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Telecaster Guitar Forum http://www.tdpri.com/forum en Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:43:59 GMT vBulletin 5 http://www.tdpri.com/forum/images/misc/rss.jpg Telecaster Guitar Forum http://www.tdpri.com/forum What sounds like an AC 15? http://www.tdpri.com/forum/amp-central-station/186554-what-sounds-like-ac-15-a.html Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:43:34 GMT If your willing to go close to 2K new

The Top Hat Supreme 16 it is MY favorite amp

it is a 2 channel el 84 amp based on the AC15

Both channels have hi and lo inputs

both channels have a Bright and Fat switch

both channels share a trim pot

the Top boost channel uses 3 12ax7's

has Bass Mid and treb, and Gain

The other channel is one EF86 tube of pure tone with only a Volume Control

This amp in my opinion can cross territory from Fender to 18 watt Marshall and Liverpool Vox chime on the Top boost channel

The EF 86 channel is pure Vox Tone like the monster tone of Queen, AC/DC and any Classic Vox Hard Rock Tones you could want to dial in

Rather then break it down for you this is from their web site

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The field is thick with this type of amp and a field tough to beat. We also wanted to provide this in an Aluminum chassis Head version, especially useful for those working in a studio environment. We found the Aluminum chassis brings a lot to the table, sonically. Much of this is very hard to put into words. Put simply, it is more alive or lively, presenting a more transparent sonic field.

There are two things that have come onto the market in the last year or so that allow higher levels of correct breathing tone to occur. One is the EZ81 rectifier tube. This is the original rectifier used by 18-watt Marshall's and the Vox AC15 (which our Supreme Sixteen is based on) amps. This tube has been out of production for decades, yet very necessary to feed a 2-EL84 amp the right amount of current. The other item is the Celestion Blue Alnico. It is my personal contention, not verified officially by Celestion, that the Blue Alnico has been upgraded with the "glues, parts and pieces" used on the new Heritage Series speakers, also made with the "Blue", in England. This speaker has come along way from where it has been the last 10+ years. It now allows all the great things to happen, like the originals. THIS IS A GREAT BREAK THROUGH! When we went to drawing board to design this masterpiece, we started with what we believe is the best 2-EL84 platform of all time -- the early 60's AC15.

This platform is different than an AC30 and can only be reasonably done with 2 power tubes. We also believe this platform to be superior to the 18-watt Marshall design, for a variety of reasons. We then chose to provide the EF-86 channel, with its' original fat/bright switch and single volume knob along with a second channel that has the full EQ, master volume Club Royale preamp design, with its' fat-off-bright switch. To keep the head a portable size, we moved the cut knob to the back panel. This works on both channels, as it is in the power section of the amp.

Part of the magic of this design, is the far less common use of a large choke. Simply put, this coil affects the way the amp compresses and breathes. It causes a feel unlike any other. It is very hands and ear friendly. It also matches up with the Aluminum chassis and new found papery clarity of the Blue Alnico. The Aluminum chassis has welded corners and been fully powder coated and silk-screened on the outside, utilizing no faceplates. The head and speaker cabinets are finger-joined 15mm Baltic Birch plywood, covered in two-tone vinyl with an Art Deco inlaid piping design surrounding the new style round, lit up logo.

I run it through a seperate Top Hat 2x12 cab with Celestion Blues

And a Marshall 4x12 with Greenbacks

]]> Amp Central Station Groovey Records http://www.tdpri.com/forum/amp-central-station/186554-what-sounds-like-ac-15-a.html Deluxe Reverb Speaker Shootout! http://www.tdpri.com/forum/amp-central-station/185058-deluxe-reverb-speaker-shootout.html Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:38:24 GMT A friend of mine that plays with mostly a Classic Rock type tone tried several speakers in his early 70's Deluxe Reverb and settled on the Celestion G12H30 and swears by it as being the best speaker for those amps. I'm more of a Country guy, and I've had Emi Tonkers in Fenders that I loved. ]]> Amp Central Station randysmojo http://www.tdpri.com/forum/amp-central-station/185058-deluxe-reverb-speaker-shootout.html What is the definitive Telecaster Amp? http://www.tdpri.com/forum/amp-central-station/186526-what-definitive-telecaster-amp.html Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:29:11 GMT A VC50 with a 15" speaker, hand wired in St.Louis America. This thing I have is a monster of tone and I ain't kiddin. It even makes me sound halfway decent. 4EL84's matched, and 4 atx7's I think. I would have to look again at them. 2 channels and the clean is so clean it is sparkling. Anyways BEST amp bar none I have listened to or played on. thanks ]]> Amp Central Station longbow http://www.tdpri.com/forum/amp-central-station/186526-what-definitive-telecaster-amp.html Silverface twin speaaker wiring?? http://www.tdpri.com/forum/amp-central-station/186558-silverface-twin-speaaker-wiring.html Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:25:11 GMT Folks, need some help.... have a silverface twin with JBL D120's; just got back one of the JBL's from being reconed.....had a terrible brain lapse; how should the white and black speaker leads be wired? The JBL has red and black speaker posts.......white to red; or white to black; and then red to red post (speaker to speaker) same color wire; or is it red to black post same color wire? UGH! Wired in parallel? And on top of that; I have heard that JBL's has posts that are reverse from other speakers....true? :shock::roll:

HELP?:?: ]]> Amp Central Station woody961 http://www.tdpri.com/forum/amp-central-station/186558-silverface-twin-speaaker-wiring.html Fender Blues Deville fuse blow problem http://www.tdpri.com/forum/amp-central-station/186539-fender-blues-deville-fuse-blow-problem.html Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:06:49 GMT 1. Possible stand by switch that is grounded. You need to feel comfortable on the inside of the amp. 2. Measure the resistance of the PT primary. With the amp unplugged and the power switch on you should see about 2 ohms DC resistance on the hot and neutral prong of the power cord. 3. Possible pin of the power tube socket going to ground. Check for continuity between ground and the pins of the sockets. Good Luck 1. Possible stand by switch that is grounded. You need to feel comfortable on the inside of the amp.
2. Measure the resistance of the PT primary. With the amp unplugged and the power switch on you should see about 2 ohms DC resistance on the hot and neutral prong of the power cord.
3. Possible pin of the power tube socket going to ground. Check for continuity between ground and the pins of the sockets.
Good Luck ]]> Amp Central Station backline http://www.tdpri.com/forum/amp-central-station/186539-fender-blues-deville-fuse-blow-problem.html Peavey Bravo speaker and tube recommendations http://www.tdpri.com/forum/amp-central-station/180822-peavey-bravo-speaker-tube-recommendations.html Fri, 20 Nov 2009 22:22:44 GMT Best sleeper amp out there. I love mine. I put a Cannibus Rex in, as well as some JJ's. MUCH butter.

Good job on the tolex! ]]> Amp Central Station emisilly http://www.tdpri.com/forum/amp-central-station/180822-peavey-bravo-speaker-tube-recommendations.html <![CDATA[Silvertone Twin Twelve 1484 for '72 Princeton Reverb?]]> http://www.tdpri.com/forum/amp-central-station/186546-silvertone-twin-twelve-1484-72-princeton-reverb.html Fri, 20 Nov 2009 22:08:09 GMT Well in my sick mind I'd be tuning up the Princeton and buying the Silvertone Twin for NMT $500 if in VG+ condition ]]> Amp Central Station Groovey Records http://www.tdpri.com/forum/amp-central-station/186546-silvertone-twin-twelve-1484-72-princeton-reverb.html Could Be The Ultimate Living Room Rig http://www.tdpri.com/forum/amp-central-station/186216-could-ultimate-living-room-rig.html Fri, 20 Nov 2009 21:09:18 GMT SWEET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SWEET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ]]> Amp Central Station Donnie55 http://www.tdpri.com/forum/amp-central-station/186216-could-ultimate-living-room-rig.html Speaking of the Hammond AO-35 and the Carmen Ghia... http://www.tdpri.com/forum/amp-central-station/143261-speaking-hammond-ao-35-carmen-ghia.html Fri, 20 Nov 2009 20:23:20 GMT I will soon be working on one of these as my first amp project other than fixing little things here and there, replacing electrolytics, etc. Wish me luck! I will soon be working on one of these as my first amp project other than fixing little things here and there, replacing electrolytics, etc.

Wish me luck! ]]> Amp Central Station rockinrob http://www.tdpri.com/forum/amp-central-station/143261-speaking-hammond-ao-35-carmen-ghia.html vibrochamp vibrato question http://www.tdpri.com/forum/amp-central-station/186337-vibrochamp-vibrato-question.html Fri, 20 Nov 2009 20:15:57 GMT DH82C, I wish I knew enough about electronics to know the 'why' that is the heart of your question. I will make this observation... That -34V in the Princeton circuit is the bias voltage. The trem circuit in that amp varies this bias voltage to different degrees according to the Intensity setting to achieve the effect. The VibroChamp's trem circuit is hitting a self-biasing or cathode biasing situation, also....but, as, JJmantele notes at a different point in the circuit...namely the cathode of the driver half of that 12AX7....and varying that bias point. That variance determines the output of that driver that hits the grid of the power tube. jjmantele has seemingly done some comparisons in his builds, and I am going to trust his evaluation of what is going on in a single triode versus a dual triode trem circuit. His analysis and that of Gerald WEber that led him to mod the VC for a smoother effect does leave me with the impression that in fact the VC's trem circuit does result in a stronger effect....that is, more effective in the 'on and off' of the volume variance. Choppy is WEber's word for the result of the stock VC's circuit. ]]> Amp Central Station Wally http://www.tdpri.com/forum/amp-central-station/186337-vibrochamp-vibrato-question.html different amps in recording studio http://www.tdpri.com/forum/amp-central-station/177998-different-amps-recording-studio.html Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:43:29 GMT Always take all you can to the studio. For one thing mics color sound and rooms color sound. What you hear playing in rehearsal or gig is totally different in the studio.

All amps are not suited for studios. Also one of the beauties of recording is that you can spend time looking for the perfect tones for each song, thus giving them their personality.
In the studio, everything goes. Don't be afraid to experiment.

Take all you guitars as well and fx(if any). Take the recording experience as a creative endeavor. Make the most of your songs by searching for the SOUND. Plus mixing different amps, combining mics can give you a whole new pallet of sounds. ]]> Amp Central Station Red Sun http://www.tdpri.com/forum/amp-central-station/177998-different-amps-recording-studio.html Clean tones: tube vs. SS http://www.tdpri.com/forum/amp-central-station/185821-clean-tones-tube-vs-ss.html Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:23:02 GMT

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Originally Posted by Scott S (Post 2145243)

I think that's it, too. Most of us aren't really "inspired" by the sound of a tube amp on "1" or "2" -- probably because the THD is still really low at that point, and the power supply isn't sweating at all. A solid-state amp is like that all the way up the dial. :lol:

I know that for for SS Jazz amps, at least, some companies are offering hybrid amps -- sporting a preamp with a single 12AX7 tube to supposedly "warm" the sound. Certainly this is not an expensive thing to do. For example, Jazz Kat amps has the PhatKat and the TwinKat:

which has two preamps: a SS and the 12AX7 tube one you can switch between. I've been wanted to try it out, but no dealers near me.

Another company that used to do this is Evan's Custom Amplifiers, which are popular with steel guitarists and jazz guitarists. They no longer produce a hybrid, but they have added the following knob:

BUFF: This solid state preamp control provides beautiful overtones found in tube amplifiers.

Another thing I've wondered about is if there are any pedals that I can use with a very clean (yeah, SS) amp that will give it some clean tubey warmth. I want to be able to play chords cleanly, then kick the pedal in for single lines. ]]> Amp Central Station BigDaddyLH http://www.tdpri.com/forum/amp-central-station/185821-clean-tones-tube-vs-ss.html Amp settings for clean country http://www.tdpri.com/forum/amp-central-station/186123-amp-settings-clean-country.html Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:51:49 GMT For that amp, set everything like this picture except move the dials to anything I have marked red. That will make it as clean as the amp gets. For that amp, set everything like this picture except move the dials to anything I have marked red. That will make it as clean as the amp gets.

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]]> Amp Central Station Middleman http://www.tdpri.com/forum/amp-central-station/186123-amp-settings-clean-country.html Help me fight Bugera V22 gas... http://www.tdpri.com/forum/amp-central-station/184622-help-me-fight-bugera-v22-gas.html Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:28:32 GMT

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Originally Posted by atroy (Post 2144984)

No doubt I picked a bad clip, but I guess having played it I can hear through the bad video mic, etc.

Looking forward to your clip, Will.

I should say that this amp doesn't sound like Rivera (my personal favorite) or whatever. I never expected that. But I like how it sounds for how inexpensive it is. It's almost funny the kind of junior high level of poking fun at Bugera that this has brought out.

YouTube clips can be tricky. I haven't seen an absolute accurate representation of this amp tonally yet just compare this clip to the V22/AC15 shoot out clip that's on YouTube. The tone is a polar opposite and fairly dark and laking definition. The actual sound is kinda between these 2 extremes. ]]> Amp Central Station Will Chen http://www.tdpri.com/forum/amp-central-station/184622-help-me-fight-bugera-v22-gas.html Gibson GA30RV amp rattling. Combos vs heads? http://www.tdpri.com/forum/amp-central-station/186470-gibson-ga30rv-amp-rattling-combos-vs-heads.html Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:10:02 GMT Thanks for your replies.

Il be switching preamp tubes this weeks try to find the source.

Mike- thats sometimes is the problems but i wasn't on GA15rv but i can imagine if it gets loose it will rattle like crazy. The Ga30rv has a wooden back, no grill at all. ]]> Amp Central Station Red Sun http://www.tdpri.com/forum/amp-central-station/186470-gibson-ga30rv-amp-rattling-combos-vs-heads.html Played a Fender Super 60 Yesterday http://www.tdpri.com/forum/amp-central-station/125141-played-fender-super-60-yesterday.html Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:39:39 GMT

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Originally Posted by bdgregory (Post 2139994)

I wouldn't remove the transformer, just pull the whole amp out. It will be easier - it's 4 screws and slide it out. If you remove the transformer it will be dangling by its wires, which could cause problems if you're not careful. I have the super 112 and it was pretty easy to do the speaker swap. I have the Vintage 30 in mine now and love it.

Thanks dude ]]> Amp Central Station mc_deli http://www.tdpri.com/forum/amp-central-station/125141-played-fender-super-60-yesterday.html vox ad50 vs. roland cube 60 or current varient http://www.tdpri.com/forum/amp-central-station/186510-vox-ad50-vs-roland-cube-60-current-varient.html Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:32:41 GMT has anyone compared these two amps? i have briefly looked at the vox and heard some of the tones at GC. a week or two ago i ran the sound board for a small venue and the lead used a cube 30 that surprised me. it was setting on a peavey session amp, but he stated he was only using the cube and a boss compressor. any input would be great, thanks. has anyone compared these two amps? i have briefly looked at the vox and heard some of the tones at GC. a week or two ago i ran the sound board for a small venue and the lead used a cube 30 that surprised me. it was setting on a peavey session amp, but he stated he was only using the cube and a boss compressor. any input would be great, thanks. ]]> Amp Central Station casey2910 http://www.tdpri.com/forum/amp-central-station/186510-vox-ad50-vs-roland-cube-60-current-varient.html epiphone blues custom 30 tube schemo http://www.tdpri.com/forum/amp-central-station/186061-epiphone-blues-custom-30-tube-schemo.html Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:05:16 GMT ---Quote (Originally by jefrs)--- I was the guy on the Epi forum... but then my standby switch was arcing and did destroy itself. ---End Quote--- Sorry jefrs - I should have checked to see if you were over here too. Thanks for all the BC30 info though both here and over at the Epi forum.

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Originally Posted by jefrs (Post 2144241)

I was the guy on the Epi forum... but then my standby switch was arcing and did destroy itself.

Sorry jefrs - I should have checked to see if you were over here too. Thanks for all the BC30 info though both here and over at the Epi forum. ]]> Amp Central Station wildschwein http://www.tdpri.com/forum/amp-central-station/186061-epiphone-blues-custom-30-tube-schemo.html pulled the trigger, ordered a vox night train head http://www.tdpri.com/forum/amp-central-station/186498-pulled-trigger-ordered-vox-night-train-head.html Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:58:42 GMT Mine is like heaven through my 12" cannabis rex speaker. It was WAY too harsh through my Celestion Vintage 30 I had before. I started a post about that somewhere around here. ]]> Amp Central Station spauldingrules http://www.tdpri.com/forum/amp-central-station/186498-pulled-trigger-ordered-vox-night-train-head.html Sold my JC-120... now what? http://www.tdpri.com/forum/amp-central-station/185959-sold-my-jc-120-now-what.html Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:55:01 GMT yeah the cubes don't do a perfect JC sound..but the JC Clean is my favorite model on the cubes... followed by the Brit combo if needing a little grit. like i said, i loaned out my cube60 with no intention of ever asking for it back.. but i do still have a little microcube that i use for random recording stuff from time to time. the cubes are decent..i'm just not into modeling stuff much.. ]]> Amp Central Station popthree http://www.tdpri.com/forum/amp-central-station/185959-sold-my-jc-120-now-what.html