Limbaugh resigned from ESPN - Big Suprise!!

Robert M. · October 2nd, 2003, 11:15 AM

I just don't understand why network TV hires people who are known to be controversial, and then when they do something that they are known for they get fired or "resign".

Same thing with Bill Mahr and ABC. They pick up his show Politically Incorrect and then when he says something politically incorrect he gets fired and they cancel the show. What did they expect? They knew it wasn't going to be The Brady Bunch.

Sorry for the rant. Back to playing my guitar.

telemike · October 2nd, 2003, 11:41 AM

Probably the same goob that told him in the meeting the day before that he needed to be a little more controversial is the one that asked him to resign when it blew up on him. This is all speculation on my part of course, but we all know that's how the industry works...

11 Gauge · October 2nd, 2003, 12:18 PM

so it's cool in certain circles to be conservative and attempt to make things as they were back in the 50's or something like that. no prob. understanding that concept...

no problem there, but how did this guy get elected as the voice of the G.O.P.?

conservatives just can't count on getting the minority vote if their poster boy is caught making remarks which, racist or not, are interpreted as such.

it's no wonder more and more of us are becoming independents - neither party can get it right and put some candidates or guys like Rush out there and have much of anything sensible come out of their mouths. and this whole Ahhnold thing just cracks me up. i say they elect him, just to see if they can screw up California any worse than its current state.

yeah. simply ridiculous. as ridiculous as Jimmy Kimmel leaving the Man Show. at least Jon Stewart, Colin Quinn, and Mr. A$$hole himself have made a smart move over to Comedy Central. now we just need a show or channel for all the famous people who are good at saying one thing - the wrong thing.

snoglobe · October 2nd, 2003, 12:25 PM

I nominate Howard Stern

That should cool things out.

Dave W · October 2nd, 2003, 12:56 PM

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how did this guy get elected as the voice of the G.O.P.?

Where on earth did you get the idea that he represents the Republican Party? He doesn't.

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neither party can get it right and put some candidates or guys like Rush out there and have much of anything sensible come out of their mouths.

The Republican Party has never put Rush out there. He has nothing to do with the G.O.P.

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it's no wonder more and more of us are becoming independents

There's just no evidence to support that.

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conservatives just can't count on getting the minority vote if their poster boy is caught making remarks which, racist or not, are interpreted as such.

Again, he's not a poster boy for anyone but his fans, he doesn't represent all conservatives, and you're confusing conservatives with a political party.

telemike · October 2nd, 2003, 01:17 PM

Well, I do not listen to Rush, my point was that ESPN hired him because he is controversial to help boost their ratings, which DID happen. Now he is resigning because he said something that was controversial... ??? helloooo.

The bad thing is, his comments were directed at the media and NOT at McNabb. He's resigning because his comments were misconstrued.

But, I'm sure he'll be OK. Like him or not, his show is on like 600 or so affiliates...

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Originally Posted by 11 Gauge

conservatives just can't count on getting the minority vote if their poster boy is caught making remarks which, racist or not, are interpreted as such.

That's easy to say, until a comment YOU make is interpreted in a way that you didn't mean it...

The neither R nor D,

genelovesjez · October 2nd, 2003, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by telemike

The bad thing is, his comments were directed at the media and NOT at McNabb. He's resigning because his comments were misconstrued.

Yeah, isn't it terrible when racist comments are misconstrued?

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Originally Posted by telemike

That's easy to say, until a comment YOU make is interpreted in a way that you didn't mean it...

Luckily for me, non-racist comments are seldom misconstrued.

e3 · October 2nd, 2003, 02:23 PM

I think Rush...(who does a masterful job of "spinning" for a conservative platform) was trying to get a "dig" in at the "liberal" media (the same media he holds in disdain) and got slammed instead - for being a racist or at least making a racist remark.

I don't think Rush is a racist.

But I do think its amusing that he got fired...his comments were "spinned" around on him...he was criticizing the media and was fired for attacking a black quarterback.

Sometimes it takes "karma" awhile to show up - but eventually it happens.

I bet Clinton is laughing his a$$ off....

Anyway, its all entertainment... Al Sharpton's reaction and comments are just as amusing.

Oh Yeah, In regard to a successful black quarterback...anybody remember Warren Moon?
(Luv Ya Blue!).

e3 8)

Dave W · October 2nd, 2003, 03:13 PM

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Luckily for me, non-racist comments are seldom misconstrued.

Lucky for me, too! Funny how that seems to work so well!

11 Gauge · October 2nd, 2003, 03:46 PM

no evidence of more indies? surely you jest... the crowd i'm in gets bigger every day. i'm sick to death of the 2 parties, whose candidates have sold their souls just to attempt to tell us what we want to hear, and then never do it...

and even if people still insist on using the R or D designation, or they are polarized enough to still consider themselves a liberal or conservative, many more people are independent than they realize.

but really, no evidence? look to the last presidential election for evidence. the closest in history... the indies could have swung it either way - even they were split. everyone else was one party or the other, but couldn't decide which mediocre guy to stick in there, so the friggin supreme court had to figure it out for us...

sure, we're all conservatives when it comes to downsizing government, or getting excited over tax cuts.

and we all get excited when we go to war and throw out some dictator. then we throw out the president who did it 4 years later, because he forgot about the economy.

i'm just sick of both sides - conservatives who are always slamming liberals, and vice versa. both sides suck, and the answer (if you can even call it that) is somewhere in the middle.

maybe Rush ain't the GOP posterboy, but you sure couldn't tell down here where i live... and Al may not be the liberal posterboy, but i know how that nut is aligned as well.

i live for the day when someone misconstrues something i've said as being racial. i adopted my daughter from Guatemala, and my skin is as white as Casper the ghost... i've got more relatives with ties from Asia, South America and Africa than from Europe... if i said anything racial they would kill me before any of the minorities i live amongst. my best friends growing up were from the Phillipines, Korea, Cuba, and the projects...

i like being in a group that doesn't really want to be a group... none of them represent me, my friends, or family! sorry for stepping on toes. so easy to do these days... i guess it makes clear what affiliations i DON'T belong to...

telemike · October 2nd, 2003, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by genelovesjez

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Originally Posted by telemike

The bad thing is, his comments were directed at the media and NOT at McNabb. He's resigning because his comments were misconstrued.

Yeah, isn't it terrible when racist comments are misconstrued?

I didn't think the comment was racist.

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Originally Posted by telemike

That's easy to say, until a comment YOU make is interpreted in a way that you didn't mean it...

Luckily for me, non-racist comments are seldom misconstrued.[/quote]

ANY comment can be misconstrued. Just ask my girlfriend... And I didn't specify that it had to be misconstrued as racist.

11 Gauge · October 2nd, 2003, 04:26 PM

i think all comments are at least partially misconstrued. the likelihood increases as the group you are addressing grows in size.

so then it probably comes down to holding your tongue or biting it!

but back to the original tack of things, i do actually feel a bit sorry for Rush, even if i think he's a goofball.

then it brings me back to how these people end up with the following that they do. must be some amusement there or living vicariously, having someone to actually say things that will ultimately get them crucified...

i guess it's living vicariously, but in a cruel sense. this is why i would love to see the Governator elected out on the West Coast. it would be enough to make me watch the evening news again.

where do these people come from, that will bravely (or is that stupidly) rush out onto the battlefield naked, proclaiming that they can kill everyone?

just the ramblings of a guy with the number of constituents equalling zero...

Bill Beck · October 2nd, 2003, 05:18 PM

they'll bring in Al Franken to take over!! IF Larry King or PBS will let him have a few nights off

stantheman · October 2nd, 2003, 05:21 PM

The guy knew NOTHING about THE GAME PERIOD. He made Dennis (Miller) look like Amos Alonzo Stagg. Please let's just hope they get someone with some "football sense". And yeah, I think it would be great if Doug Williams who had one of the greatest games in Super Bowl History AND is available AND does
have "football sense" AND good diction got a shot at the job.

ps; the letter I was drafting to Paul Tagliabue is going in
the trash.

Bill Beck · October 2nd, 2003, 05:53 PM

Rush knows ALOT about football, way more than the average fan, including me. He has always been a huge Pittsburgh Steeler fan and knows his stats for the most part.

That said, I think that he was wrong in his comments, to me, race has nothing to do with anything. I happen to think that McNabbs a fine quarterback, now Kordell Stewart, that's another matter

If you are old enough to remember Howard Cosell, he used to say some pretty off the wall things, and now long was he with ABC Sports? A LONG time.

The problem is, things have become waaayyy too P.C., and what Rush said, right or wrong, was totally non P.C.
That's why he's being crucified today. Even old Mr. Cosell would probably have to tone it way down if he were still around.

The world has become too dang touchy, IMHO. It was a dumb remark, let's move on to more important things, like guitars.

Dave W · October 2nd, 2003, 06:43 PM

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no evidence of more indies? surely you jest... the crowd i'm in gets bigger every day.

I really don't want to argue about it, but all I see is the two party system as firmly entrenched as ever. Do you have actual evidence that major party registration is dropping, or that more independents are being elected, or even running? I haven't seen it.

Michael R · October 2nd, 2003, 06:52 PM

I gotta agree with the initial post about hiring "controversial hosts and then when they do something that they are known for they get fired or "resign", thats why they were hired.

Rush is a master of turning quotes around, as it has now come back on him (for real though ? I doubt it), from what I know of him he has always been very careful, always well thought out (regardless if you agree or not), so since I haven't heard his name in a long time and didn't even know he was a football guy, sure the way he calculates he probally wanted off the show and the press to boot, but just my opinion.

I actually think there is some truth to what he said, PC police and all be dangeded, he's fat, balding, and going deaf so he's 'protected' too these days.

I just saw more news, he can blame it all on the oxycontin

genelovesjez · October 2nd, 2003, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by telemike

I didn't think the comment was racist.

Well, you're entitled to your opinion. I'll agree that it wasn't as explicit as some of the racist comments Limbaugh has made in the past. Still, he's basically saying this guy gets more credit than he deserves because of the colour of his skin. To me that's racist. If you don't believe me, find a minority and tell them they got their job/house/spouse/advantage/opportunity/friends because of their skin colour and get back to me. Even using Rush's own logic, his statement is racist. How? Well, he claims the media is rating a player too highly because of his skin colour (?). Then, he trashes this player. Ergo, he is singling him out for trashing to correct the media racism as he perceives it. Therefore, he is trashing this player because of his race. Where other people just see a quarterback, Rush sees a black quarterback. And he can't get past it. Therefore it informs all of his "analysis" on this guy - how he's treated in the media, how he got the job, etc. That's racism to me.

TDPRI · October 3rd, 2003, 12:09 AM

This thread is a loaded gun. There's nothing to see here. Move on by.

Paul Green

October 2nd, 2003, 11:15 AM	#1 (permalink)
Robert M. Tele-Meister Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 141	Limbaugh resigned from ESPN - Big Suprise!! I just don't understand why network TV hires people who are known to be controversial, and then when they do something that they are known for they get fired or "resign". Same thing with Bill Mahr and ABC. They pick up his show Politically Incorrect and then when he says something politically incorrect he gets fired and they cancel the show. What did they expect? They knew it wasn't going to be The Brady Bunch. Sorry for the rant. Back to playing my guitar.

October 2nd, 2003, 11:41 AM	#2 (permalink)
telemike Tele-Holic Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Tuscaloosa, AL Posts: 616	Exactly! Probably the same goob that told him in the meeting the day before that he needed to be a little more controversial is the one that asked him to resign when it blew up on him. This is all speculation on my part of course, but we all know that's how the industry works... __________________ 3 >\| ! \/\/

October 2nd, 2003, 12:18 PM	#3 (permalink)
11 Gauge Friend of Leo's Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: The East Coast Posts: 2,593 14 Photos	i have never understood his popularity... so it's cool in certain circles to be conservative and attempt to make things as they were back in the 50's or something like that. no prob. understanding that concept... no problem there, but how did this guy get elected as the voice of the G.O.P.? conservatives just can't count on getting the minority vote if their poster boy is caught making remarks which, racist or not, are interpreted as such. it's no wonder more and more of us are becoming independents - neither party can get it right and put some candidates or guys like Rush out there and have much of anything sensible come out of their mouths. and this whole Ahhnold thing just cracks me up. i say they elect him, just to see if they can screw up California any worse than its current state. yeah. simply ridiculous. as ridiculous as Jimmy Kimmel leaving the Man Show. at least Jon Stewart, Colin Quinn, and Mr. A$$hole himself have made a smart move over to Comedy Central. now we just need a show or channel for all the famous people who are good at saying one thing - the wrong thing. __________________

October 2nd, 2003, 12:25 PM	#4 (permalink)
snoglobe Tele-Holic Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Posts: 515	Rush's Replacement I nominate Howard Stern That should cool things out. __________________ Snoglobe "The liver is bad, it must be punished!"

October 2nd, 2003, 02:23 PM	#8 (permalink)
e3 Tele-Meister Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 142	...beat at his own game I think Rush...(who does a masterful job of "spinning" for a conservative platform) was trying to get a "dig" in at the "liberal" media (the same media he holds in disdain) and got slammed instead - for being a racist or at least making a racist remark. I don't think Rush is a racist. But I do think its amusing that he got fired...his comments were "spinned" around on him...he was criticizing the media and was fired for attacking a black quarterback. Sometimes it takes "karma" awhile to show up - but eventually it happens. I bet Clinton is laughing his a$$ off.... Anyway, its all entertainment... Al Sharpton's reaction and comments are just as amusing. Oh Yeah, In regard to a successful black quarterback...anybody remember Warren Moon? (Luv Ya Blue!). e3 8)

October 2nd, 2003, 03:46 PM	#10 (permalink)
11 Gauge Friend of Leo's Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: The East Coast Posts: 2,593 14 Photos	no evidence of more indies? surely you jest... the crowd i'm in gets bigger every day. i'm sick to death of the 2 parties, whose candidates have sold their souls just to attempt to tell us what we want to hear, and then never do it... and even if people still insist on using the R or D designation, or they are polarized enough to still consider themselves a liberal or conservative, many more people are independent than they realize. but really, no evidence? look to the last presidential election for evidence. the closest in history... the indies could have swung it either way - even they were split. everyone else was one party or the other, but couldn't decide which mediocre guy to stick in there, so the friggin supreme court had to figure it out for us... sure, we're all conservatives when it comes to downsizing government, or getting excited over tax cuts. and we all get excited when we go to war and throw out some dictator. then we throw out the president who did it 4 years later, because he forgot about the economy. i'm just sick of both sides - conservatives who are always slamming liberals, and vice versa. both sides suck, and the answer (if you can even call it that) is somewhere in the middle. maybe Rush ain't the GOP posterboy, but you sure couldn't tell down here where i live... and Al may not be the liberal posterboy, but i know how that nut is aligned as well. i live for the day when someone misconstrues something i've said as being racial. i adopted my daughter from Guatemala, and my skin is as white as Casper the ghost... i've got more relatives with ties from Asia, South America and Africa than from Europe... if i said anything racial they would kill me before any of the minorities i live amongst. my best friends growing up were from the Phillipines, Korea, Cuba, and the projects... i like being in a group that doesn't really want to be a group... none of them represent me, my friends, or family! sorry for stepping on toes. so easy to do these days... i guess it makes clear what affiliations i DON'T belong to... __________________

October 2nd, 2003, 04:26 PM	#12 (permalink)
11 Gauge Friend of Leo's Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: The East Coast Posts: 2,593 14 Photos	i think all comments are at least partially misconstrued. the likelihood increases as the group you are addressing grows in size. so then it probably comes down to holding your tongue or biting it! but back to the original tack of things, i do actually feel a bit sorry for Rush, even if i think he's a goofball. then it brings me back to how these people end up with the following that they do. must be some amusement there or living vicariously, having someone to actually say things that will ultimately get them crucified... i guess it's living vicariously, but in a cruel sense. this is why i would love to see the Governator elected out on the West Coast. it would be enough to make me watch the evening news again. where do these people come from, that will bravely (or is that stupidly) rush out onto the battlefield naked, proclaiming that they can kill everyone? just the ramblings of a guy with the number of constituents equalling zero... __________________

October 2nd, 2003, 05:18 PM	#13 (permalink)
Bill Beck Tele-Meister Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Chicago, Il. Posts: 366	Now. maybe... they'll bring in Al Franken to take over!! IF Larry King or PBS will let him have a few nights off

October 2nd, 2003, 05:21 PM	#14 (permalink)
stantheman Friend of Leo's Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: White Mountains Posts: 4,555	Hey, I'm glad he's gone, I can watch AND listen again. The guy knew NOTHING about THE GAME PERIOD. He made Dennis (Miller) look like Amos Alonzo Stagg. Please let's just hope they get someone with some "football sense". And yeah, I think it would be great if Doug Williams who had one of the greatest games in Super Bowl History AND is available AND does have "football sense" AND good diction got a shot at the job. ps; the letter I was drafting to Paul Tagliabue is going in the trash. __________________ Somebody Loan Me A Dime

October 2nd, 2003, 05:53 PM	#15 (permalink)
Bill Beck Tele-Meister Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Chicago, Il. Posts: 366	Stan, gotta disaggree with you buddy! Rush knows ALOT about football, way more than the average fan, including me. He has always been a huge Pittsburgh Steeler fan and knows his stats for the most part. That said, I think that he was wrong in his comments, to me, race has nothing to do with anything. I happen to think that McNabbs a fine quarterback, now Kordell Stewart, that's another matter If you are old enough to remember Howard Cosell, he used to say some pretty off the wall things, and now long was he with ABC Sports? A LONG time. The problem is, things have become waaayyy too P.C., and what Rush said, right or wrong, was totally non P.C. That's why he's being crucified today. Even old Mr. Cosell would probably have to tone it way down if he were still around. The world has become too dang touchy, IMHO. It was a dumb remark, let's move on to more important things, like guitars.

October 2nd, 2003, 06:52 PM	#17 (permalink)
Michael R Tele-Holic Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Mystic CT Posts: 579	I gotta agree with the initial post about hiring "controversial hosts and then when they do something that they are known for they get fired or "resign", thats why they were hired. Rush is a master of turning quotes around, as it has now come back on him (for real though ? I doubt it), from what I know of him he has always been very careful, always well thought out (regardless if you agree or not), so since I haven't heard his name in a long time and didn't even know he was a football guy, sure the way he calculates he probally wanted off the show and the press to boot, but just my opinion. I actually think there is some truth to what he said, PC police and all be dangeded, he's fat, balding, and going deaf so he's 'protected' too these days. I just saw more news, he can blame it all on the oxycontin

October 3rd, 2003, 12:09 AM	#19 (permalink)
TDPRI Administrator Friend of Leo's Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: TDPRILAND Posts: 4,924 36 Photos	Bad Dog Cafe yes... but still no politics This thread is a loaded gun. There's nothing to see here. Move on by. Paul Green