Jazzmaster Voicing in a Tele Bridge PU

blacklove · May 8th, 2008, 08:58 PM

Maybe I'm being a little silly, but can anyone point me in the direction of a Jazzmaster bridge sound in a Tele bridge pickup? I have a Bigsby-equipped Tele with a maple fretboard that currently has Texas Specials (for sale in classified, by the way). I'm gassing for a Jazzmaster, but this might save me, oh, $1500 or so...

Here's a sound sample from the Seymour Duncan website:

http://files.seymourduncan.com/audio...er/Track49.mp3

I just really like the tone of that nice chunky but snappy low end.

Nub · May 8th, 2008, 09:07 PM

Hard to tell by that clip, since you don't know what they were using for dirt, but...

Pete Biltoft makes fantastic Tele-sized P90's, and he'll wind 'em to sound however you want; they're my favorite Tele pups, by far. Great prices, service, and workmanship... Pete's the man.

www.vintagevibeguitars.com

Al Nico · May 8th, 2008, 09:56 PM

What kind of Bigsby setup? With the Tele-sized and angled pup slot, you're kinda screwed if you want to get that JM sound. It's all about the coil width and angle. Something with alnico slugs and a wider magnetic field might get you close, like a GFS 10K Fatbody (I have that, and it's got a more even sound with bigger chunkier bass).

If you can manage fitting a humbucker-slot tele bridge, then I agree Peter Biltoft is your guys. He can make anything you want. His alnico-pole HB-sized P-90s are the schizzle.

blacklove · May 9th, 2008, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Al Nico

What kind of Bigsby setup? With the Tele-sized and angled pup slot, you're kinda screwed if you want to get that JM sound. It's all about the coil width and angle. Something with alnico slugs and a wider magnetic field might get you close, like a GFS 10K Fatbody (I have that, and it's got a more even sound with bigger chunkier bass).

If you can manage fitting a humbucker-slot tele bridge, then I agree Peter Biltoft is your guys. He can make anything you want. His alnico-pole HB-sized P-90s are the schizzle.

Here's a picture.

It's been my mod platform for a while. The GFS minihumbucker in the neck position didn't sound good to me. It's got a swimming-pool rout under the pickguard. I wouldn't be averse to routing a non-angled bridge pickup cavity in there! More cool mods to make!

If Texas Specials are a good example of high-output, overwound tone, then I am NOT fond of that tone. It's just too strained to my ears.

I'm planning on repainting the thing to Sonic Blue this summer and getting a 60's style neck with a rosewood board.

RomanS · May 10th, 2008, 04:00 PM

Well, since you plan on doing some refinishing, and are not averse to routing, why don't you go for a "real" Jazzmaster pickup? You'd have to lose the plate from the Bigsby kit, though, which shouldn't be a problem.

igorBG · May 11th, 2008, 07:34 AM

If you like Jazzmaster sound try puting 1Meg pots in Tele. That is value that Jazzmasters have in main circuit.
I am not sure will that work with Tele pickups, someone alse will probably comment this, but I am sure that you can put at least 500k pots. You should have 250k pots right now.
If you ask me, diff in pots value it is the main difference between these two guitars (I have both and that was my first impression) since you have Bigsby already, which is similar to Jazzmaster tremolo design.

May 8th, 2008, 08:58 PM	#1 (permalink)
blacklove Tele-Meister Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Small Pond Posts: 378 6 Photos	Jazzmaster Voicing in a Tele Bridge PU Maybe I'm being a little silly, but can anyone point me in the direction of a Jazzmaster bridge sound in a Tele bridge pickup? I have a Bigsby-equipped Tele with a maple fretboard that currently has Texas Specials (for sale in classified, by the way). I'm gassing for a Jazzmaster, but this might save me, oh, $1500 or so... Here's a sound sample from the Seymour Duncan website: http://files.seymourduncan.com/audio...er/Track49.mp3 I just really like the tone of that nice chunky but snappy low end.

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RomanS Friend of Leo's Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Vienna, Austria Age: 36 Posts: 2,570 14 Photos	Well, since you plan on doing some refinishing, and are not averse to routing, why don't you go for a "real" Jazzmaster pickup? You'd have to lose the plate from the Bigsby kit, though, which shouldn't be a problem. __________________ http://www.pbase.com/romans http://www.myspace.com/romans212

May 8th, 2008, 09:07 PM	#2 (permalink)
Nub Tele-Holic Join Date: May 2003 Location: SoCal Posts: 763	Hard to tell by that clip, since you don't know what they were using for dirt, but... Pete Biltoft makes fantastic Tele-sized P90's, and he'll wind 'em to sound however you want; they're my favorite Tele pups, by far. Great prices, service, and workmanship... Pete's the man. www.vintagevibeguitars.com

May 8th, 2008, 09:56 PM	#3 (permalink)
Al Nico Tele-Meister Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 267 5 Photos	What kind of Bigsby setup? With the Tele-sized and angled pup slot, you're kinda screwed if you want to get that JM sound. It's all about the coil width and angle. Something with alnico slugs and a wider magnetic field might get you close, like a GFS 10K Fatbody (I have that, and it's got a more even sound with bigger chunkier bass). If you can manage fitting a humbucker-slot tele bridge, then I agree Peter Biltoft is your guys. He can make anything you want. His alnico-pole HB-sized P-90s are the schizzle.

May 11th, 2008, 07:34 AM	#6 (permalink)
igorBG Tele-Meister Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Belgrade, Serbia Age: 30 Posts: 392 9 Photos	If you like Jazzmaster sound try puting 1Meg pots in Tele. That is value that Jazzmasters have in main circuit. I am not sure will that work with Tele pickups, someone alse will probably comment this, but I am sure that you can put at least 500k pots. You should have 250k pots right now. If you ask me, diff in pots value it is the main difference between these two guitars (I have both and that was my first impression) since you have Bigsby already, which is similar to Jazzmaster tremolo design.