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TerryOz · March 24th, 2009, 09:45 AM

I don't want to be or appear to be elitist here and I can assure you that I am not...I am a member of the Unnoficial Martin Guitar Forum and I enjoy that Forum as much as I have this one over the years...They have a "Vintage Corner" section there and it is pretty much the only section I check out, this is because my main interest in Martin guitars is the Vintage Guitars that are so sought after by pickers and collectors...I am the same with my Telecasters, I like the Custom Shop reissues as well, but it is the Vintage stuff that interests me...I am hoping to encourage a healthy discussion about introducing a section here where, if you want to talk about a particular Old Tele that you have or know of, which may need some opinions on restoration, value, originality, parts needed, opinions on an auction etc...If you post something like "show us your Squier Teles" or "Who is you favourite Player" or whatever, it would stay here, there is nothing wrong with these posts, although I do admit to finding some a bit repetitive...It would stop some of the arguments as well...EG whenever puts up a link to an auction to an original Blackguard the might like the idea of, there is the following exchange...A says "gee, if I won $50K, I'd have this"...B says, "No guitar is worth that money" C says "I dont like the look of that Decal placement and there is something wrong with the amount of wear on the body compared to the neck, D says "I prefer my CS relic reissue, they are the better than any of the originals, because they are worn out and over rated" E says " I am a player not a collector and I think my Squier is as good and costs a fraction of this one" ...It often turns into a bunfight!...It is clear that there are many here who are in possession of substantial Vintage Guitars and I am sure that if they came here to the Vintage Corner they could go about there discussions without having to wade through the "Show us your" posts, the "I just bought my first" posts, the "What do you think of this colour pickguard?" Posts...I repeat, there is absolutely NOTHING wrong with these posts.it is just that I am not personally into them...I would still come here to read some that I do find interesting, but I'd be checking out the Vintage Corner first...REPEAT, NOT TRYING TO RATTLE ANYONES CAGE HERE!

Red Paul · March 24th, 2009, 09:48 AM

You're right Terry, there's nothing wrong with the banter you get on all forums, but it can get in the way of 'serious' discussions. On most forums they're room for both... a Vintage Corner might be a good idea, but would need to be strictly moderated to work.

Nick JD · March 24th, 2009, 10:04 AM

Hey Terry, I'd settle for compulsory paragraphing, and a maximum sentence length in posts.

repeatofender · March 24th, 2009, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Nick JD

Hey Terry, I'd settle for compulsory paragraphing, and a maximum sentence length in posts.

Well that's just mean.

jkingma · March 24th, 2009, 10:19 AM

I think it is a good idea as well. But I would also like to see it open to more than just vintage Teles. I like checking out all vintage guitars, regardless of the make and model and I'll bet there are some real gems floating around out there.

TerryOz · March 24th, 2009, 10:26 AM

I have no problem with the concept of discussing all types of Vintage guitars...As long as it was with complusory paragraphing and with a maximum sentence length, although I may struggle myself with the latter!

mellecaster · March 24th, 2009, 11:16 AM

I think there are too many Damn sub-categories now...but that could just be Me ?

Tonemonkey · March 24th, 2009, 11:35 AM

Don't you then run the risk of splitting the Tel Dis Forum to:

Vintage Corner
Custom Shed
US and Proud
The Sushi Bar
Tequila and Tacos
Squier Shack
Handbuilt House
Fender Fjord

Posts about "Vintage" tend to labelled as such in the title. And if its in Vintage Corner, whats to stop the undesirables

lusting after it in the way they do now! Are you going to password it?

See Strat-Talk, which has hoofed Squiers to their own corner. So instead of, like here, CS owners getting to discuss and comment on people's Squier aspirations...they're left to talk alone in dark huddles away from the Elite. (Was that over dramatic?

)

Mark Davis · March 24th, 2009, 11:37 AM

Im with Mellecaster when a forum gets split up into too many areas people tend to ignore them.

We have been discussing Vintage Teles on the main Tele page here for the past 12 years and its worked fine. In fact for many years we didnt have any categories just discussed everything on the same page.

All people have to do is type in the right subject to draw attention to Vintage and the people who are interested will read it ones that arent wont simple.

e-merlin · March 24th, 2009, 04:59 PM

Where do we draw the line on "vintage?" I have a darn-near 20 year old Tele with a factory Floyd Rose...

jkingma · March 24th, 2009, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by e-merlin

Where do we draw the line on "vintage?" I have a darn-near 20 year old Tele with a factory Floyd Rose...

Isn't more than 25 years old generally accepted as vintage

BritishBluesBoy · March 24th, 2009, 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mellecaster

I think there are too many Damn sub-categories now...but that could just be Me ?

No, it's not just you.

Rabog · March 24th, 2009, 05:19 PM

Too many sections already on here for my liking. Keep It Simple....maxim for life! Vintage Corner would still get "what colour pickguard", "what date stamp", etc., etc., etc., etc.....

I find it's really quite simple to bypass the comments you don't care for, or the threads you don't care for.....

IMO of course.

TDPRI · March 24th, 2009, 05:30 PM

Old horse, already beaten.

This has been an on and off discussion here for the last 10 years. It's fine for you to discuss it again, if you wish.

PS. Paragraphs! +1

sean79 · March 24th, 2009, 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TerryOz

...It often turns into a bunfight!

Okay... what's a bunfight?

e-merlin · March 24th, 2009, 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sean79

Okay... what's a bunfight?

I don't know but it gives a whole new meaning to the song, "Big Iron."

mralmostpopular · April 3rd, 2009, 03:50 AM

What's to stop people from going into the vintage sub-section and typing the same things that you're complaining about right now?

Ok, maybe you'll weed out a few people, but there's still the potential for the kind of talk you're describing in any sub-section. I can absolutely understand what you're talking about, though.

However, I think it would cause more problems than it would solve. As was already said, what is to stop things from being broken down further. And you'll have people crying foul when they don't get their own section. Also, there's a chance that some people would come to think of that section as elitist, and that could create some bad feelings in the forum. It works fine in a Martin forum because you get a different vibe there. Martin's have always had a prestige about them that the Telecasters have not. Tele's are an every man's guitar and that's the kind of feeling that I think TDPRI likes to have - everyone is invited to the party, and there is no VIP room.

Personally, I wouldn't have a problem with it, but I can definitely see where it could cause some issues.

JPark · April 3rd, 2009, 03:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sean79

Okay... what's a bunfight?

I'm not sure, but it sounds fun! Could you imagine, throwing soft baked goods at each other? There's no way anyone could get hurt!

mralmostpopular · April 3rd, 2009, 04:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JPark

I'm not sure, but it sounds fun! Could you imagine, throwing soft baked goods at each other? There's no way anyone could get hurt!

Not unless you aim for the eye. That's just the kind of poor sportsmanship-like conduct I'm known for. I play dirty to win.

Plus, what a good story that would be. "I blinded a man with a pastry."

Well, for you, not the other guy.

pengipete · April 3rd, 2009, 12:20 PM

Let's not forget that classic film "Bunfight at the O.K. Tearooms"

JPark · April 3rd, 2009, 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mralmostpopular

Not unless you aim for the eye. That's just the kind of poor sportsmanship-like conduct I'm known for. I play dirty to win.

Plus, what a good story that would be. "I blinded a man with a pastry."

Well, for you, not the other guy.

Well, that's why we would wear protective eye-wear

TDPRI · April 3rd, 2009, 06:42 PM

Hey all. I'm closing this. I use this forum for monitoring problems and so, when there is any other type of posting going on it messes me up by contacting me when a problem doesn't exist.

Thanks

March 24th, 2009, 09:45 AM	#1 (permalink)
TerryOz Tele-Meister Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: South Australia Age: 55 Posts: 240	I'd like to see a "Vintage Corner" at the TDPRI I don't want to be or appear to be elitist here and I can assure you that I am not...I am a member of the Unnoficial Martin Guitar Forum and I enjoy that Forum as much as I have this one over the years...They have a "Vintage Corner" section there and it is pretty much the only section I check out, this is because my main interest in Martin guitars is the Vintage Guitars that are so sought after by pickers and collectors...I am the same with my Telecasters, I like the Custom Shop reissues as well, but it is the Vintage stuff that interests me...I am hoping to encourage a healthy discussion about introducing a section here where, if you want to talk about a particular Old Tele that you have or know of, which may need some opinions on restoration, value, originality, parts needed, opinions on an auction etc...If you post something like "show us your Squier Teles" or "Who is you favourite Player" or whatever, it would stay here, there is nothing wrong with these posts, although I do admit to finding some a bit repetitive...It would stop some of the arguments as well...EG whenever puts up a link to an auction to an original Blackguard the might like the idea of, there is the following exchange...A says "gee, if I won $50K, I'd have this"...B says, "No guitar is worth that money" C says "I dont like the look of that Decal placement and there is something wrong with the amount of wear on the body compared to the neck, D says "I prefer my CS relic reissue, they are the better than any of the originals, because they are worn out and over rated" E says " I am a player not a collector and I think my Squier is as good and costs a fraction of this one" ...It often turns into a bunfight!...It is clear that there are many here who are in possession of substantial Vintage Guitars and I am sure that if they came here to the Vintage Corner they could go about there discussions without having to wade through the "Show us your" posts, the "I just bought my first" posts, the "What do you think of this colour pickguard?" Posts...I repeat, there is absolutely NOTHING wrong with these posts.it is just that I am not personally into them...I would still come here to read some that I do find interesting, but I'd be checking out the Vintage Corner first...REPEAT, NOT TRYING TO RATTLE ANYONES CAGE HERE! __________________ *Tele-Contented* *"Amateurs practice until they get it right...Professionals practice until they cant get it wrong!"*

March 24th, 2009, 09:48 AM	#2 (permalink)
Red Paul TDPRI Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: UK Posts: 12	You're right Terry, there's nothing wrong with the banter you get on all forums, but it can get in the way of 'serious' discussions. On most forums they're room for both... a Vintage Corner might be a good idea, but would need to be strictly moderated to work. __________________ Guitar Collector forum

March 24th, 2009, 10:04 AM	#3 (permalink)
Nick JD Friend of Leo's Join Date: May 2007 Location: North NSW, Australia Age: 37 Posts: 4,856	Hey Terry, I'd settle for compulsory paragraphing, and a maximum sentence length in posts. __________________

March 24th, 2009, 10:19 AM	#5 (permalink)
jkingma Friend of Leo's Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: N43° 11.943 ~ W079° 35.285 Posts: 3,083 18 Photos	I think it is a good idea as well. But I would also like to see it open to more than just vintage Teles. I like checking out all vintage guitars, regardless of the make and model and I'll bet there are some real gems floating around out there. __________________ Creator of Fine Sawdust and Expensive Kindling.

March 24th, 2009, 10:26 AM	#6 (permalink)
TerryOz Tele-Meister Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: South Australia Age: 55 Posts: 240	I guess that works! I have no problem with the concept of discussing all types of Vintage guitars...As long as it was with complusory paragraphing and with a maximum sentence length, although I may struggle myself with the latter! __________________ *Tele-Contented* *"Amateurs practice until they get it right...Professionals practice until they cant get it wrong!"*

March 24th, 2009, 11:16 AM	#7 (permalink)
mellecaster VENDOR Poster Extraordinaire Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Maryland Posts: 7,655 17 Photos	I think there are too many Damn sub-categories now...but that could just be Me ? __________________ Expert Repair....ReCrafting...and Set-ups Making your World a Better Place...One Guitar at a time

March 24th, 2009, 11:35 AM	#8 (permalink)
Tonemonkey Tele-Holic Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Gibraltar !! Age: 43 Posts: 764	Don't you then run the risk of splitting the Tel Dis Forum to: Vintage Corner Custom Shed US and Proud The Sushi Bar Tequila and Tacos Squier Shack Handbuilt House Fender Fjord Posts about "Vintage" tend to labelled as such in the title. And if its in Vintage Corner, whats to stop the undesirables lusting after it in the way they do now! Are you going to password it? See Strat-Talk, which has hoofed Squiers to their own corner. So instead of, like here, CS owners getting to discuss and comment on people's Squier aspirations...they're left to talk alone in dark huddles away from the Elite. (Was that over dramatic? ) __________________ It doesn't mean a thing if it doesn't have that twing!

March 24th, 2009, 11:37 AM	#9 (permalink)
Mark Davis Doctor of Teleocity Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Bakersfield Ca. Age: 59 Posts: 17,162	Im with Mellecaster when a forum gets split up into too many areas people tend to ignore them. We have been discussing Vintage Teles on the main Tele page here for the past 12 years and its worked fine. In fact for many years we didnt have any categories just discussed everything on the same page. All people have to do is type in the right subject to draw attention to Vintage and the people who are interested will read it ones that arent wont simple. __________________ I'm so blind my seeing eye dog needs glasses.

March 24th, 2009, 05:19 PM	#13 (permalink)
Rabog Tele-Holic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: UK Posts: 660	Too many sections already on here for my liking. Keep It Simple....maxim for life! Vintage Corner would still get "what colour pickguard", "what date stamp", etc., etc., etc., etc..... I find it's really quite simple to bypass the comments you don't care for, or the threads you don't care for..... IMO of course.

March 24th, 2009, 05:30 PM	#14 (permalink)
TDPRI Administrator Poster Extraordinaire Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: TDPRILAND Posts: 7,060 46 Photos	Old horse, already beaten. This has been an on and off discussion here for the last 10 years. It's fine for you to discuss it again, if you wish. PS. Paragraphs! +1

April 3rd, 2009, 03:50 AM	#17 (permalink)
mralmostpopular Tele-Meister Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Los Angeles/New York Posts: 264 3 Photos	What's to stop people from going into the vintage sub-section and typing the same things that you're complaining about right now? Ok, maybe you'll weed out a few people, but there's still the potential for the kind of talk you're describing in any sub-section. I can absolutely understand what you're talking about, though. However, I think it would cause more problems than it would solve. As was already said, what is to stop things from being broken down further. And you'll have people crying foul when they don't get their own section. Also, there's a chance that some people would come to think of that section as elitist, and that could create some bad feelings in the forum. It works fine in a Martin forum because you get a different vibe there. Martin's have always had a prestige about them that the Telecasters have not. Tele's are an every man's guitar and that's the kind of feeling that I think TDPRI likes to have - everyone is invited to the party, and there is no VIP room. Personally, I wouldn't have a problem with it, but I can definitely see where it could cause some issues. __________________ "If it ain't got twang, then it don't sang!" I don't care what you say, pink is manly.

April 3rd, 2009, 12:20 PM	#20 (permalink)
pengipete Friend of Leo's Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: UK Posts: 3,557	Let's not forget that classic film "Bunfight at the O.K. Tearooms"

April 3rd, 2009, 06:42 PM	#22 (permalink)
TDPRI Administrator Poster Extraordinaire Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: TDPRILAND Posts: 7,060 46 Photos	Hey all. I'm closing this. I use this forum for monitoring problems and so, when there is any other type of posting going on it messes me up by contacting me when a problem doesn't exist. Thanks

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