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Old March 22nd, 2011, 09:10 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Y'all just need another table...
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Old March 22nd, 2011, 09:17 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Colt,

I noticed one of your prettiest blonde guitars is somewhere between 5 and 6 feet long. ...Strings all the way past the bouts.

Change some oil... air filter... maybe pads on the front... fix the broken window crank... lunch. You CAN work this out!
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Old March 22nd, 2011, 09:33 PM   #23 (permalink)
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I noticed one of your prettiest blonde guitars is somewhere between 5 and 6 feet long. ...Strings all the way past the bouts.

Change some oil... air filter... maybe pads on the front... fix the broken window crank... lunch. You CAN work this out!
Are you talking about this one?
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Old March 22nd, 2011, 09:41 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Yeah... not the blue one... the pink and yellow one...
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Old March 22nd, 2011, 09:45 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Yeah... not the blue one... the pink and yellow one...
It's an Ashley model.

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Old March 22nd, 2011, 10:01 PM   #26 (permalink)
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I'm partial to ash... nothin' personal mind you.
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Old March 22nd, 2011, 10:09 PM   #27 (permalink)
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Old March 22nd, 2011, 11:05 PM   #28 (permalink)
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We just bought a property in the East mountains in ABQ NM.

Wow I will actually maybe get a real shed and some real tools!!!

First thing I want is a proper work bench with a 360 degree access ! I will have to post a question thread about all the power tools I will need..I mean big man type tools...band-saws, routers...i love them

maybe i can be the first woman in a building tele challenge then, god knows I am pedantic enough about DETAIL !!!

I just wanna build guitars...
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Old March 22nd, 2011, 11:14 PM   #29 (permalink)
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Women cannot build guitars... the guitars have to work when they're done.

Sorry... just sayin'.

Just kidding... Mrs. Ash is into woodworking too... and good at it.
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Old March 22nd, 2011, 11:49 PM   #30 (permalink)
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We just bought a property in the East mountains in ABQ NM.

Wow I will actually maybe get a real shed and some real tools!!!

First thing I want is a proper work bench with a 360 degree access ! I will have to post a question thread about all the power tools I will need..I mean big man type tools...band-saws, routers...i love them

maybe i can be the first woman in a building tele challenge then, god knows I am pedantic enough about DETAIL !!!

I just wanna build guitars...
You'll have a blast, but remember to keep your hair UP. The last thing you want is to catch your hair in a blade spinning thousands of rotations a minute.
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Old March 23rd, 2011, 02:41 AM   #31 (permalink)
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What's the best, least expensive wood to use for the top (vices will be installed on the top)?
I'd have to have a pretty big table to hold all of my vices. On the other hand, a few vises always come in handy.

As far as lighting, I have a couple of those plug in fluorescent lights over my benches and a reading lamp I can move around where it's needed.
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Old March 23rd, 2011, 10:13 AM   #32 (permalink)
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Sadly, I lack the self-discipline to have a neat workspace, though I certainly admire those who do. I think I could compete in a "most disorganized shop" contest. I've never mastered the art of putting away a tool when I've finished using it. I sometimes have to stop mid-project to clean up in order to find a missing tool. At my advanced age I'm not likely to change my work habits. I have two 8' x 2' work tables. One from Costco and one home built.
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Ive got a shot in this competition.

...you two need a little more training. That level of sloppiness just won't cut it. Try closing your eyes and just throwin' stuff around. Do the tangle dance with your cords (take a bunch of extension cords and power chords and...well...use the photo below as reference for what a truly sloppy shop looks like!)



Some mood music to get you going, The Sloppy Song!!!



If you need some tutoring...I can send my son over, he's got the sloppy shop thing down pat -- he started young!
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...you two need a little more training. That level of sloppiness just won't cut it. Try closing your eyes and just throwin' stuff around. Do the tangle dance with your cords (take a bunch of extension cords and power chords and...well...use the photo below as reference for what a truly sloppy shop looks like!)

And the winner is....
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Old March 23rd, 2011, 11:59 AM   #34 (permalink)
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I see a Lambda power supply hiding in that mess...
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Old March 26th, 2011, 10:19 PM   #35 (permalink)
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A brief delay. We're getting the wood for the frame on Monday, Tuesday -- Redwood.

Still undecided about the top. There's lots of choices.

Chairs are being ordered tomorrow. ...what else... lighting.

t-5 bulbs.

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Old March 26th, 2011, 11:11 PM   #36 (permalink)
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Isnt redwood kind of soft, like cedar?
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Old March 27th, 2011, 04:37 AM   #37 (permalink)
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Isnt redwood kind of soft, like cedar?
Yes, but..."It's pretty." And, "The choice of wood is not as important as the integrity of the design - cross grain construction and inadequate joinery typically have a more destructive effect than the use of a less-than-ideal wood."

It should do okay and it'll be softer on the knees and guitars that get banged into it.

I'm curious to see how redwood works with those plastic legs and a hard top.

My only concern is spesh-ul moments. However, I remember picnic tables, when they are assembled right, they are strong and light, when not assembled right...rickety and weak. And, when it's dry, it's harder. Outdoors? Mushy. Indoors, may work!

No heavy-duty work is going to be done on that table, just setups, nuts, fret leveling, electrical, no hammering or heavy duty tools, just basic guitar stuff.

If somebody wants to talk me out of it...
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I am new to guitar building, but I've been a woodworker for a good many years, and I've always used solid core doors for my bench tops. We have a Habitat for Humanity ReStore near where I live, and I can usually find one with the lockset blown out, or bad hinge mortises that they'll sell me for $15-20. Dead flat, and plenty heavy for my purposes, plus I feel like I'm doing something good by shopping there. Just my $.02
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+1 Solid core doors make great economical bench tops and the recycling aspect is a bonus. In the past I've used the solid core door as a base for a Masonite top in order to have a smooth, flat work surface.
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Not to mention that they are a fraction of the cost of other materials. I almost bought a whole stack of them from a local hotel that was remodeling. If I had only had the room for them back then.
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