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Old November 9th, 2008, 06:15 PM   #1 (permalink)
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G.E. Smith Owners Club

Let's create a database of G.E. Smith model Telecasters. We can record our serial numbers, provide the finish of that guitar, and any modifications you may have done. Pics are optional, but encouraged

I'm interested in doing this to establish what the serial number range is for the G.E. Smith models, at what number the new black finish was introduced, and just generally keeping track of this great, unique, not-for-everyone Telecaster model. Even if you don't own one, but you see one at a shop, toss the serial number and color up here.

And if anyone has one with the serial number NOT on the G.E. Smith neckplate, please mention that and provide a pic if possible.

Let's do this!


Known G.E. Smith Serial Numbers

ZOVANOU: SZ6190218, Honey Blonde, early model with headstock serial: neck date of Dec. 2006
Mike_Eskimo: SZ6190220, Honey Blonde, early model with headstock serial
milocj: SZ6190221, Honey Blonde, early model with headstock serial
Capn Rory: SZ6190236, Honey Blonde, early model with headstock serial

(First run of G.E. Smith models seem to be numbered, as best I can guess from our known serial numbers, from 01-40, identifiable by the last two digits in the headstock serial, ie- SZ61902xx. They are late 2006 models, possibly running into early 2007. No Dakota Red examples have been confirmed here with the headstock serial number. After roughly 40 units, serial numbers continue numerically, but switch location to the neckplate with no serial on the headstock, and adopt the SV0000xxx numbering system, listed below.)

Telehackster: SV000044, Honey Blonde
MickM: SV000065, Honey Blonde; soon to be refinished in Sparkle Blue.
stevehuff69: SV000069, Honey Blonde
rumblejett: SV000131, Dakota Red
MarkW: SV000144, Dakota Red
johnnytronics: SV000163, Dakota Red
Thinliner: SV000173, Honey Blonde
dual_tone: SV000174, Dakota Red
2tone60thAsh: SV000246, Dakota Red, reversed control plate
nedray: SV000253, Dakota Red
SWEETWATER-MUSIC: SV000260, Honey Blonde
Cuco: SV000285, Black


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Old November 9th, 2008, 06:19 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Old November 9th, 2008, 07:02 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I am in with a Honey Blonde, SV000044.

I will try to get a photo uploaded eventually, but the guitar looks exactly as you would expect it to.
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Old November 9th, 2008, 08:19 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Got it, thanks!
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Old November 11th, 2008, 02:34 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Mine is a blonde, SN #SZ6190221 with no numbers on the neckplate, just the GE Smith engraving. Did the numbered neckplates come first or last?
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Old November 11th, 2008, 03:54 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Awesome! Just what I've been looking for!

So it is a normal serial print on the headstock? If so, the "6" would make it a 2006 9correct me if I'm wrong)... so I am guessing yours would be one of the first, rather than a later model.

When did you buy it? (new?)

Thanks for posting that!
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Old November 11th, 2008, 04:29 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I bought it new. I think I got it around February or March of this year but it had been hanging in the store for quite awhile and I think they actually ordered it from Fender when they were announced. I haven't pulled the neck to see if there is any date.

It's written like a standard Fender serial number on the back of the headstock.
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Old November 11th, 2008, 05:58 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Cool! if I were a bettin' man, I'd say that's one of first ones.

Nice!
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Old November 11th, 2008, 08:31 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Could well be...I think they were introduced in Jan 2007....2tone, I think yours had a July 07 Neck date.
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Old November 12th, 2008, 01:12 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Yeah, right around there June or July.

And here I was thinking the headstock serials didn't exist!

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Old November 12th, 2008, 11:25 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Yeah, right around there June or July.

And here I was thinking the headstock serials didn't exist!

How many times have I told you to Never Doubt Me !!!........
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Old November 12th, 2008, 06:49 PM   #12 (permalink)
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How many times have I told you to Never Doubt Me !!!........
I guess this grasshopper has much to learn!


Any more proud GE owners out there? Chime in, folks!
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Old November 12th, 2008, 09:38 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Maybe you posted about this somewhere before and I missed it, but am I correct in assuming that your GE also has a headstock only serial number and you hadn't seen another one until mine? If ours are early models I wonder if they started the neckplate serail numbered editions at #1?

I've only seen two GE Smiths in stores and they were both at about the same time that the one I eventually bought arrived in the store. The other one was at a different store and I picked it up but didn't pay any attention to the serial number. It sold relatively quickly and I've never seen another one except for the one that I bought. It was hanging over the counter out of reach and I kind of doubt that anybody played it for 7 or 8 months until I asked them to get it down. I had been saving up for the CS Nocaster that they had but couldn't bring myself to spend an extra $1100 or so once I played the GE.
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Well done on choosing the GE Smith over the Nocaster, milocj! they're great aren't they?! Every time I take it somewhere, every store, everyone comments on it and wants to try it.

but no, mine is the standard neckplate serial. Yours is the only one I have seen with the headstock serial, and it seems to have a sort of "normal" serial number, instead of the "SV000xxx" the rest of us have. (By rest of us I mean me and Telehackster! )

But no, you're unique as far as I know. Melle' and I were debating over the legitimacy of a GE model on Elderly.com which had a headstock serial similar to yours, but looks like they do exist, and I would think they are early models, the first batch.
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I think you might be correct, 2Tone, about the ones with the conventional serial number on the back of the headstock predating the ones with the series number on the neckplate. The first one I played (about a year ago) had the number on the headstock, but I didn't think anythng about it at the time. I have seen others online. It would be interesting to know more details about when Fender switched.

On another note, in either a Vintage Guitar or Guitar Player article G.E. mentioned that the color of the Dakota Red ones was more orange than intended in the first fifty or so. I've definitely not seen one of those.

Nice guitar, milocj! That makes two blondes and two red ones so far in this little club.
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Old November 13th, 2008, 03:45 AM   #16 (permalink)
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I wish Wildwood guitars would do a thinskin version with a 9.5 radius board on this guitar. That would be killer?!?!?
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Old November 13th, 2008, 06:38 AM   #17 (permalink)
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The first GE Smith that I saw was at Elderly and they got theirs about the same time as the store I bought mine from took delivery of this one. The stores are about 60 miles from each other so maybe the first few didn't have neck plated numbers.

Maybe I should call Fender and tell them I need another neckplate (lol).
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I have a red one, it's one of my favorite guitars I play, the ser# is on the neck plate.
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My G.E. was bought in March of 2007 and has only a headstock serial number: SZ6**0236.
It was bought at Avenue Guitars in Edmonton.
I don't know about neckplate vs. headstock serial number version orders.
I DO KNOW, these are real nice Telecasters, and I care nothing about collectibility, only that my examples of guitar genres are exceptional players. I do own most of the major types, so I know what I speak of.
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That makes two blondes and two red ones so far in this little club.
Did I miss the other red one?

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I have a red one, it's one of my favorite guitars I play, the ser# is on the neck plate.
What's the serial on it? Welcome to the club!

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I DO KNOW, these are real nice Telecasters, and I care nothing about collectibility, only that my examples of guitar genres are exceptional players. I do own most of the major types, so I know what I speak of.
Amen!

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The first GE Smith that I saw was at Elderly and they got theirs about the same time as the store I bought mine from took delivery of this one. The stores are about 60 miles from each other so maybe the first few didn't have neck plated numbers.

Maybe I should call Fender and tell them I need another neckplate (lol).
Interesting bit on the Elderly connection...

No way, I say keep it as is... it's a unique one!
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Side note/observation regarding mystery of when the neckplate serial was introduced:

Seems like both milocj and Capn Rory have serials ending in "02xx", 21 and 36 respectively. We know Milo's is blonde, not sure about Ron yet, but then Telehackster's is the neckplate serial, number "0044".

Simply a guess, but it would seem like at least the first 36 models produced were headstock serialized, and at least as early as Hackster's number 44 were neckplates. So if Fender kept up with how many were begin made, maybe they carried over the first batch of (roughly) 40 models' serial numbers into the neckplate models, or it is possible they started fresh with serial SV0000001 with the neckplates. Seems to me like they continued the same progression of serials from the headstocks to the neckplates.

Coupled with the info from Hackster about "the first 50 or so" of the Batch, where the Dakota Red was slightly orange, maybe this first batch was where they were still perfecting the colors and nuances such as serial number location/standardization.

Interesting stuff!
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Um yeah, guys I'm gonna have to ask you for a few more pics please...;)
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Ask and ye shall receive!

Resting with my new amp, and I found out that Tele headstocks make a great cigarette holder, until you forget its there! Burnt Tele smells much sweeter than a ciggie though


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Also, cool thing about the GE Smith is that it has got to be thin-skin finish because the red paint has sunken into the wood grain so you can see the Ash underneath. Tried to snag a pic of it, but can't get it to show up.
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Nice Pic 2Tone...sometimes they look nice w/ a little added Decoration...

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Did I miss the other red one?
I think I just meant yours and Mellecaster's. Sorry about that.

One correction: The orangish color was actually on the blondes and not the Dakota one as I thought. Here is G.E.'s comment: "Well, we did kind of an early-'50s blond with a black guard. Funny thing, the first 50 or so have kind of a little more orange to the color."

This interview, "G.E. Talks Tele," is on 9.194 of the March 2008 issue of Vintage Guitar, right after a review of the guitar.
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Ahhh ok, so maybe the Dakota Red didn't kick in until the neckplate serials? Who knows, only time will tell as more people post up (hopefully!)

Mine and Melle's are one and the same, in case you didn't know.

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here's my ser# sv000131
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Mine is a neckplate # ending with 065. Was honey blonde but Buckocaster will soon be finishing the transition to Blue sparkle.
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Can't wait to see that GE in blue sparkle! C'mon Bucko, we're waiting.
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six members and counting!

I am also interested in seeing the Sparkle Blue on a GE Smith.

Anybody get a black one yet? LOVE the look of those!
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Well, add one more to the list.
And a little famous one at that.

Jorma Kaukonen just e-mailed me back and confirmed that he is going to buy a GE sig Tele!
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Oh cool! Well, make sure he posts up the info on it, if he wants to join the club that is...

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Red one here--SV ser # ending in 253 on the neck plate. Think it's a 2007. Nice guitar that weighs about 5 lbs--seriously. I need to work on the pickup adjustment a little though because I don't think it sounds as good as it used to. Right now, my 52RI sounds vastly better, but it seems to me they should sound similar. Especially in the neck pickup, which Fender sez is the same. The GE is a thinskin nitro finish, but with the traditional radius and frets. I suspect GE designed it that way to retain the traditional Tele tone. Don't want to start a fight here, but I"m becoming convinced that the modern fretboard configuration is a tone killer. I've had a couple 52RIs with the Wildwood treatment and I sold both of them. They were OK, but just didn't have the "it" that scratches my Tele itch.
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Alright ned, welcome to the club!
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Auuuuuggggghhhhh !

I just missed the one that sold on Ebay yesterday for $750 including shipping...

Oy-frickin-vey.

God I gotta get one of these GE's and SOON !

Anybody wanna sell ? (for less than retail of course...)
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I would be all over this one if I had the bucks:
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Auuuuuggggghhhhh !

I just missed the one that sold on Ebay yesterday for $750 including shipping...

Oy-frickin-vey.

God I gotta get one of these GE's and SOON !

Anybody wanna sell ? (for less than retail of course...)
Good thing you didn't get that one, it wasn't a real GE Smith, it was a partscaster made to look like the real deal.
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Good thing you didn't get that one, it wasn't a real GE Smith, it was a partscaster made to look like the real deal.
Wow, seriously? Link?
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