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Friend of Leo's
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Oklahoma - Home of the Sooners
Age: 38
Posts: 2,155
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Who Has Used Watco Lacquer?
I normally order my nitro from ReRanch, but they are waiting for some raw ingrediants and are delayed with no idea of when they can ship. I have used Deft and just flat hate it. Woodcraft has Watco brand, which I have never used. Anyone out there used this brand? Opinions? Thanks, Dale.
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I have used WATCO and liked it fine.
But then I have used both ReRanch and DEFT and liked them equally fine. And now you know...
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The Watco gloss and semi gloss both I used recently. The semi I got a gallon for 17.00 so I went for it. You can polish it out fine. The gloss over a bare wood look is killer. I will say I sure like the way the gloss drys a LOT LOT better that the Semi.
You can say I will stick with the Watco Semi, protect your lungs with this stuff with a GOOD breathing apparatus approved for it via the MSDS info. Just a data point; Watco is owned by rustolium FWIW. |
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Certainly worth mentioning. ;) My first nitro job with this summer my respirator filtering was not adequate for the lacquer and I got a nasty buzz. The next day twice I got the spins all of a sudden and had to sit down or fall down. Like the worst memory I have of the drunken spins but without being drunk. I went about finding the info and correct filtering for the material after that one.
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Friend of Leo's
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Oklahoma - Home of the Sooners
Age: 38
Posts: 2,155
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Working in new home construction, I often find myself in homes filled with lacquer overspray. Most of the painters do not use respirators at all. I will not allow any of our guys into a house where they are working with sanding sealer, stain or lacquer. That is some nasty stuff and will kick your butt in ten minutes or less.
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Doctor of Teleocity
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: New Orleans, LA + in the past
Posts: 15,209
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Yeah, that's right and that keeps me scared. Buy the Right kind of mask with the right kind of filters, and change them often. You can use the old filters for sanding wood, drywall etc., but once you start smelling lacquer vapors, it is done for shooting lacquer, stop, and replace the filter. The other things that scare me are 1) being unable to breathe or 2) lung cancer. For you guys that smoked a lot or still smoke, you might not want to shoot lacquer at all, honestly. Synergy. *** Oh, yeah, Watco! Used a number of their other products; always very satisfied, which is not the case with Minwax (Polyshades) and a couple other manufacturers, including the parent, Rustoleum.
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Tele-Afflicted
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I prefer the ReRanch for speed of curing and the fact that none of my 3 respirators can protect me from Watco fumes (no prob with ReRanch).
This stuff is brain damage in a can. I use a wet facecloth between my nose and mouth and the respirator. Can't say in 30+ years of painting cars, motorcycles and now guitars that I've ever worked with anything this bad. But it is a quality product I can get for $7 a can at the corner of my street (in Canada!), so I use it..... |
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TDPRI Member
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Upstate NY
Age: 57
Posts: 81
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Experience with Watco Danish Oil
I'm about to use Watco Danish Oil. We used to use it in a cabinet shop I worked in out in San Diego eons and many brain cells ago. I'm just going to use natural over a gorgeous 1 piece ash body and polish it up. My concern is, I've had the body done in a nice top binding and am not sure what to do to protect it. I may just go over it with the Watco and polish it up, too. I understand laquer won't stick to the Danish Oil, but I find that a bit odd.
Any input appreciated. |
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Tele-Holic
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Sacramento, CA
Age: 26
Posts: 552
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If you can spray with a gun Sherwin Williams Nitro is pretty good (unless you live in CA then your screwed). I've had good luck with some of the old cans we've had for quite a while.
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Would the oil stick to the binding is the question that comes to my mind. Last edited by robt57; January 25th, 2009 at 12:44 PM. |
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TDPRI Member
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Upstate NY
Age: 57
Posts: 81
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Binding
Yeah, that's my concern, too. I may try to do the oil, then a satin laquer on a test piece, but I'm stumped about the binding. I'll have to email my man Bruno, of Jacquet Guitars, that sold me the body and did the work. No spam here, but he's great to deal with, should the need arise.
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