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Old December 2nd, 2007, 08:40 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Water or Mineral Spirits?

What do you use when wetsanding nitro?
I have read that both can be used.What do you find works the best and why?

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Old December 2nd, 2007, 08:51 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Spirits! One for me, one for the guitar, one for meee, one for the gutar, one for mah, one for the gutaaaaaaaa......<click>
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Old December 2nd, 2007, 09:35 AM   #3 (permalink)

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Yes, either will work. The major disadvantage of water is that you have to plug up all the holes (and anywhere there isn't paint) with something like plumber's putty to keep the water from soaking into the wood under your finish and ruining it.

When using a solvent like mineral spirits, be sure to wear nitrile gloves as the stuff will really irritate your skin. I think it eats through latex.
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I like water with a little bit of soap in it for lubrication. The sandpaper and finish won't "grab" each other and you get to the point of buffing the finish out quicker than water alone. Mineral spirits aren't even on my radar for this purpose.
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Old December 2nd, 2007, 11:37 AM   #5 (permalink)
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eryque makes a very good point about using water - it can get in your pre-drilled holes and create havoc if you don't plug them up.

But about mineral spirits irritating your skin - I have used mineral spirits for many years without gloves and never felt any kind of irritation. On more tender or sensitive skin this can indeed be a problem, but I think most readers can probably sand a guitar body without too much trouble.
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Old December 2nd, 2007, 11:46 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Spirits! One for me, one for the guitar, one for meee, one for the gutar, one for mah, one for the gutaaaaaaaa......<click>
Just to make sure nobody got confused... don't drink mineral spirits. It probably won't go down well.
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Old December 2nd, 2007, 11:53 AM   #7 (permalink)

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eryque makes a very good point about using water - it can get in your pre-drilled holes and create havoc if you don't plug them up.

But about mineral spirits irritating your skin - I have used mineral spirits for many years without gloves and never felt any kind of irritation. On more tender or sensitive skin this can indeed be a problem, but I think most readers can probably sand a guitar body without too much trouble.
Really? It gave me a rash where I only had occasional contact and actually made the skin on my hands tingle in this weird, burning way (that was before i was smart enough to wear the gloves).

In any case, I wouldn't recommend anyone use any kind of a solvent without protection. It might not harm you right away, but you can bet that it will in the long term.

Someone on the Reranch forum reports using baby oil with great success. I'm sure he has soft, supple hands that his wife loves.
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Old December 2nd, 2007, 11:59 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Just to make sure nobody got confused... don't drink mineral spirits. It probably won't go down well.
It comes up even worst,,, not sure how I know that,,,,
Water is slicker no doubt, anybody notice that it leaves a little less residue?
Having to plug the holes is a pain but worth it in the long run,, IMHO.
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eryque - what I call 'mineral spirits' is household-variety paint thinner (USA). Mineral Spirit 250, if I recall the label correctly.

It is possible that this stuff could cause discomfort to your hands. I can rub it all over my hands, arms, legs etc. with no problem. (Probably not a good idea, but when you're a painter you use a lot of thinner.)

Here in Holland they use different terminology. What we call 'paint thinner' (solvent 250) they call 'terpentine'. In California anno 2000 we didn't use 'turpentine' anymore. What we call 'lacquer thinner' (a much more volatile and dangerous solvent) they call simply 'thinner'. Lots of confusion my first years here.
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Here in Holland they use different terminology. What we call 'paint thinner' (solvent 250) they call 'terpentine'. In California anno 2000 we didn't use 'turpentine' anymore. What we call 'lacquer thinner' (a much more volatile and dangerous solvent) they call simply 'thinner'. Lots of confusion my first years here.
Ha, thanks for pointing that out!
I'm always confused as to how all this american talk actually translates to available products in Holland.
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eryque makes a very good point about using water - it can get in your pre-drilled holes and create havoc if you don't plug them up.

But about mineral spirits irritating your skin - I have used mineral spirits for many years without gloves and never felt any kind of irritation. On more tender or sensitive skin this can indeed be a problem, but I think most readers can probably sand a guitar body without too much trouble.
I cant get mineral spirits on my skins, that stuff eats me alive.
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Old December 2nd, 2007, 06:28 PM   #12 (permalink)
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It comes up even worst,,, not sure how I know that,,,,.

Sorry missed the 'mineral', yeah don't drink it your guitar will wind up like this:

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