Estaban guitars?

incaowns · February 7th, 2007, 08:04 AM

I saw an add for one of these, on the advertisement channel, yes yes i love the ad channel... ok i just wanna know 69 bucks looks pretty cheap.

Stefan · February 7th, 2007, 08:26 AM

forget about it... it´s a joke!

markothefish · February 7th, 2007, 09:26 AM

Estaban is possibly the greatest guitarest in the western world. I read somewhere where he tought Eric Clapton,Jimmy Page , Jeff Beck, Chet Atkins and Joe Satriani all how to play guitar . He might have actually tutored Les Paul and wes Montgomery .
In all seriousness heres a link to the Harmony central review site http://reviews.harmony-central.com/r...wn+Guitar/10/1

mark norwine · February 7th, 2007, 10:06 AM

The "all wood construction" is Luan......floor underlayment plywood.

Pass

Big Mike Simpson · February 7th, 2007, 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by incaowns

I saw an add for one of these, on the advertisement channel, yes yes i love the ad channel... ok i just wanna know 69 bucks looks pretty cheap.

They are junk and overpriced at any price.

Notice that he NEVER plays one in the ad... he always plays a Martin or high end classical.

If Segovia were alive today he would no doubt "EL Kabong" Esteban with every one of these.

mojocasterman · February 7th, 2007, 10:42 AM

Wirst pieces of crap known to man... which is why they're on the ad channel. They actually have a rule that nothing of quality and/or value can be advertised on it

zombywoof · February 7th, 2007, 10:55 AM

Only ever saw one. Made of plywood and the "Roswood" fingerboard was actually painted on. At $69 too expensive for firewood.

freshmattyp · February 7th, 2007, 12:48 PM

Here's an intersting article about him from 2000. Say what you want about the artist, but he's got the business end figured out.

http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/issue...s/feature.html

And, his "Guitars" if you call them that, are utter crap.

TJNY · February 7th, 2007, 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by markothefish

Estaban is possibly the greatest guitarest in the western world. I read somewhere where he tought Eric Clapton,Jimmy Page , Jeff Beck, Chet Atkins and Joe Satriani all how to play guitar . He might have actually tutored Les Paul and wes Montgomery .
In all seriousness heres a link to the Harmony central review site http://reviews.harmony-central.com/r...wn+Guitar/10/1

You must be confusing him with Steven Seagal!!!

Pete Galati · February 7th, 2007, 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mark norwine

The "all wood construction" is Luan......floor underlayment plywood.

Pass

Estaban guitars are made of luan plywood? That's funny. I've had most of a sheet of luan plywood sitting in the basement for a couple years so it doesn't soak up moisture out in the garage. I've been thinking of using it for a Dano knockoff.

Pete

voodoochile · February 7th, 2007, 03:23 PM

You gotta love a guy who can do info-mercials, claiming his product is far supperior to Fender and the rest of the world at less than $200.00. I also like how he's so passionate about it, portraying him self as the second coming of Christ, wanting to share music with the world! Every beginning player has a full band behind them at Red Rocks to show off the great sounds of the instrument! If one of his guitars or amp's were on fire, i would waste my pee to put it out! Any cheap entry level Fender, Epiphone, Ibanez, Washburn etc... will play and sound better.

photoweborama · February 7th, 2007, 04:57 PM

This kid my son plays with has one. I worked on it and got it playing pretty good, then two months later he brought it back, and I have no clue how any guitar go out of whack so bad so quick.. well actually I guess I do know.

If you want a great cheap acoustic, then let me relate this story to you...

I was home with a sick kid one Saturday, and my wife comes home and says "I have something for you". She brings in this dirty, full of cob webs acoustic guitar that is missing two strings and bridge pins. It seems someone was moving and put it in a box on their driveway with a sign that said "FREE", so she took it.

I cleaned it up, cleaned out the inside, put on a set of rosewood bridge pins that I had laying around since 1981. Re-cut the nut because it was basically a pre-shaped nut without the slots actually cut in it. Put on a set new strings.

Well, to make a long story short, it ended up being a great guitar. In fact, it plays and sound so good, I sold my good Yamaha acoustic and bought my wife one of those Retro Phat bicycles with the money.

The best thing is these only run $60.00 new. The brand is Maxam, and the model is "HHGUITAR".

I was in a local specialty shop yesterday that only sells Martin and Taylor. I played 2 $3000.00 Martins, and this cheap thing had much better action. Of course, I'm sure with a setup, the Martins would be much better, but how can you loose for $60.00?

chickenpicker · February 7th, 2007, 05:20 PM

I just read the Phoenix article.

The guy's a first class self-marketer, who's somehow managed to build his brand, and it would seem, singlehandedly.

Like all good marketeers, he's got people talking about his brand...

Chimp #6 · February 7th, 2007, 05:28 PM

It is made of a material that MAY have once been part of a REAL tree.

wilkat1 · February 7th, 2007, 05:31 PM

Esteban makes a great guitar

FOR ME TO POOP ON!

Mark Davis · February 7th, 2007, 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wilkat1

Esteban makes a great guitar

FOR ME TO POOP ON!

hahahahahahahaha that made my day

I love Triumph the Insult Comic Doggie

studebaker hawk · February 7th, 2007, 05:48 PM

I agree, Triumph sould have his own TV show!

bender-freak · February 8th, 2007, 01:07 AM

buddy of mine bought one last year; asked me to fit a new nut for it so i put a graphtec gibson type nut on it (worth more than the guitar is...!!!!)....after much swearing and tinkering finally got it playable (somewhat) but, tonewise....what was the point..??...oh yeah...the fingerboard "finish" blackened the ends of my fingers really quick and was a "b" to get off....why didn't it stick to the fingerboard like that.....my opinion only....junk...

Dep · February 8th, 2007, 01:29 PM

I've seen a couple and they were all fire fodder in my opinion. My next door neighbor bought one for his son. Wish he'd asked me before he did.

Dep

hekawi · February 8th, 2007, 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wilkat1

Esteban makes a great guitar

FOR ME TO POOP ON!

you could build a better guitar out of Triumph's poop!

Cyrithicus · February 8th, 2007, 02:15 PM

Luan is an indonesian mohogany, not that that excuses the guitar!

The painted fretboard is the biggest turn off for moi!

CancerLeoCam · February 8th, 2007, 02:19 PM

If you buy one you get a Mickey Rourke ..I mean Esteban autographed magic mojo hat.

Crotalus Atrox · February 8th, 2007, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by zombywoof

the "Roswood" fingerboard was actually painted on. .

I'm sure it was fine Brazilian paint, though.

It drives me nuts that the guy has decided to go by the name "Esteban" but doesn't even know how to pronounce it.

voodoochile · February 10th, 2007, 02:25 PM

I'd just like to see the instructional DVD's! Those have to be packed with all kind of quality instruction...

Step 1. Close any curtains that could allow your friends to see you.
Step 2. Insert DVD
Step 3. View intro of Esteban playing a different guitar with percussion, strings, and brass drowning him out.
Step 4. Tune guitar & get your hopes up!
Step 5. Hear the buzzing strings as you attempt first lesson (probably "House of the rising sun" like on the HSN)
Step 6. Reality sets in...

studio1087 · February 10th, 2007, 03:02 PM

I played a used Esteban in a store. The black dye on the fretboard was wearing off, the rossete was a sticker, the action was horrible. I would honestly put the Esataban at 1/3 the quality of the $99 guitars that they sell at Walmart during the holidays.

I get really upset becasue really nice moms and dads and grandparents are buying those things for kids with the best intentions in the world. They have no clue about the $200 Yamahas or Art & Lutherie or used Seagulls that exist. Nice people watch an infomercial and buy crap. I hope that the kids get a second guitar or a chance at learning music after dad finds out the he dropped $150 on a pig in a poke.

It's as bad as the people who market "money making kits" to people who don't know better.

If Esteban is so very skilled, he should record and tour. Stop selling crap.

Another thing, he took two lessons from Segovia who called him Esteban (Spanish for Steve which is his real name). The whole PR thing about Steve being Sogovia's greatest life student and Segovia gave him the name Esteban out of admiration...blah blah blah blah. It's a real stretch.

I met David Crosby once but I don't tell the world that I'm his protege.

I think Steve's a crook.

February 7th, 2007, 08:04 AM	#1 (permalink)
incaowns Tele-Meister Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Hong kong. Age: 18 Posts: 453	Estaban guitars? I saw an add for one of these, on the advertisement channel, yes yes i love the ad channel... ok i just wanna know 69 bucks looks pretty cheap.

February 7th, 2007, 08:26 AM	#2 (permalink)
Stefan Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Sweden Age: 29 Posts: 1,826 37 Photos	forget about it... it´s a joke! __________________ 1981 Capri Orange Fender Telecaster 1976 Fender Stratocaster 2007 Martin Backpacker 2005 Martin HD-28

February 7th, 2007, 09:26 AM	#3 (permalink)
markothefish Friend of Leo's Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Greenville, Rhode Island Age: 42 Posts: 2,116 7 Photos	Estaban is possibly the greatest guitarest in the western world. I read somewhere where he tought Eric Clapton,Jimmy Page , Jeff Beck, Chet Atkins and Joe Satriani all how to play guitar . He might have actually tutored Les Paul and wes Montgomery . In all seriousness heres a link to the Harmony central review site http://reviews.harmony-central.com/r...wn+Guitar/10/1 __________________ Quote me as saying I was mis-quoted. Groucho Marx

February 7th, 2007, 10:06 AM	#4 (permalink)
mark norwine Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: New Jersey Age: 50 Posts: 1,382	The "all wood construction" is Luan......floor underlayment plywood. Pass __________________ "Progress is not possible without deviation from the norm." Frank Zappa

February 7th, 2007, 10:42 AM	#6 (permalink)
mojocasterman Friend of Leo's Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 4,315	Wirst pieces of crap known to man... which is why they're on the ad channel. They actually have a rule that nothing of quality and/or value can be advertised on it __________________ Trussart SteelPhonic & Deluxe Steelcaster - McNaught SC Jr - Tom Anderson Cobra w/ 3 P90s - Crook Custom Tele w/ Lollar & TV Jones & T w/ McVay bender - Grosh baritone - SRV Strat - Ovation Elite T - Dr. Z. Carmen Ghia & Mini Z - Fender Tweed Blues Junior.

February 7th, 2007, 10:55 AM	#7 (permalink)
zombywoof Friend of Leo's Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Back in the Heartland Posts: 2,924 17 Photos	Only ever saw one. Made of plywood and the "Roswood" fingerboard was actually painted on. At $69 too expensive for firewood. __________________ "I don't play a lot of fancy guitar. I don't want to play it. The kind of guitar I want to play is mean, mean licks." John Lee Hooker

February 7th, 2007, 12:48 PM	#8 (permalink)
freshmattyp Tele-Holic Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Kansas City Age: 43 Posts: 970 18 Photos	Here's an intersting article about him from 2000. Say what you want about the artist, but he's got the business end figured out. http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/issue...s/feature.html And, his "Guitars" if you call them that, are utter crap.

February 7th, 2007, 03:23 PM	#11 (permalink)
voodoochile TDPRI Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Waukesha Wi. (Birthplace of Les Paul) Age: 37 Posts: 81 25 Photos	Esteban at Red Rock, Ooooooooooh! You gotta love a guy who can do info-mercials, claiming his product is far supperior to Fender and the rest of the world at less than $200.00. I also like how he's so passionate about it, portraying him self as the second coming of Christ, wanting to share music with the world! Every beginning player has a full band behind them at Red Rocks to show off the great sounds of the instrument! If one of his guitars or amp's were on fire, i would waste my pee to put it out! Any cheap entry level Fender, Epiphone, Ibanez, Washburn etc... will play and sound better. __________________ "Standin next to a mountain... chop it down with the edge of my hand"

February 7th, 2007, 04:57 PM	#12 (permalink)
photoweborama Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Sacramento, CA Age: 50 Posts: 1,561 15 Photos	This kid my son plays with has one. I worked on it and got it playing pretty good, then two months later he brought it back, and I have no clue how any guitar go out of whack so bad so quick.. well actually I guess I do know. If you want a great cheap acoustic, then let me relate this story to you... I was home with a sick kid one Saturday, and my wife comes home and says "I have something for you". She brings in this dirty, full of cob webs acoustic guitar that is missing two strings and bridge pins. It seems someone was moving and put it in a box on their driveway with a sign that said "FREE", so she took it. I cleaned it up, cleaned out the inside, put on a set of rosewood bridge pins that I had laying around since 1981. Re-cut the nut because it was basically a pre-shaped nut without the slots actually cut in it. Put on a set new strings. Well, to make a long story short, it ended up being a great guitar. In fact, it plays and sound so good, I sold my good Yamaha acoustic and bought my wife one of those Retro Phat bicycles with the money. The best thing is these only run $60.00 new. The brand is Maxam, and the model is "HHGUITAR". I was in a local specialty shop yesterday that only sells Martin and Taylor. I played 2 $3000.00 Martins, and this cheap thing had much better action. Of course, I'm sure with a setup, the Martins would be much better, but how can you loose for $60.00? __________________ Best guitar photos on the net! photoweborama.com!

February 7th, 2007, 05:20 PM	#13 (permalink)
chickenpicker Friend of Leo's Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: UK Posts: 3,060 14 Photos	I just read the Phoenix article. The guy's a first class self-marketer, who's somehow managed to build his brand, and it would seem, singlehandedly. Like all good marketeers, he's got people talking about his brand...

February 7th, 2007, 05:28 PM	#14 (permalink)
Chimp #6 Tele-Meister Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: San Clemente, California Posts: 173 17 Photos	Let's not be too quick to judge .... It is made of a material that MAY have once been part of a REAL tree. __________________ When I was a young boy, I heard the sound of rolling thunder ..... ever since then I have been trying to play it.

February 7th, 2007, 05:31 PM	#15 (permalink)
wilkat1 Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: So. Illinois Age: 40 Posts: 1,554 20 Photos	Esteban makes a great guitar FOR ME TO POOP ON! __________________ MySpace "That number don't mean nothing to me if the guitar don't sound right." - Buddy Guy on the year a guitar was manufactured.

February 7th, 2007, 05:48 PM	#17 (permalink)
studebaker hawk Tele-Meister Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 174	I agree, Triumph sould have his own TV show!

February 8th, 2007, 01:07 AM	#18 (permalink)
bender-freak Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: springfield, missouri Posts: 1,440	buddy of mine bought one last year; asked me to fit a new nut for it so i put a graphtec gibson type nut on it (worth more than the guitar is...!!!!)....after much swearing and tinkering finally got it playable (somewhat) but, tonewise....what was the point..??...oh yeah...the fingerboard "finish" blackened the ends of my fingers really quick and was a "b" to get off....why didn't it stick to the fingerboard like that.....my opinion only....junk... __________________ bender-freak

February 8th, 2007, 01:29 PM	#19 (permalink)
Dep Tele-Meister Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: St Johns, Florida Posts: 274	I've seen a couple and they were all fire fodder in my opinion. My next door neighbor bought one for his son. Wish he'd asked me before he did. Dep

February 8th, 2007, 02:15 PM	#21 (permalink)
Cyrithicus Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Oklahoma Age: 31 Posts: 1,020 4 Photos	Luan is an indonesian mohogany, not that that excuses the guitar! The painted fretboard is the biggest turn off for moi! __________________ "When I was young, I could remember anything, whether it happened or not." --Mark Twain

February 8th, 2007, 02:19 PM	#22 (permalink)
CancerLeoCam Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Mule Deer-Mt. Lion Safari, CA Posts: 1,703 5 Photos	If you buy one you get a Mickey Rourke ..I mean Esteban autographed magic mojo hat. __________________ Everyone's your "buddy" or "friend" when they want you or something from you. If you're not willing to work for free why should somebody else?

February 10th, 2007, 02:25 PM	#24 (permalink)
voodoochile TDPRI Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Waukesha Wi. (Birthplace of Les Paul) Age: 37 Posts: 81 25 Photos	I'd just like to see the instructional DVD's! Those have to be packed with all kind of quality instruction... Step 1. Close any curtains that could allow your friends to see you. Step 2. Insert DVD Step 3. View intro of Esteban playing a different guitar with percussion, strings, and brass drowning him out. Step 4. Tune guitar & get your hopes up! Step 5. Hear the buzzing strings as you attempt first lesson (probably "House of the rising sun" like on the HSN) Step 6. Reality sets in... __________________ "Standin next to a mountain... chop it down with the edge of my hand"

February 10th, 2007, 03:02 PM	#25 (permalink)
studio1087 Friend of Leo's Join Date: May 2003 Location: Near Milwaukee Age: 44 Posts: 4,232 36 Photos	I played a used Esteban in a store. The black dye on the fretboard was wearing off, the rossete was a sticker, the action was horrible. I would honestly put the Esataban at 1/3 the quality of the $99 guitars that they sell at Walmart during the holidays. I get really upset becasue really nice moms and dads and grandparents are buying those things for kids with the best intentions in the world. They have no clue about the $200 Yamahas or Art & Lutherie or used Seagulls that exist. Nice people watch an infomercial and buy crap. I hope that the kids get a second guitar or a chance at learning music after dad finds out the he dropped $150 on a pig in a poke. It's as bad as the people who market "money making kits" to people who don't know better. If Esteban is so very skilled, he should record and tour. Stop selling crap. Another thing, he took two lessons from Segovia who called him Esteban (Spanish for Steve which is his real name). The whole PR thing about Steve being Sogovia's greatest life student and Segovia gave him the name Esteban out of admiration...blah blah blah blah. It's a real stretch. I met David Crosby once but I don't tell the world that I'm his protege. I think Steve's a crook. __________________ JLG Carry On