The Train Wreck that is American Idol - Page 14

FirstBassman · May 1st, 2008, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by WisconsinStrings

Anyone know what the rumors Seacrest mentioned are? I'm assuming AI letting Paula go?

Yeah, that was pretty vague, wasn't it.
But I also assume it was something along those lines.

Apparently Paula was on Seacrest's radio show yesterday explaining what happened. Quotes from it are in the Wash. Post and makes no sense at all. What a surprise.

IronJoe · May 1st, 2008, 09:12 AM

Sad to see Brooke go. I thought she had the best tone out of the bunch. I think she suffered because she isn't much of a performer -- not that any of the others are either. A little time with a choreographer would have done a world of good. Or maybe if she'd sported this look....

odiemann · May 1st, 2008, 09:42 AM

This brings us closer to an early theory that they are really looking for a male replacement. The voting lag is now getting predictable. The past four weeks have all been pretty much the weakest person who received a chiding from Simon the week before with one exception. Brooke needed a massive week to overcome last time with the lyric failure.

They all but crowned David Cook this week. He has to blow up to lose. Some of the fun is gone for me. The talent pool is really shallow this year. The producers are rigging the game to some degree. Paula's comments from the notes demonstrates that. Simon's demeanor during Brooke's performance was indicative of his desire.

jwc5 · May 1st, 2008, 10:11 AM

I thought Ryan said at the beginning of the show that the five would sing both songs and then the judges would make comments. Then, after the first song, Ryan asked the judges to comment. No wonder poor little Paula got confused. Could it be that Seacrest may have screwed up also?
Cook is the winner. Turn out the lights and forget about the remaining shows. I'm bored.

McFly · May 1st, 2008, 12:32 PM

yes, it's been said, but I don't know Archuletta is still there? Must be the teenie bopper votes. Every song he sings, comes of like the song in a kids moving that plays during the closing credits after the uplifting ending.

63dot · May 1st, 2008, 12:39 PM

archuletta is still there and probably the favorite to win it all

i like david cook myself as he is more seasoned even though his voice is only mediocre

cook does the grunge thing to perfection but when he's not doing something like grunge, he's kind of out of his element

archuletta, while a pop star type of singer, and common as all the pop star voices are and uninteresting per se, can actually hit the notes and runs that the others lack

i thought carly simonson had the skills but she got voted off earlier than i thought since i was sure she would come in third place behind cook and archuletta

this season may come down to an anticipated ending with the more original david cook vs. the pure singer that david archuletta is

while cook will probably remain where he is, archuletta is young and will grow very nicely into his voice and be like a james taylor, but more in a teenie bopper pop star vein

those are my guesses from about the first time the final 12 were chosen

hekawi · May 1st, 2008, 12:59 PM

Brooke White going home last night holds true to the sort of delayed reaction syndrome of the voters that's been happening....contestants getting the boot a week after they should have. last week's false-start incident doomed Brooke to her fate this week. next week: Jason

and notice Ryan never said Brooke and Syesha were the "bottom two", just that one of them was "leaving us"....for all we know Syesha could've gotten more votes than any of the guys who were safe.

at least next week we won't be subjected to the famous mentor/coach thing...the contestants will pick from a list of "groundbreaking" songs provided by the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame.

63dot · May 1st, 2008, 01:22 PM

syesha has definitely improved and i think she can beat jason castro but has little chance against the two davids

if something amazing happens and syesha lands a song or two perfectly then maybe she can beat david cook, but with all the teenie girl fans, it would be hard to see her surpass david archuletta

syesha is basically decent as a vocalist but does not have the intense power of kelly clarkson or fantasia

IronJoe · May 1st, 2008, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by jwc5

Could it be that Seacrest may have screwed up also?

Apparently Seacrest addressed this on his radio show. I read about it on EW.com.

The plan was to have the judges only comment after both songs. However, at the halfway point, one of the FOX executives called and said he wanted the judges to critique after the first song. The show was already running a couple minutes over schedule, but they ushered everyone back out on the stage to get some feedback (you could tell this was haphazard).

So Seacrest throws it to the judges, and Randy handled it pretty well although he was long-winded about it. Obviously, Paula's not so good on her feet and she panicked. The look of fear on everyone's face and the uncomfortable giggling from the crowd was a classic TV moment.

Personally, I believe that she probably listened to the rehearsal and had some notes from it. I don't really think it's that big of a deal -- but it kind of sucks that the kids are being judged on how well they rehearse instead of the performance itself.

Mark Davis · May 1st, 2008, 02:32 PM

I think Paula had scripted notes to read the producers gave her and she got David Cooks notes mixed uo with Jasons. It was a live show and she had really only heard 1 song the pre written notes and different format of the show is what threw Paula.

Fendrcaster · May 1st, 2008, 02:51 PM

I was sorry to see Brooke leave, I like her voice and her sincerity. Among the remaining contestants, I'd like to see Syesha win it all. Jason and David Cook are too much of a one trick pony and I just don't like David Archuletta!

emu! · May 1st, 2008, 02:55 PM

I'm keepin' my fingers crossed and hoping that the 3 judges (and Seacrest) have contractual disputes next year, and are replaced.

New judges:

Snoop Dog
Paris Hilton
Satan himself

New MC:

Sanjaya

ROADMAN · May 1st, 2008, 03:05 PM

emu!..you are one sick puppy... thank god we have many

sultan59 · May 1st, 2008, 04:21 PM

I wonder if Brooke cries after sex? She sure cries a lot...

Jake D · May 1st, 2008, 04:42 PM

I have to give it up for the local boy! David Cook is from Kansas City and I would like to see him do well. Partly for KC, partly for his poor brother (who is really sick) and partly because he has a good voice and plays guitar.

mudbean · May 1st, 2008, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark Davis

I think Paula had scripted notes to read the producers gave her and she got David Cooks notes mixed uo with Jasons. It was a live show and she had really only heard 1 song the pre written notes and different format of the show is what threw Paula.

Perhaps ... or, maybe she just watched the dress rehearsal and wrote her notes then.

mud

getbent · May 1st, 2008, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by sultan59

I wonder if Brooke cries after sex? She sure cries a lot...

I dig girls who do that! I knew a girl once that.... oh sorry...

American Idol--> not worth watching without KLC. We watched the Giant game instead.

WisconsinStrings · May 1st, 2008, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by getbent

I dig girls who do that! I knew a girl once that.... oh sorry...

American Idol--> not worth watching without KLC. We watched the Giant game instead.

Whoops for you. She was there last week. Several shots of her in the crowd. Still looking mighty fine too. :)

crawdad · May 2nd, 2008, 12:16 AM

While David Archuletta may be the best "pure" singer of the bunch, he's not an artist and he's about as interesting as watching paint dry. Once you've heard one performance, all the rest sound exactly the same. I can't imagine a whole CD of his performances. I dunno. He's technically perfect, but for me, he's also boring for the most part. Send him to musicals. He will do well there. I liked him at first, but I soon grew very tired of his act.

Syesha belongs in musicals. She's perfect for that stuff. She's not an artist either, in terms of current music, though she's very, very good. She doesn't seem to fit into the current mainstream and I don't think she'd sell records.

Jason? Pleasant and totally forgettable--unless he connects with some material that has sone cajones. He hasn't done that yet, so I expect he will be gone soon.

Brooke White--well, she's gone, but if I were a producer, I'd like to hear her original songs. If they were good, I'd take a chance on producing a record with her. She's not the technical singer that the others are, but she has an honesty and vulnerability that I think could work for her. She isn't meant to be singing Neil Diamond covers, that's for sure.

David Cook, out of all of them, is the only person with any artistic vision that works with the present market. He's the only new millenium artist of the bunch--everybody else is stuck in the 70's. He's not as good, as far as "pure" singers go, as David A, but he communicates much better and is able to make songs interesting. His song selections and what he's done with them is far superior to any of the others, IMO. He has the ability to make a song relevant and interesting, which is why he should win.

I expect David A to win, but I think he will go nowhere commercially. David C can sell records and be an artist. Now its just a matter of seeing how America votes and thats a process that I don't have a lot of faith in, frankly. I guess we will know soon enough.

jackleg · May 2nd, 2008, 05:36 AM

i wouldn't buy, or even listen to, any of their c.d.s......

Beerts · May 2nd, 2008, 07:44 AM

I think that you can not know much about an artist till you see them doing original material... it's all Kareoke to me!

ROADMAN · May 2nd, 2008, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by crawdad

While David Archuletta may be the best "pure" singer of the bunch, he's not an artist and he's about as interesting as watching paint dry. Once you've heard one performance, all the rest sound exactly the same. I can't imagine a whole CD of his performances. I dunno. He's technically perfect, but for me, he's also boring for the most part. Send him to musicals. He will do well there. I liked him at first, but I soon grew very tired of his act.

Syesha belongs in musicals. She's perfect for that stuff. She's not an artist either, in terms of current music, though she's very, very good. She doesn't seem to fit into the current mainstream and I don't think she'd sell records.

Jason? Pleasant and totally forgettable--unless he connects with some material that has sone cajones. He hasn't done that yet, so I expect he will be gone soon.

Brooke White--well, she's gone, but if I were a producer, I'd like to hear her original songs. If they were good, I'd take a chance on producing a record with her. She's not the technical singer that the others are, but she has an honesty and vulnerability that I think could work for her. She isn't meant to be singing Neil Diamond covers, that's for sure.

David Cook, out of all of them, is the only person with any artistic vision that works with the present market. He's the only new millenium artist of the bunch--everybody else is stuck in the 70's. He's not as good, as far as "pure" singers go, as David A, but he communicates much better and is able to make songs interesting. His song selections and what he's done with them is far superior to any of the others, IMO. He has the ability to make a song relevant and interesting, which is why he should win.

I expect David A to win, but I think he will go nowhere commercially. David C can sell records and be an artist. Now its just a matter of seeing how America votes and thats a process that I don't have a lot of faith in, frankly. I guess we will know soon enough.

I couldn't have said it better myself...sure hope your wrong about
David A. winning though...he gives me the Tray Aiken flip the channel quick
twitches...

serialsteve · May 2nd, 2008, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by sultan59

I wonder if Brooke cries after sex? She sure cries a lot...

I'd guess more that it was BEFORE. I don't know that she gets much "after".

David A. annoys the piss out of me. He blows and the judges still give him a pass-he was not even mediocre this week. Ugh.

63dot · May 5th, 2008, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ROADMAN

I couldn't have said it better myself...sure hope your wrong about
David A. winning though...he gives me the Tray Aiken flip the channel quick
twitches...

for david a, look at who is in a the audience and if they are any indication of who text messages and calls in and votes then i think david a has it all sewn up

somebody not teen idol like, or catering to the teens has to be great like ruben or taylor to get past looks and teenage marketability

May 1st, 2008, 09:42 AM	#523 (permalink)
odiemann Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Denver Age: 41 Posts: 1,406	One step closer This brings us closer to an early theory that they are really looking for a male replacement. The voting lag is now getting predictable. The past four weeks have all been pretty much the weakest person who received a chiding from Simon the week before with one exception. Brooke needed a massive week to overcome last time with the lyric failure. They all but crowned David Cook this week. He has to blow up to lose. Some of the fun is gone for me. The talent pool is really shallow this year. The producers are rigging the game to some degree. Paula's comments from the notes demonstrates that. Simon's demeanor during Brooke's performance was indicative of his desire. __________________ It just got better, I think

May 1st, 2008, 12:32 PM	#525 (permalink)
McFly Tele-Meister Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: New York Age: 33 Posts: 145	yes, it's been said, but I don't know Archuletta is still there? Must be the teenie bopper votes. Every song he sings, comes of like the song in a kids moving that plays during the closing credits after the uplifting ending. __________________ "Ahh...this is a blues riff in B, watch me for the changes, and try and keep up."

May 1st, 2008, 12:59 PM	#527 (permalink)
hekawi Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: greenville, sc Posts: 1,856	Brooke White going home last night holds true to the sort of delayed reaction syndrome of the voters that's been happening....contestants getting the boot a week after they should have. last week's false-start incident doomed Brooke to her fate this week. next week: Jason and notice Ryan never said Brooke and Syesha were the "bottom two", just that one of them was "leaving us"....for all we know Syesha could've gotten more votes than any of the guys who were safe. at least next week we won't be subjected to the famous mentor/coach thing...the contestants will pick from a list of "groundbreaking" songs provided by the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame. __________________ ____________________________________________ "Rule Number One: Obey All Rules" - Barney Fife

May 1st, 2008, 02:32 PM	#530 (permalink)
Mark Davis Doctor of Teleocity Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Bakersfield Ca. Age: 57 Posts: 11,812	I think Paula had scripted notes to read the producers gave her and she got David Cooks notes mixed uo with Jasons. It was a live show and she had really only heard 1 song the pre written notes and different format of the show is what threw Paula. __________________ I'm so blind my seeing eye dog needs glasses.

May 2nd, 2008, 12:16 AM	#539 (permalink)
crawdad Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,247	While David Archuletta may be the best "pure" singer of the bunch, he's not an artist and he's about as interesting as watching paint dry. Once you've heard one performance, all the rest sound exactly the same. I can't imagine a whole CD of his performances. I dunno. He's technically perfect, but for me, he's also boring for the most part. Send him to musicals. He will do well there. I liked him at first, but I soon grew very tired of his act. Syesha belongs in musicals. She's perfect for that stuff. She's not an artist either, in terms of current music, though she's very, very good. She doesn't seem to fit into the current mainstream and I don't think she'd sell records. Jason? Pleasant and totally forgettable--unless he connects with some material that has sone cajones. He hasn't done that yet, so I expect he will be gone soon. Brooke White--well, she's gone, but if I were a producer, I'd like to hear her original songs. If they were good, I'd take a chance on producing a record with her. She's not the technical singer that the others are, but she has an honesty and vulnerability that I think could work for her. She isn't meant to be singing Neil Diamond covers, that's for sure. David Cook, out of all of them, is the only person with any artistic vision that works with the present market. He's the only new millenium artist of the bunch--everybody else is stuck in the 70's. He's not as good, as far as "pure" singers go, as David A, but he communicates much better and is able to make songs interesting. His song selections and what he's done with them is far superior to any of the others, IMO. He has the ability to make a song relevant and interesting, which is why he should win. I expect David A to win, but I think he will go nowhere commercially. David C can sell records and be an artist. Now its just a matter of seeing how America votes and thats a process that I don't have a lot of faith in, frankly. I guess we will know soon enough. __________________ "The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball. America has rolled by like an army of steamrollers. It's been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt and erased again. But baseball has marked the time. This field, this game, is a part of our past, Ray. It reminds us of all that once was good, and that could be again. Oh, people will come, Ray. People will most definitely come."

May 1st, 2008, 09:12 AM	#522 (permalink)
IronJoe Tele-Meister Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Raleigh, NC Age: 32 Posts: 392	Sad to see Brooke go. I thought she had the best tone out of the bunch. I think she suffered because she isn't much of a performer -- not that any of the others are either. A little time with a choreographer would have done a world of good. Or maybe if she'd sported this look....

May 1st, 2008, 10:11 AM	#524 (permalink)
jwc5 Tele-Meister Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Ft. Worth Posts: 193	I thought Ryan said at the beginning of the show that the five would sing both songs and then the judges would make comments. Then, after the first song, Ryan asked the judges to comment. No wonder poor little Paula got confused. Could it be that Seacrest may have screwed up also? Cook is the winner. Turn out the lights and forget about the remaining shows. I'm bored.

May 1st, 2008, 12:39 PM	#526 (permalink)
63dot Tele-Holic Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: earth Posts: 884	archuletta is still there and probably the favorite to win it all i like david cook myself as he is more seasoned even though his voice is only mediocre cook does the grunge thing to perfection but when he's not doing something like grunge, he's kind of out of his element archuletta, while a pop star type of singer, and common as all the pop star voices are and uninteresting per se, can actually hit the notes and runs that the others lack i thought carly simonson had the skills but she got voted off earlier than i thought since i was sure she would come in third place behind cook and archuletta this season may come down to an anticipated ending with the more original david cook vs. the pure singer that david archuletta is while cook will probably remain where he is, archuletta is young and will grow very nicely into his voice and be like a james taylor, but more in a teenie bopper pop star vein those are my guesses from about the first time the final 12 were chosen

May 1st, 2008, 01:22 PM	#528 (permalink)
63dot Tele-Holic Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: earth Posts: 884	syesha has definitely improved and i think she can beat jason castro but has little chance against the two davids if something amazing happens and syesha lands a song or two perfectly then maybe she can beat david cook, but with all the teenie girl fans, it would be hard to see her surpass david archuletta syesha is basically decent as a vocalist but does not have the intense power of kelly clarkson or fantasia

May 1st, 2008, 02:51 PM	#531 (permalink)
Fendrcaster Tele-Meister Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Milledgeville, Georgia by way of Md. Age: 58 Posts: 357	I was sorry to see Brooke leave, I like her voice and her sincerity. Among the remaining contestants, I'd like to see Syesha win it all. Jason and David Cook are too much of a one trick pony and I just don't like David Archuletta!

May 1st, 2008, 02:55 PM	#532 (permalink)
emu! Tele-Holic Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Runnin' from the law Posts: 822	I'm keepin' my fingers crossed and hoping that the 3 judges (and Seacrest) have contractual disputes next year, and are replaced. New judges: Snoop Dog Paris Hilton Satan himself New MC: Sanjaya

May 1st, 2008, 03:05 PM	#533 (permalink)
ROADMAN Tele-Holic Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: delta b.c. canada Age: 53 Posts: 825	emu!..you are one sick puppy... thank god we have many

May 1st, 2008, 04:21 PM	#534 (permalink)
sultan59 Tele-Meister Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Whidbey Island Age: 49 Posts: 348	I wonder if Brooke cries after sex? She sure cries a lot...

May 1st, 2008, 04:42 PM	#535 (permalink)
Jake D Tele-Meister Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 108	I have to give it up for the local boy! David Cook is from Kansas City and I would like to see him do well. Partly for KC, partly for his poor brother (who is really sick) and partly because he has a good voice and plays guitar.

May 2nd, 2008, 05:36 AM	#540 (permalink)
jackleg TDPRI Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 73	i wouldn't buy, or even listen to, any of their c.d.s......

May 2nd, 2008, 07:44 AM	#541 (permalink)
Beerts TDPRI Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Freeport Illinois Age: 47 Posts: 79	I think that you can not know much about an artist till you see them doing original material... it's all Kareoke to me!