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Old January 23rd, 2009, 10:08 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Who Has Used Watco Lacquer?

I normally order my nitro from ReRanch, but they are waiting for some raw ingrediants and are delayed with no idea of when they can ship. I have used Deft and just flat hate it. Woodcraft has Watco brand, which I have never used. Anyone out there used this brand? Opinions? Thanks, Dale.

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Old January 23rd, 2009, 12:46 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I have used WATCO and liked it fine.

But then I have used both ReRanch and DEFT and liked them equally fine.

And now you know...
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Old January 23rd, 2009, 01:02 PM   #3 (permalink)
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The Watco gloss and semi gloss both I used recently. The semi I got a gallon for 17.00 so I went for it. You can polish it out fine. The gloss over a bare wood look is killer. I will say I sure like the way the gloss drys a LOT LOT better that the Semi.

You can say I will stick with the Watco Semi, protect your lungs with this stuff with a GOOD breathing apparatus approved for it via the MSDS info.

Just a data point; Watco is owned by rustolium FWIW.
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Old January 23rd, 2009, 01:33 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I always wear a repirator. I value all the brain cells I have left.
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Old January 23rd, 2009, 01:39 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I always wear a repirator. I value all the brain cells I have left.
Certainly worth mentioning. ;) My first nitro job with this summer my respirator filtering was not adequate for the lacquer and I got a nasty buzz. The next day twice I got the spins all of a sudden and had to sit down or fall down. Like the worst memory I have of the drunken spins but without being drunk. I went about finding the info and correct filtering for the material after that one.
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Old January 23rd, 2009, 02:32 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Working in new home construction, I often find myself in homes filled with lacquer overspray. Most of the painters do not use respirators at all. I will not allow any of our guys into a house where they are working with sanding sealer, stain or lacquer. That is some nasty stuff and will kick your butt in ten minutes or less.
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Old January 23rd, 2009, 02:37 PM   #7 (permalink)
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IIRC, nitro is among ones that cause neurological damage.
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Old January 23rd, 2009, 04:06 PM   #8 (permalink)
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IIRC, nitro is among ones that cause neurological damage.

Yeah, that's right and that keeps me scared. Buy the Right kind of mask with the right kind of filters, and change them often. You can use the old filters for sanding wood, drywall etc., but once you start smelling lacquer vapors, it is done for shooting lacquer, stop, and replace the filter.

The other things that scare me are 1) being unable to breathe or 2) lung cancer. For you guys that smoked a lot or still smoke, you might not want to shoot lacquer at all, honestly. Synergy.

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Oh, yeah, Watco! Used a number of their other products; always very satisfied, which is not the case with Minwax (Polyshades) and a couple other manufacturers, including the parent, Rustoleum.
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Old January 24th, 2009, 12:35 AM   #9 (permalink)
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I prefer the ReRanch for speed of curing and the fact that none of my 3 respirators can protect me from Watco fumes (no prob with ReRanch).

This stuff is brain damage in a can. I use a wet facecloth between my nose and mouth and the respirator. Can't say in 30+ years of painting cars, motorcycles and now guitars that I've ever worked with anything this bad.

But it is a quality product I can get for $7 a can at the corner of my street (in Canada!), so I use it.....
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Experience with Watco Danish Oil

I'm about to use Watco Danish Oil. We used to use it in a cabinet shop I worked in out in San Diego eons and many brain cells ago. I'm just going to use natural over a gorgeous 1 piece ash body and polish it up. My concern is, I've had the body done in a nice top binding and am not sure what to do to protect it. I may just go over it with the Watco and polish it up, too. I understand laquer won't stick to the Danish Oil, but I find that a bit odd.
Any input appreciated.
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Old January 25th, 2009, 12:00 PM   #11 (permalink)
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If you can spray with a gun Sherwin Williams Nitro is pretty good (unless you live in CA then your screwed). I've had good luck with some of the old cans we've had for quite a while.
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Old January 25th, 2009, 12:03 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I'm about to use Watco Danish Oil. We used to use it in a cabinet shop I worked in out in San Diego eons and many brain cells ago. I'm just going to use natural over a gorgeous 1 piece ash body and polish it up. My concern is, I've had the body done in a nice top binding and am not sure what to do to protect it. I may just go over it with the Watco and polish it up, too. I understand laquer won't stick to the Danish Oil, but I find that a bit odd.
Any input appreciated.

Would the oil stick to the binding is the question that comes to my mind.
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Old January 25th, 2009, 12:32 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Binding

Yeah, that's my concern, too. I may try to do the oil, then a satin laquer on a test piece, but I'm stumped about the binding. I'll have to email my man Bruno, of Jacquet Guitars, that sold me the body and did the work. No spam here, but he's great to deal with, should the need arise.
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