location: Eugene, Oregon Age: 31 Posts: 2,533	Here I was hoping for some sound clips myself. __________________ tazzboy Guitar: 1982 Gibson Les Paul Standard AMP: 59 Bassman Reissue. EFFECTS: 2 Boss TR-2 Tremolo, Boss CE-2 Chorus, and Boss DM-3 Echo Delay.

May 23rd, 2008, 01:22 AM	#9 (permalink)
DavidP Tele-Meister Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 475	Got a set in my EC strat... and they sound a lot better than the stock golds--improved body and quack IMHO. I think I'll try a regular gold in the middle as suggested above. __________________ too many guitars...

May 22nd, 2008, 12:03 PM	#3 (permalink)
Wardpike Tele-Holic Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: St. John's, Newfoundland Age: 43 Posts: 585	overwinding any pickup will make it both hotter n output and fuller in sound.

May 22nd, 2008, 04:25 PM	#5 (permalink)
JayBee TDPRI Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Taunton, Somerset, UK Posts: 98	Hot golds are slightly hotter and fuller sounding than standard golds, but not ovepoweringly so. When I was reworking a Hohner Strat copy with a maple body I searched the various guitar forums for pickup advice. Mark Mitchell (smark on the fender forum and the in house Strat pickup guru) suggested that Hot Golds sounded good with any body / neck wood combination and posted sound clips. Don Mare who worked for Lace at the time suggested a standard Gold in the middle position for extra "quack". So I reassembled the guitar with Hots in the bridge and neck and Gold in the middle. OK, but bridge sounded a bit harsh, so put a Lace silver (hotter and less top end response). These pickups balanced well for my ears, in this guitar and are not set to be swapped out = very good (and I am fussy!). So two spare Hots, one now in neck of 3 pickup Tele and again is staying in (mighty mite ceramic middle (really!) Kent Armstrong bridge). The last of the 3 I bought is earmarked for another project, again in the neck position of a partscaster 12 string. So, in summary I like them in the neck positions of two guitars I own and play, but they work for other people elsewhere. In case you think I have limited my pickup choice to Lace products, I have guitars with Seymour Duncan, Voodoo, Keystone and O.C. Duff pickups, they all have their place. Hope this helps. PM me if further advice / experiences required. JayBee

May 22nd, 2008, 08:38 PM	#7 (permalink)
fakeplastic TDPRI Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: teleland Posts: 62	any thoughts on the 13k bridge hot gold? its a bit hotter, but does it still sound ok when played clean?