SX STL50/62 Owners Club

[rolilohse]

Originally Posted by telecster

Rolilohse
What tuners did you use and did they cover the holes.
Were the mounting holes the correct size?

Some things seem to be different here in Europe .

First the SX Teles sold are different: Nearly correct headshape, vintage tuner, vintage bridge, no string through. So dropping in new tuner was a pice of cake, I only had to enlarge the holes from 8 mm to 8.5 mm.

Second the "Kluson" brand name is owned by Göldo (to my knowledge this is a Rockinger spin off). I read somewhere in this board that the "vintage double line tuners" are made by Gotoh - not a bad reference. Second plus is that these tuners are quite cheap.

Here the SX and the Kluson tuners are side by side. Quite close, aren't they?



Please have a look at the tuner shafts: The one at the SX tuners are much shorter than the Klusons, so tuning with the original tuners was not very easy as you nearly broke your fingers.

Cheers Roland

[telecster]

Very interesting. I wonder why there is a difference? Maybe a license (patent) issue!
Any one who installed new tuners any issues? Will the vintage cover up the holes from the SX tuners or will fender style tuners use the same holes. Any post size problems?

[Muddslide]

Originally Posted by littlewing6283

Whoa!

Love that, man. Can I ask what color and brand of gold you refinned that in?

Also, what you think of the GFS 60s Classic bridge pup?

[mtlmstbhevy]

Originally Posted by rolilohse

My SX arrived today! She really looks terrific - although sunburst was my second choice but the BSB looked like mustard on Ebay.

Pro:
- Fantastic Build at first look
- Good dry sound
- Fairly good sound from the bridge PU
- Tele style headstock
- "Custom Handmade"

Cons:
- Strings
- Neck PU
- Tuners

Considering the price it's a real hit

Now I am looking for good replacement PUs, this shall be a budget project, maybe I go for the Artec Alnico 5 PUs that are sold at Ebay. Any other suggestions?

Cheers Roland

where did you buy this model of a sx guitar? because the models are rondomusic dont look like this....

[littlewing6283]

Originally Posted by Muddslide

Whoa!

Love that, man. Can I ask what color and brand of gold you refinned that in?

Also, what you think of the GFS 60s Classic bridge pup?

thanks man

I just used home depot rattle can. Gold color. i think it was rustoleum brand.

I actually like the GFS 60's. Wound a little hot.

[rolilohse]

Originally Posted by mtlmstbhevy

where did you buy this model of a sx guitar? because the models are rondomusic dont look like this....

I bought this model not from rondomusic but from a belgian Ebay seller (I'm living in Germany):

SX Tele

Cheers Roland

[Adam S]

Originally Posted by rolilohse

I bought this model not from rondomusic but from a belgian Ebay seller (I'm living in Germany):

SX Tele

Cheers Roland

I just bought one for £59 from the same seller! Cant wait!

[grievousangel]

Originally Posted by Adam S

I just bought one for £59 from the same seller! Cant wait!

Me too!

[teleman55]

I got one of the left handed STL50 BSB ones when Rondo was selling them for $59 this spring. I put OVs in my main Tele a few years ago so the stock pickups were sitting around. Just put them in the SX last week and tried it at a gig last night just for about 4 songs. It sounds real nice. Now for a good setup...

[Steve G]

Originally Posted by rolilohse

I bought this model not from rondomusic but from a belgian Ebay seller (I'm living in Germany):

SX Tele

Cheers Roland

Me too too!
Ive been scouring for SXs available to the UK for ages, these guys in Belgium have just started selling them and for once we may be getting a better deal than in the US.
Theres even a vint bridge with a steel saddle for the low strings!!

[telecster]

What Tele neck (if any) would you compare the STL50 to.
Year, custom shop, signiture model?

[grievousangel]

Originally Posted by grievousangel

Me too!

I went for this one.

[teleman55]

Originally Posted by telecster

What Tele neck (if any) would you compare the STL50 to.
Year, custom shop, signiture model?

A baseball bat (lol)!
Seriously, it's a 13 radius C neck with semi-jumbo frets so it's big compared to a 7.25 radius V neck with vintage style frets. I got a CIJ 72 Custom RI with a C neck and this is bigger. It's a good neck though. Almost reminds me a little of an Ibanez I got.

[rolilohse]

grievousangel,

Originally Posted by grievousangel

I went for this one.

Please let me know if either this picture is that bad or the guitar looks like mustard in real . GAS is calling ...

Anybody tried the Strats?

Roland

[teleman55]

Mine's a little less yellow. Kinda like French's meets Dijon. Never tried the Strats but got an SX LP Special clone with a set neck and chinese P90s. All for about $120 US. It's got the big C neck too. It's my nasty open tune slide monster. Got an Agile electric 12 string too. It's da bomb. Quite well made, especially for the price. Won't make me ditch my Fenders but they're a nice addition. Might turn my SX Tele into a 5 string Keef one.

[Steve G]

Originally Posted by rolilohse

grievousangel,



Please let me know if either this picture is that bad or the guitar looks like mustard in real . GAS is calling ...

Anybody tried the Strats?

Roland

I have a blue strat with BL keystones. Love it

[olaftheholy]

I just now bought this one from ebay, (thanks Stev G. for the tip) cost me € 69,95 ($ 98,-)
It even has a proper headstock and i believe that there is grain showing thru the paint?

nice....








Love that mustardy color :o0


Guess i'm i n the club now too

[Jelle]

Picked up a STL/H last week and am amazed by it: with just a standard set-up it plays great, good fretwork, stock pups are ok and stays in tune very well. Ok, it's not as well finished as a $1000 guitar and the matching of the different pieces of wood could be better, but that doesn't affect playability or sound.

[olaftheholy]

Jelle,

did you buy this at ebay and if yes, how long was the wait for the guitar tos arrive/


cheers,Olaf


(mijne komt hopelijk snellllllllllllll!)

[Jelle]

Originally Posted by olaftheholy

did you buy this at ebay and if yes, how long was the wait for the guitar tos arrive/

Bought mine locally; cost a bit more than on ebay, but am happy I did because one of the neck screws was loose and could get no grip ('dol' for Dutchmen). Got a different one without question.

Hope yours arrives soon!

[telecster]

Originally Posted by teleman55

A baseball bat (lol)!
Seriously, it's a 13 radius C neck with semi-jumbo frets so it's big compared to a 7.25 radius V neck with vintage style frets. I got a CIJ 72 Custom RI with a C neck and this is bigger. It's a good neck though. Almost reminds me a little of an Ibanez I got.

Thanks. Hey I grew up in neck of the woods in Inverness. Have a Hackney burger for me!

[Steve G]

Originally Posted by olaftheholy

Jelle,

did you buy this at ebay and if yes, how long was the wait for the guitar tos arrive/


cheers,Olaf


(mijne komt hopelijk snellllllllllllll!)

Olaf, mine arrive right after you PM'd me.
Ordered it Friday so thats 2 working days to the UK!!

[teleman55]

Originally Posted by telecster

Thanks. Hey I grew up in neck of the woods in Inverness. Have a Hackney burger for me!

Hackney burgers are good.
Gotta get the onion loaf!
Wash it all down with some good beer.
Or a Green River if you don't drink.
That's a nice healthy Chicago style meal.

[telecster]

Yes the onion loaf. Have you ever been to Brandt's Little Cafe in Palatine? NW Hwy and Quentin Rd..Really good burgers as well.

[teleman55]

Never been there.
Charlie Beinlich's in Northbrook is another. Think it's still there, surrounded bu big buildings now. Haven't been there in years.

[Biz Prof]

I removed the orange tint on my STL50's neck, reshaped the headstock, and replaced the saddles and the nut. Future mods include replacement tuners, a pearloid guard, and set of Keystones.

[olaftheholy]

@ steve G. whoa! that freakin quick... this thing just might get in tommorow then... great!
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We in europe don't need to RESHAPE the steenkin headstock... it comes Fenderized!
Also we get proper vintage style 3barrel bridges (with a steel E/A saddle)
Al we needs to do is drill stringthrough and place ferrules.
And replace pots and switch...

neh neh neh neh neh!

[rolilohse]

Originally Posted by olaftheholy

We in europe don't need to RESHAPE the steenkin headstock... it comes Fenderized!
Also we get proper vintage style 3barrel bridges (with a steel E/A saddle)
Al we needs to do is drill stringthrough and place ferrules.
And replace pots and switch...

And we can use vintage Kluson tuners. Tuner holes are 8 mm and can be easily enlarged to 8.5 mm, the holes for the screws fit perfectly:



I ordered my tele direct from the seller (the thing ebay warned me for); it arrived within one week.

Next thing I will change are the pickups; I think I pull the trigger for Fender Nocasters. Any experience with them on a SX? I do not really know I it is sensible putting 100 € PUps on a 99 € guitar .

Cheers Roland

[olaftheholy]

Originally Posted by rolilohse

And we can use vintage Kluson tuners. Tuner holes are 8 mm and can be easily enlarged to 8.5 mm, the holes for the screws fit perfectly:



I ordered my tele direct from the seller (the thing ebay warned me for); it arrived within one week.

Next thing I will change are the pickups; I think I pull the trigger for Fender Nocasters. Any experience with them on a SX? I do not really know I it is sensible putting 100 € PUps on a 99 € guitar .

Cheers Roland

Check out www.axesrus.co.uk they have some great (and also cheap) pickups on offer.
The giovannis are good enough to deliver all the twang you need.
And if you must spend, try the tonerider pure vintage. have em in ESQ 0001 and they are the bomb!

[rolilohse]

Originally Posted by olaftheholy

Check out www.axesrus.co.uk they have some great (and also cheap) pickups on offer.
The giovannis are good enough to deliver all the twang you need.
And if you must spend, try the tonerider pure vintage. have em in ESQ 0001 and they are the bomb!

I thought about the tonerider, unfortunately they are sold out. I already burned 20 € for "Wilkinson lic." PUps, they not much better than the stock ones. They also have ceramic bar magnets glued to the bottom instead of rod magnets.

On the one side Giovanni PUps at axesrus will cost me appr. 70 € (with shipping), Toneriders cost 90 € here in Germany (sold at eBay).

On the other side I can get the Nocasters for 100 € at a local store - and from what I read here in the forum they have exactly the sound I am looking for: a brilliant, almost strat-like neck and a bridge PU that is just a little tiny bit on the warm side but still with lots of twang.

Cheers Roland

[olaftheholy]

Go for the nocasters, you can't miss!
I'm anxiously awaiting the mailman ;o)

By the way, ow's the klusons holding up and what'd you pay for em?

[rolilohse]

Originally Posted by olaftheholy

Go for the nocasters, you can't miss!
I'm anxiously awaiting the mailman ;o)

By the way, ow's the klusons holding up and what'd you pay for em?

The Klusons have a real smooth action and they stay in tune pretty well. I ordered them at Thoman for 28 €:

http://www.thomann.de/nl/goeldo_mc6ln.htm.

Seem to be 1 € cheaper in the Dutch international shop .

This are not the Klusons sold in the US as Göldö/Rockinger have the rights for the Kluson brand here in Germany for some reasons. I read somewhere that these tuners are made by Gotoh which is not the badest reputation.

Roland

[grabby]

Originally Posted by Biz Prof

I removed the orange tint on my STL50's neck, reshaped the headstock, and replaced the saddles and the nut. Future mods include replacement tuners, a pearloid guard, and set of Keystones.

If you don't mind me asking, how did you go about refinishing the neck? I'm doing mine right now (reshape plus de-orange).

[Adam S]

Originally Posted by grievousangel

Me too!

Give me a shout when yours arrives, I was just told it will be next week:( Wherabouts in the NW are you?

[grievousangel]

Originally Posted by Adam S

Give me a shout when yours arrives, I was just told it will be next week:( Wherabouts in the NW are you?

Hi Adam,

Mine's here. Took five working days in all - not too bad from Belgium. I'll post some photos when I can get round to it. Really pleased.

(I'm at the edge of the Peak District, about half an hour from Manchester.)

[grievousangel]

Here's a few photos of my SX straight out of the box. Worth the £59? Oh, yes!

[Adam S]

Originally Posted by grievousangel

Hi Adam,

Mine's here. Took five working days in all - not too bad from Belgium. I'll post some photos when I can get round to it. Really pleased.

(I'm at the edge of the Peak District, about half an hour from Manchester.)

So Glossop ish? The guitar looks great, the colour is a lot better than I thought!

[grievousangel]

Originally Posted by Adam S

So Glossop ish? The guitar looks great, the colour is a lot better than I thought!

Yeah, the colour's not bad at all - more Colman's Mild American Mustard than the English variety!

Glossop is the place, though I'm originally from the Warrington/Widnes area - a woolyback?

[rolilohse]

Originally Posted by Adam S

So Glossop ish? The guitar looks great, the colour is a lot better than I thought!

Really cool colour way better than I thought.

I did not have the heart to order this colour after I saw the eBay pictures so I took the sunburst one.

The nut looks the same as on mine, probably the slots were made with a chainsaw.

Nice guitar anywhere, enjoy!

Cheers Roland

[Adam S]

Originally Posted by grievousangel

Yeah, the colour's not bad at all - more Colman's Mild American Mustard than the English variety!

Glossop is the place, though I'm originally from the Warrington/Widnes area - a woolyback?

Who dropped your guitar off? Was it parcelforce? I just realised I am going to North Wales till Tuesday afternoon and he told me Monday or Tuesday