"Don't ban me but" post removed

TDPRI · January 2nd, 2008, 09:13 PM

Tonight a newish member posted a post about an artist he didn't like, get, whatever. He started the thread with the title "Don't ban me but..."

I started to write him a response and I realized that I was rising to the bait and decided to just kill the thread and email the guy separately.

In general there is nothing wrong with not liking some act, or talent. I don't care one whit about it. But when anyone starts a thread with "Don't ban me... but I'm going to say something totally out of the blue, for no reason at all except that is sure to ruffle a lot of people's feathers." then I call that trolling.

Normally, I'd let this pass unmentioned, but I felt an explanation about where the post went and why might be helpful.

buddywayne · January 2nd, 2008, 09:25 PM

Thanks for explanation!! I see your point!!!

geddins · January 2nd, 2008, 10:08 PM

You da man Paul

chet · January 2nd, 2008, 11:28 PM

When you think about it- it wouldn't be all that different if someone came on here and said they didn't like the playing of any of the other members:
Mandy Marie
Rockin' Carl
Tim Armstrong
etc, etc, etc...

Bad taste IMHO!

Other members shouldn't automatically agree with the troll tho'.

SMPTE · January 3rd, 2008, 01:06 AM

I miss all those posts before they get yanked. Not that they shouldn't be tossed, I just feel like I've missed out on watching the train wreck.

ibobunot · January 3rd, 2008, 01:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chet

Other members shouldn't automatically agree with the troll tho'.

I don't think he was trying to be a troll he just made a bad choice for a thread title.

It wasn't a good way to introduce himself to the forum....

boneyguy · January 3rd, 2008, 01:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SMPTE

I miss all those posts before they get yanked. Not that they shouldn't be tossed, I just feel like I've missed out on watching the train wreck.

You could just create your own trainwreck and then you wouldn't miss a second of it.

garytelecastor · January 3rd, 2008, 02:06 AM

I did manage to answer him Paul, and I tell you that I bow to your experience and inner voice. Years of working on these things give you a sixth sense about these things. Everybody has your back man.

ibobunot · January 3rd, 2008, 02:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SMPTE

I miss all those posts before they get yanked. Not that they shouldn't be tossed, I just feel like I've missed out on watching the train wreck.

Well, run right over to "Is Seymour duncan retarded???"....

An excellent example of a train wreck in progress...

Telenator · January 3rd, 2008, 05:11 AM

Maybe we need a Read Only archive of "Banned Threads" where we can read the stuff that has gotten vaporized from the open forum.

(just kidding) But on the other hand, there have to be some real Classics we've all missed.

It sure would be entertaining. Possibly, even educational!

Unkie Al · January 3rd, 2008, 06:17 AM

One of the many things that makes this forum different (and much better) than other forums are the very low number of trolls. I suspect that it's a direct result of our excellent webmaster!
Thank again Paul.

Jorge · January 3rd, 2008, 06:26 AM

the guys was asking what the big deal was about Brad Paisley, he couldn't understand him so he asked about others opinions so he might find out what he was missing. I AM at the exact same spot as he was, I can't understand Brad or countrymusic at all buy I sure would like to try to understand it.. but I guess I can't post a post about that now can I?

Durtdog · January 3rd, 2008, 06:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jorge

the guys was asking what the big deal was about Brad Paisley, he couldn't understand him so he asked about others opinions so he might find out what he was missing. I AM at the exact same spot as he was, I can't understand Brad or countrymusic at all buy I sure would like to try to understand it.. but I guess I can't post a post about that now can I?

Jorge, reread Paul's explanation. I think you missed the point by about a mile.

Jorge · January 3rd, 2008, 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Durtdog

Jorge, reread Paul's explanation. I think you missed the point by about a mile.

And he pointed out that the reason that he started the thread was "to ruffle some feathers". Wich clearly wasn't the case, but I might have missed something?

chet · January 3rd, 2008, 07:34 AM

Some guys on other forums do stuff like that just to get thier jollies. Unless you know this guy personally I'd think that it was the case.

BTW- have you ever seen a Brad Paisley live performance?

You'd know why a lot of people like him then.

detuned · January 3rd, 2008, 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jorge

the guys was asking what the big deal was about Brad Paisley...

So *that's* the guy that wrote in to GP complaining about the Paisley feature!

:-P

serialsteve · January 3rd, 2008, 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unkie Al

One of the many things that makes this forum different (and much better) than other forums are the very low number of trolls. I suspect that it's a direct result of our excellent webmaster!
Thank again Paul.

Absolutely! I was a member on the original TDP and the early RI page, but lost touch for years until 2003 when I reregistered and popped on every so often. I'm here every day again because this place IS so well run and for the large amount of people here, I daresay it's as smooth a forum as any out there-like it was ages ago. Many of the same people are still here, which is an amazing tribute to them as well as the people running the show. Kudos to all involved in keeping it that way!

BTW, if anyone ever criticized my playing on this site, I'd probably respect them more because it would demonstrate that they were knowledgeable, honest, and probably very talented musicians!

chet · January 3rd, 2008, 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by serialsteve

BTW, if anyone ever criticized my playing on this site, I'd probably respect them more because it would demonstrate that they were knowledgeable, honest, and probably very talented musicians!

If they did it constructively then that would be one thing but what's the point of starting a thread where people will just jump on a negative bandwagon?

Pete Galati · January 3rd, 2008, 01:04 PM

ibobunot · January 3rd, 2008, 01:14 PM

As a new member of the forum how was he suppose to know that Brad Paisley has been done to death around here.

Now he knows....

chet · January 3rd, 2008, 01:16 PM

Is that why hardly anyone replied to my last 2 Brad Paisley threads? :-P

neocaster · January 3rd, 2008, 01:19 PM

My favorites are the threads titled "Will somebody please explain [insert topic here]..." My impression is that these posts aren't looking for an explanation, they're looking for an opportuniy to defend their dislike.

Bogo · January 3rd, 2008, 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ibobunot

As a new member of the forum how was he suppose to know that Brad Paisley has been done to death around here.

The search function.
A simple title search would have yielded 3 full pages of threads with the name.

Flat357 · January 3rd, 2008, 01:25 PM

Why don't you have a ' Sin Bin ' section , where mods can dump a suspected thread for trial . If they become good , replace them , or if not , then delete them .
Sometimes great threads can emerge from a dubious first post .

This would also allow both members new and old to see the type of threads that are borderline , before creating one .
Just my 2 cents

ibobunot · January 3rd, 2008, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by chet

January 2nd, 2008, 09:13 PM	#1 (permalink)
TDPRI Administrator Poster Extraordinaire Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: TDPRILAND Posts: 5,161 36 Photos	"Don't ban me but" post removed Tonight a newish member posted a post about an artist he didn't like, get, whatever. He started the thread with the title "Don't ban me but..." I started to write him a response and I realized that I was rising to the bait and decided to just kill the thread and email the guy separately. In general there is nothing wrong with not liking some act, or talent. I don't care one whit about it. But when anyone starts a thread with "Don't ban me... but I'm going to say something totally out of the blue, for no reason at all except that is sure to ruffle a lot of people's feathers." then I call that trolling. Normally, I'd let this pass unmentioned, but I felt an explanation about where the post went and why might be helpful.

January 2nd, 2008, 09:25 PM	#2 (permalink)
buddywayne Tele-Holic Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: missouri Age: 62 Posts: 533 6 Photos	Thanks for explanation!! I see your point!!! __________________ 51 luv!!

January 2nd, 2008, 10:08 PM	#3 (permalink)
geddins Tele-Afflicted Join Date: May 2005 Location: Texas Age: 45 Posts: 1,560	You da man Paul __________________ www.myspace.com/gregeddins

January 3rd, 2008, 01:06 AM	#5 (permalink)
SMPTE Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Minneeeesoooottta Posts: 1,074	I miss all those posts before they get yanked. Not that they shouldn't be tossed, I just feel like I've missed out on watching the train wreck. __________________ HW1 Texas Tele, EJ Strat, MIJ JM, Epi Casino (AlnicoV), Gibson '61 RI SG, Steinberger, Squier PBass (heavily modded)

January 3rd, 2008, 02:06 AM	#8 (permalink)
garytelecastor Friend of Leo's Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,195 18 Photos	I did manage to answer him Paul, and I tell you that I bow to your experience and inner voice. Years of working on these things give you a sixth sense about these things. Everybody has your back man. __________________ éí 'aaníígÓÓ 'áhoot'é Redd Volkaert is a Jedi Knight at one with the Force!!!

January 2nd, 2008, 11:28 PM	#4 (permalink)
chet Poster Extraordinaire Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: The Jersey Shore Posts: 5,868	When you think about it- it wouldn't be all that different if someone came on here and said they didn't like the playing of any of the other members: Mandy Marie Rockin' Carl Tim Armstrong etc, etc, etc... Bad taste IMHO! Other members shouldn't automatically agree with the troll tho'.

January 3rd, 2008, 05:11 AM	#10 (permalink)
Telenator Friend of Leo's Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Connecticut Posts: 4,341	Maybe we need a Read Only archive of "Banned Threads" where we can read the stuff that has gotten vaporized from the open forum. (just kidding) But on the other hand, there have to be some real Classics we've all missed. It sure would be entertaining. Possibly, even educational! __________________ Dogs have the right idea!

January 3rd, 2008, 06:17 AM	#11 (permalink)
Unkie Al Tele-Holic Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Denmark Age: 40 Posts: 668 26 Photos	One of the many things that makes this forum different (and much better) than other forums are the very low number of trolls. I suspect that it's a direct result of our excellent webmaster! Thank again Paul. __________________ My girlfriend always laughs during sex - no matter what she's reading. -- Steve Jobs

January 3rd, 2008, 06:26 AM	#12 (permalink)
Jorge Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Oslo Posts: 1,286 11 Photos	the guys was asking what the big deal was about Brad Paisley, he couldn't understand him so he asked about others opinions so he might find out what he was missing. I AM at the exact same spot as he was, I can't understand Brad or countrymusic at all buy I sure would like to try to understand it.. but I guess I can't post a post about that now can I? __________________ And I knew the world was over so I took a look outside. - Jeff Mangum http://www.myspace.com/juggernautism Last edited by TDPRI : January 3rd, 2008 at 08:11 AM.

January 3rd, 2008, 07:34 AM	#15 (permalink)
chet Poster Extraordinaire Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: The Jersey Shore Posts: 5,868	Some guys on other forums do stuff like that just to get thier jollies. Unless you know this guy personally I'd think that it was the case. BTW- have you ever seen a Brad Paisley live performance? You'd know why a lot of people like him then.

January 3rd, 2008, 01:04 PM	#19 (permalink)
Pete Galati Poster Extraordinaire Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 8,104 2 Photos	Everybody doesn't like something

January 3rd, 2008, 01:14 PM	#20 (permalink)
ibobunot Friend of Leo's Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Pueblo, Colorado Age: 55 Posts: 3,142	As a new member of the forum how was he suppose to know that Brad Paisley has been done to death around here. Now he knows....

January 3rd, 2008, 01:16 PM	#21 (permalink)
chet Poster Extraordinaire Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: The Jersey Shore Posts: 5,868	Is that why hardly anyone replied to my last 2 Brad Paisley threads? :-P

January 3rd, 2008, 01:19 PM	#22 (permalink)
neocaster Friend of Leo's Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Chester County, PA Age: 35 Posts: 3,439 11 Photos	My favorites are the threads titled "Will somebody please explain [insert topic here]..." My impression is that these posts aren't looking for an explanation, they're looking for an opportuniy to defend their dislike. __________________ "...You don't need faith if you know it's gonna work!" "The views expressed here are mine and do not reflect the official opinion of my employer or the organization through which the Internet was accessed."

January 3rd, 2008, 01:25 PM	#24 (permalink)
Flat357 Friend of Leo's Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Cheshire Age: 40 Posts: 2,510	Why don't you have a ' Sin Bin ' section , where mods can dump a suspected thread for trial . If they become good , replace them , or if not , then delete them . Sometimes great threads can emerge from a dubious first post . This would also allow both members new and old to see the type of threads that are borderline , before creating one . Just my 2 cents