I put in a set of EMG-T's tonite

[BrianF]

I put the EMG's in tonite...they're cool! dead quiet and good tone.

I like the bridge and middle position. I normally wire the 3rd position as neck in series with bridge (for a hum-bucler like tone) but I guess you can't do that with these active piclups...Not too crazy about the neck only position. I may have swap that out for an EMG humbucker for a fatter neck tone position...any siggestions?

I tried EMG's tonite with a Keeley compressor and was surprised that it made it REAL noisy! Same with the MXR Super Comp...I have no idea why... However...my TC ELectrinics Sustain pedal seems to LOVE it...sounds great with it and DEAD quiet...

The main difference is that these EMGs are active and the pot values are low...25K Ohm... that must be doing something to the noise response of the Keeley which otherwise sounds fantastic with normal single coils..

[maestrovert]

Originally Posted by BrianF

I put the EMG's in tonite...they're cool! dead quiet and good tone.
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I tried EMG's tonite with a Keeley compressor and was surprised that it made it REAL noisy! Same with the MXR Super Comp...I have no idea why...

i highly doubt the noise you experienced is due to the EMG T P-ups...
Comps tend to accentuate any noise(s) in the signal chain, it's a pretty well known phenomenon.....however, same as you, i have found comps to add their own noise, which is why i don't use 'em ('cept at times -rarely- i will add very subtle "studio" compression when recording)....

[BrianF]

Originally Posted by maestrovert

i highly doubt the noise you experienced is due to the EMG T P-ups...
Comps tend to accentuate any noise(s) in the signal chain, it's a pretty well known phenomenon.....however, same as you, i have found comps to add their own noise, which is why i don't use 'em ('cept at times -rarely- i will add very subtle "studio" compression when recording)....

Yes I belive that teh pickups are super clean. I'm an electronic engineer by trade so my 'wheels are turning' as to what causes the noise...compared to passive pickups plugged into the comp. One thought I have is that the Comps gain is naturally increased for small signals.... and if the EMGs are putting out SUCH as small signal when nothing is played...ie NO NOISE at all ....then the comp will max out it's internal gain and hence you hear it hiss... Theres a couple of experiemnts I can run...

[maestrovert]

Originally Posted by BrianF

One thought I have is that the Comps gain is naturally increased for small signals.... and if the EMGs are putting out SUCH as small signal when nothing is played...ie NO NOISE at all ....then the comp will max out it's internal gain and hence you hear it hiss... Theres a couple of experiemnts I can run...

i believe you're on to it.....the EMG's "noise floor" is so low, the comp would tend to max out....
please, update us as to your experiment(s) and findings, won't you ?

Thanx !

[BrianF]

Originally Posted by maestrovert

i believe you're on to it.....the EMG's "noise floor" is so low, the comp would tend to max out....
please, update us as to your experiment(s) and findings, won't you ?

Thanx !

HEE! Just waking up here on the West Coast (need more coffee)... I turned on my amp...plugged in cord...plugged it into the output of the comp...no noise .....plugged in a jack to the input of the comp...now I can hear the noise floor rising....(not too bad though for a low gain Fender amp).... ..pickup my Tele with EMGs and pluck a string...nothing...look down and notice it's not plugged in Then plug it in and notice the noise floor did not change at all!!! Play around on the Tele and notice that the sound is fine and that only when there is nothing being played do you hear the comp hiss....the EMG's are so low noise that the comp can't tell the difference bewteen it and an un-plugged in cable..

[lupowitz]

Originally Posted by BrianF

I put the EMG's in tonite...they're cool! dead quiet and good tone.

I like the bridge and middle position. I normally wire the 3rd position as neck in series with bridge (for a hum-bucler like tone) but I guess you can't do that with these active piclups...Not too crazy about the neck only position. I may have swap that out for an EMG humbucker for a fatter neck tone position...any siggestions?

I

Try the 60a. It is a mini-humbucker in a regular humbucker housing, but alnico magnets instead of the ceramics of the regular 60. It got very good reviews on HC, and it is the neck pu on the Schecter Hellraiser Tempest model, if your happened to bump into one in a guitarstore.
I really like the 85 too in the neck position, but it is an overkill in the bass dept. for some.

[BrianF]

The regular 60a humbucker body is kind of large...anyone tried this
p-90 version?
http://www.emginc.com/displayproduct...c atalogid=88

[Wardpike]

I find the EMG-Ts squawk a lot, especially in clean or semi-clean applications in country music. It's almost like a compressed sound that ten lets go about 25 microseconds after you hit a note, and then the note explodes and lets go all the compression as if...
It stores part of the sound, lets a little out, and then releases the rest like the dam just broke.

Anyone find this familiar?

[JohnS]

Not me. Attack seems normal.

[maestrovert]

Originally Posted by Wardpike

Anyone find this familiar?

Me neither....there's an immediacy to 'em, and no discernable compression....
an' no "squawk" either (unless i want 'em to !)

[JohnS]

Possibly something to do with your signal chain? I go straight in.

[BrianF]

The verdict? I like EMG's! I like the fact that they are clear sounding.

I did find that the neck only is not to my liking and that the Treble control is not as effective (you have to rotate it more than a normal Tele) and the bridge can be pretty bright on it's own.

I wanted a bit more fatness to it and am considering the EMG-SPC add-on control...but in the meantime I wired in a JFET clean booster into the control cavity and can activate it or bypass it with the flick of a small mini toggle between the Volume and Tone knobs...