Beer

Stefan · January 6th, 2008, 02:34 PM

I was wondering the other day about the alcohol % in beer in other countries.

Here in Sweden we something called "lättöl", (lightbeer) and it has about 2,25% alcohol. You can drink it with lunch and still be able to work, drive a car and please your girl.

The we have folköl (folkbeer

probably a bad translation) it contains 2,8% to 3,5% alcohol.

The stronger stuff, starköl, contains from 4,5% up to 10% alcohol.

What´s it like in other countries?

Tim Armstrong · January 6th, 2008, 02:40 PM

Yeah, we have similar things. Light beer is around 3.2%, regular American lager is in the same range as your folkbeer, and "malt liquor" is stronger. That's just from the mainstream brewers, we also have craft brewers making pretty much any kind of beer imaginable!

Cheers, Tim

adylan76 · January 6th, 2008, 02:43 PM

Here in the US, most lager-type beers are around 3.5%. As you get into ales, you run approximately 4.5%-5.5%. From there, you can go into various specialty brews, like Barleywines, Imperial Stouts, and Christmas beers, which may go past 10%.

These are just ballpark figures. For the most part, if you're near a decent beer store in the US, you can drink whatever strength of beer that you want. But in general, most people drink macro-brewed lagers and light beers, which will be in the 3% zone.

Tim Armstrong · January 6th, 2008, 02:49 PM

I'd note that the percentages I mentioned are alcohol by weight. But the beer sold in liquor stores is labeled by volume, and most beer is about 5 percent alcohol by volume. But when you convert from weight to volume you find that the "3.2" beer is really 4 percent alcohol by volume.

Utterly FWIW!

Cheers, Tim

woodman · January 6th, 2008, 02:52 PM

most of the popular beers here are actually what i call "a beer-like substance." thank god for microbreweries!

casterway · January 6th, 2008, 02:52 PM

Generally 5-7% in Canada, for 'normal' beer. 3.5-4% for 'light' (diet) beer.

casterway · January 6th, 2008, 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by woodman

most of the popular beers here are actually what i call "a beer-like substance." thank god for microbreweries!

True dat! Even up here, the major's (Molson, Labatt's) make 'industrial beer'.
Good Canadian beer comes from Sleeman's, Moosehead or microbreweries like Granville Island.

From the states, I do like Sam Adams Boston Lager. Yumm!

Apok · January 6th, 2008, 03:17 PM

The only Molson product I can drink is called India, I'm not sure if it's available nation-wide or just from the brewery in St John's.

Sleeman's is my favourite Canadian beer, I'll usually buy the variety case. I think I've been a bit spoiled after spending 3 months in the UK though. Spitfire is some fantastic beer though.

Steve G · January 6th, 2008, 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Apok

Sleeman's is my favourite Canadian beer, I'll usually buy the variety case. I think I've been a bit spoiled after spending 3 months in the UK though. Spitfire is some fantastic beer though.

Spitfire is awesome!

Shephards naeme brewery in Kent.

Apok · January 6th, 2008, 03:50 PM

I brought back a pint bottle, I just wish it was available here

I spent many a night in a pub in Harlow drinking pints of Spitfire while the rest of my classmates moaned about the lack of Molson Canadian...heathens

Big John · January 6th, 2008, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Apok

I spent many a night in a pub in Harlow drinking pints of Spitfire while the rest of my classmates moaned about the lack of Molson Canadian...heathens......

Now there's a sentence i never thought i would see on the TDPRI !!

Tim Armstrong · January 6th, 2008, 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big John

Now there's a sentence i never thought i would see on the TDPRI !!

That was wonderful, Big John!!!!

Now I want to try a Spitfire!

Cheers, Tim

e-merlin · January 6th, 2008, 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adylan76

But in general, most people drink macro-brewed lagers and light beers...

I'd say you're way off here. Most people? I think statistics would prove you wrong. That's why they are called "micro-breweries."

Count me among those proud to drink with the masses. I'm an Old Milwaukee guy.

Also, the term "light beer" refers to the lower-calorie beers, at least here in the USA.

Jef · January 6th, 2008, 06:48 PM

In Belgium, the standard is ca 5,2% for 'pils'/lager (Jupiler, Stella Artois, etc...). I never drunk beer with less %... they do exist though...Lighter beers are not very popular over here. You do not want to be caught in a pub with a glass of Jupiler Blue (3,3%), Stella Light (3,4%) Jupiler NA (0,5%) Tourtel (no alcohol) or something in your hand...
We have some nice beers from several Belgian abbeys, most revered are the seven Trappist ales (Achel, Chimay, Orval, Rochefort, Westmalle, Westvleteren, La Trappe). They are between 5% and 11,3%. My favourite is the blue label Chimay (9%)

TelecasterBlooz · January 6th, 2008, 07:03 PM

http://www.beer100.com/beercalories.htm

You might surprised at how much alcohol your beer REALLY has...

RomanS · January 6th, 2008, 07:48 PM

5.2-5.4% for most beers over here in Austria; we do have a few light beers with about 4.5% (not very popular, though), and we also have some stronger stuff, called "Bockbier".

Nick JD · January 6th, 2008, 07:54 PM

In Australia, beer is 4.9% or 4.8% by volume. I'm thinking that the next tax bracket is 5.0% inclusive to make them all be a whisker under 5.

In NZ 4.0% is more the norm.

The "mid-strength" beers are getting very popular nowadays. Most are in the low 3s.

Alcohol is a large part of the flavour. Anything over 6% starts to detract from the flavour making it taste like liquid farts. Taste some of England's Tennants Super ... 9% and disgusting! Under 4% it tastes a little washed-out.

Steve McGinnis · January 6th, 2008, 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by e-merlin

I'd say you're way off here. Most people? I think statistics would prove you wrong. That's why they are called "micro-breweries."

Count me among those proud to drink with the masses. I'm an Old Milwaukee guy.

Also, the term "light beer" refers to the lower-calorie beers, at least here in the USA.

He wrote most people drink MACRO-Brewed, ie Bud, Miller, etc...

emu! · January 6th, 2008, 09:35 PM

Remember the wine cooler craze? When the wine coolers first came out (80's I think), they had ALOT of alcohol by volume. The only problem was they had so much alcohol that bars where required to have a beer license AND a liquor license to sell them. The wine cooler companies dropped thier alcohol content to fall within the beer catagories, and wine coolers became a lost cause.

e-merlin · January 6th, 2008, 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve McGinnis

He wrote most people drink MACRO-Brewed, ie Bud, Miller, etc...

Oops, my bad. But...

That stuff is far from macro. It's mass produced. And delicious...

casterway · January 6th, 2008, 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jef

In Belgium, the standard is ca 5,2% for 'pils'/lager (Jupiler, Stella Artois, etc...). I never drunk beer with less %... they do exist though...Lighter beers are not very popular over here. You do not want to be caught in a pub with a glass of Jupiler Blue (3,3%), Stella Light (3,4%) Jupiler NA (0,5%) Tourtel (no alcohol) or something in your hand...
We have some nice beers from several Belgian abbeys, most revered are the seven Trappist ales (Achel, Chimay, Orval, Rochefort, Westmalle, Westvleteren, La Trappe). They are between 5% and 11,3%. My favourite is the blue label Chimay (9%)

Mmmmmmm....Stella Artois.....since 1366. Yum. I did try a Duval once, though, knocked me on my butt

I think it's about 8%

Tremo · January 7th, 2008, 04:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by woodman

most of the popular beers here are actually what i call "a beer-like substance." thank god for microbreweries!

I couldn't agree more. I don't understand how people can drink swill like Buttwiper.

outbreak · January 7th, 2008, 05:47 AM

4%-5% here

Nick Fanis · January 7th, 2008, 05:51 AM

All the commercial Greek "beers" are 4,5%.
They are probably the worst beers in the world,drink at your own risk!!

outbreak · January 7th, 2008, 06:17 AM

they'd have to be better then fosters......god i hate that **** but supposably its the most exported australian brew

Nick Fanis · January 7th, 2008, 06:22 AM

No trust me,a single Greek "AMSTEL" beer will send the innocent tourist straight to the hospital :) :)

superchicken_VI · January 7th, 2008, 09:06 AM

As I live 15 minutes or so away from Woodman, I'd have to agree that around these parts it is a beer-like substance that is most consumed. Bud Light. Ugh.

High-gravity beer just became legal in North Carolina about 2 years ago, so before that 5.5% was the highest legally sold in the state. Now, we have quite a few of the 9% floating around. There's a great German restaurant a few towns over that serves Spaten Optimator, which is a very nice high-gravity on tap.

I drink Guinness as my normal beer, but I also like to venture out quite a bit.

Tele-evangelist · January 7th, 2008, 10:24 AM

Guinness for me; and speaking of offbeat beer ads, here's one of my favorites:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3W-TYgq00o

Tim

Bruce_99 · January 7th, 2008, 10:38 AM

I´m from Germany- so i go for Beck's beer

http://it.youtube.com/watch?v=jMydQY...eature=related

serialsteve · January 7th, 2008, 10:44 AM

I'm a big fan of different stouts, but lately, I've had a case of Stella Artois around on a regular basis.

Of course, my one true beer love will always be National Bohemian.

Sadly, I'm not joking!

adylan76 · January 7th, 2008, 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by e-merlin

I'd say you're way off here. Most people? I think statistics would prove you wrong. That's why they are called "micro-breweries."

Count me among those proud to drink with the masses. I'm an Old Milwaukee guy.

Also, the term "light beer" refers to the lower-calorie beers, at least here in the USA.

Merlin - I think you misread my original post - I said most people drink macros, not micros. I waited tables in bars and brewpubs for years, and in my experience, I'd sell 10 lagers for every micro/craft/specialty brew. So, I think we're actually in agreement.

blue metalflake · January 7th, 2008, 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tele-evangelist

Guinness for me; and speaking of offbeat beer ads, here's one of my favorites:

Hard to beat the demon "Black Beer" - curiously I've no idea what its alcohol content is.

hollowman · January 7th, 2008, 07:39 PM

the craft brewed big ales are starting to get a lot of popularity. The local brewery, Boulevard, has a new line of Belgian style ales out that range from 8 to 12%! definitely sippin' beer...

interesting history, in WWII, while under grain rationing, the big American lager brewers like Coors, Bud, Schlitz, etc, made lighter beers i.e., beers with less malt signature. And guess what, they found that the lighter they made their lagers, the more beer they sold!! so here we are today, with huge amounts of tasteless beer being swilled in the U.S. I for one am happy that we now have a huge selection of good, traditional style, beers to choose from, both imported and local

Cheers!

Tim Armstrong · January 7th, 2008, 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blue metalflake

Hard to beat the demon "Black Beer" - curiously I've no idea what its alcohol content is.

If you're talking about Guiness Draft, it's surprisingly low in both alcohol and calories (mostly because the alcohol in beer accounts for most of the calories!). It's right around the same as a Bud Light.

Several times as flavorful, though!

The bottled Guiness Extra Stout is considerably stronger...

Cheers, Tim

modelo dos · January 8th, 2008, 12:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tele-evangelist

Guinness for me

+1

I'm surprised no one has mentioned Iron City or Goebels yet...ah, the things I drank in college and will never drink again...

TeleBrew · January 8th, 2008, 12:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by e-merlin

Oops, my bad. But...

That stuff is far from macro. It's mass produced. And delicious...

Macro = mass produced, as in really large quantities, really large breweries

garytelecastor · January 8th, 2008, 12:29 AM

I am going to europe.

boneyguy · January 8th, 2008, 04:14 AM

Years ago when I lived in Toronto I used to treat myself to Watneys Red Barrel but I haven't seen it out west here. Man that was some good stuff.

Thank god for all the local micro brews!!!!

Big John · January 8th, 2008, 05:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boneyguy

Years ago when I lived in Toronto I used to treat myself to Watneys Red Barrel but I haven't seen it out west here. Man that was some good stuff.

He he he, anyone else from the UK thinking "hold on, are there TWO Watneys Red Barrel ??"

Clive Hugh · January 8th, 2008, 06:41 AM

Whilst on the subject of beer, I am about to go to India for a few weeks and in the "Lonely Planet" it says "Indian Beer often contains the preservative glycerol which can cause headaches. To avoid the thumping head open the bottle and quickly tip it upside down, with the top immersed, into a full glass of water. An oily film (glycerol) descends into the water - when this stops remove the bottle and enjoy a glycerol-free beer" Ye Gods! has anyone any experience of this? I can visualise the Delhi Belly with a headache.
Clive

January 6th, 2008, 02:34 PM	#1 (permalink)
Stefan Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Sweden Age: 30 Posts: 1,829 36 Photos	Beer I was wondering the other day about the alcohol % in beer in other countries. Here in Sweden we something called "lättöl", (lightbeer) and it has about 2,25% alcohol. You can drink it with lunch and still be able to work, drive a car and please your girl. The we have folköl (folkbeer probably a bad translation) it contains 2,8% to 3,5% alcohol. The stronger stuff, starköl, contains from 4,5% up to 10% alcohol. What´s it like in other countries? __________________ 1981 Capri Orange Fender Telecaster 1976 Fender Stratocaster 2007 Martin Backpacker 2006 Martin HD-28

January 6th, 2008, 02:40 PM	#2 (permalink)
Tim Armstrong Moderator Doctor of Teleocity Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Ocean Pines, Maryland, USA Age: 50 Posts: 13,152	Yeah, we have similar things. Light beer is around 3.2%, regular American lager is in the same range as your folkbeer, and "malt liquor" is stronger. That's just from the mainstream brewers, we also have craft brewers making pretty much any kind of beer imaginable! Cheers, Tim __________________ http://www.moodswingers.org

January 6th, 2008, 02:49 PM	#4 (permalink)
Tim Armstrong Moderator Doctor of Teleocity Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Ocean Pines, Maryland, USA Age: 50 Posts: 13,152	I'd note that the percentages I mentioned are alcohol by weight. But the beer sold in liquor stores is labeled by volume, and most beer is about 5 percent alcohol by volume. But when you convert from weight to volume you find that the "3.2" beer is really 4 percent alcohol by volume. Utterly FWIW! Cheers, Tim __________________ http://www.moodswingers.org

January 6th, 2008, 02:52 PM	#5 (permalink)
woodman Poster Extraordinaire Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mint Hill, NC Age: 63 Posts: 8,128	most of the popular beers here are actually what i call "a beer-like substance." thank god for microbreweries! __________________ Truth is stranger than fact ... www.myspace.com/stragglerswing (Woody & the Stragglers - Western Swing/Roots-rock)

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casterway Friend of Leo's Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Aldergrove, British Columbia,Canada Age: 41 Posts: 4,120	Generally 5-7% in Canada, for 'normal' beer. 3.5-4% for 'light' (diet) beer. __________________ If Meg White can call herself a musician, then so can I.

January 6th, 2008, 02:43 PM	#3 (permalink)
adylan76 TDPRI Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Brooklyn Posts: 88	Here in the US, most lager-type beers are around 3.5%. As you get into ales, you run approximately 4.5%-5.5%. From there, you can go into various specialty brews, like Barleywines, Imperial Stouts, and Christmas beers, which may go past 10%. These are just ballpark figures. For the most part, if you're near a decent beer store in the US, you can drink whatever strength of beer that you want. But in general, most people drink macro-brewed lagers and light beers, which will be in the 3% zone.

January 6th, 2008, 03:17 PM	#8 (permalink)
Apok Tele-Meister Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Newfoundland Age: 22 Posts: 116	The only Molson product I can drink is called India, I'm not sure if it's available nation-wide or just from the brewery in St John's. Sleeman's is my favourite Canadian beer, I'll usually buy the variety case. I think I've been a bit spoiled after spending 3 months in the UK though. Spitfire is some fantastic beer though.

January 6th, 2008, 03:50 PM	#10 (permalink)
Apok Tele-Meister Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Newfoundland Age: 22 Posts: 116	I brought back a pint bottle, I just wish it was available here I spent many a night in a pub in Harlow drinking pints of Spitfire while the rest of my classmates moaned about the lack of Molson Canadian...heathens

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Jef Tele-Holic Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Antwerp, Belgium Posts: 760 8 Photos	In Belgium, the standard is ca 5,2% for 'pils'/lager (Jupiler, Stella Artois, etc...). I never drunk beer with less %... they do exist though...Lighter beers are not very popular over here. You do not want to be caught in a pub with a glass of Jupiler Blue (3,3%), Stella Light (3,4%) Jupiler NA (0,5%) Tourtel (no alcohol) or something in your hand... We have some nice beers from several Belgian abbeys, most revered are the seven Trappist ales (Achel, Chimay, Orval, Rochefort, Westmalle, Westvleteren, La Trappe). They are between 5% and 11,3%. My favourite is the blue label Chimay (9%)

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TelecasterBlooz Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: New Lisbon, WI Age: 50 Posts: 1,065	http://www.beer100.com/beercalories.htm You might surprised at how much alcohol your beer REALLY has... __________________ Leo Fender got it right the first time...(Telecaster)

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RomanS Friend of Leo's Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Vienna, Austria Age: 37 Posts: 4,122 22 Photos	5.2-5.4% for most beers over here in Austria; we do have a few light beers with about 4.5% (not very popular, though), and we also have some stronger stuff, called "Bockbier". __________________ http://www.myspace.com/romans212 http://www.myspace.com/theneatpickers http://www.thomassoulriverband.com/

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Nick JD Friend of Leo's Join Date: May 2007 Location: North NSW, Australia Age: 37 Posts: 4,861	In Australia, beer is 4.9% or 4.8% by volume. I'm thinking that the next tax bracket is 5.0% inclusive to make them all be a whisker under 5. In NZ 4.0% is more the norm. The "mid-strength" beers are getting very popular nowadays. Most are in the low 3s. Alcohol is a large part of the flavour. Anything over 6% starts to detract from the flavour making it taste like liquid farts. Taste some of England's Tennants Super ... 9% and disgusting! Under 4% it tastes a little washed-out. __________________

January 6th, 2008, 09:35 PM	#19 (permalink)
emu! Friend of Leo's Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Moderator 2B Posts: 2,367	Remember the wine cooler craze? When the wine coolers first came out (80's I think), they had ALOT of alcohol by volume. The only problem was they had so much alcohol that bars where required to have a beer license AND a liquor license to sell them. The wine cooler companies dropped thier alcohol content to fall within the beer catagories, and wine coolers became a lost cause.

January 7th, 2008, 05:47 AM	#23 (permalink)
outbreak Tele-Holic Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Australia Age: 22 Posts: 507	4%-5% here

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Nick Fanis Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Athens-GREECE Posts: 1,826 15 Photos	All the commercial Greek "beers" are 4,5%. They are probably the worst beers in the world,drink at your own risk!! __________________ "Hit him again Jack,he is crazy!" Hunter S.Thompson www.myspace.com/nickfanis

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outbreak Tele-Holic Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Australia Age: 22 Posts: 507	they'd have to be better then fosters......god i hate that **** but supposably its the most exported australian brew

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Nick Fanis Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Athens-GREECE Posts: 1,826 15 Photos	No trust me,a single Greek "AMSTEL" beer will send the innocent tourist straight to the hospital :) :) __________________ "Hit him again Jack,he is crazy!" Hunter S.Thompson www.myspace.com/nickfanis

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superchicken_VI Friend of Leo's Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Monroe, NC Age: 37 Posts: 2,270	As I live 15 minutes or so away from Woodman, I'd have to agree that around these parts it is a beer-like substance that is most consumed. Bud Light. Ugh. High-gravity beer just became legal in North Carolina about 2 years ago, so before that 5.5% was the highest legally sold in the state. Now, we have quite a few of the 9% floating around. There's a great German restaurant a few towns over that serves Spaten Optimator, which is a very nice high-gravity on tap. I drink Guinness as my normal beer, but I also like to venture out quite a bit.

January 7th, 2008, 10:24 AM	#28 (permalink)
Tele-evangelist TDPRI Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Vancouver Canada Age: 55 Posts: 63 8 Photos	Guinness for me; and speaking of offbeat beer ads, here's one of my favorites: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3W-TYgq00o Tim __________________ After 42 years of plucking I bought a Tele... I saved the best for last!

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Bruce_99 Tele-Meister Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Germany Age: 33 Posts: 303 18 Photos	I´m from Germany- so i go for Beck's beer http://it.youtube.com/watch?v=jMydQY...eature=related __________________ we learn more from a three minute record than we ever learn in school.. www.myspace.com/steviejetset

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serialsteve Tele-Holic Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 808	I'm a big fan of different stouts, but lately, I've had a case of Stella Artois around on a regular basis. Of course, my one true beer love will always be National Bohemian. Sadly, I'm not joking!

January 7th, 2008, 07:39 PM	#33 (permalink)
hollowman Tele-Holic Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Kansas City Age: 45 Posts: 780	the craft brewed big ales are starting to get a lot of popularity. The local brewery, Boulevard, has a new line of Belgian style ales out that range from 8 to 12%! definitely sippin' beer... interesting history, in WWII, while under grain rationing, the big American lager brewers like Coors, Bud, Schlitz, etc, made lighter beers i.e., beers with less malt signature. And guess what, they found that the lighter they made their lagers, the more beer they sold!! so here we are today, with huge amounts of tasteless beer being swilled in the U.S. I for one am happy that we now have a huge selection of good, traditional style, beers to choose from, both imported and local Cheers! __________________ "In a land where all are blind, the one eyed man is king"

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boneyguy Friend of Leo's Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: victoria b.c. Age: 51 Posts: 4,332	Years ago when I lived in Toronto I used to treat myself to Watneys Red Barrel but I haven't seen it out west here. Man that was some good stuff. Thank god for all the local micro brews!!!! __________________ "Science doesn't prove, it probes." Gregory Bateson

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Clive Hugh Tele-Holic Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Western Australia Age: 65 Posts: 719	Whilst on the subject of beer, I am about to go to India for a few weeks and in the "Lonely Planet" it says "Indian Beer often contains the preservative glycerol which can cause headaches. To avoid the thumping head open the bottle and quickly tip it upside down, with the top immersed, into a full glass of water. An oily film (glycerol) descends into the water - when this stops remove the bottle and enjoy a glycerol-free beer" Ye Gods! has anyone any experience of this? I can visualise the Delhi Belly with a headache. Clive

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