gibson has lost their minds

[SixStringSlinger]

Gibson need to realize that "new" models (read: LP's and SG's screwed with to varying degrees) will not get people buying. Now myself, I would do something crazy, like, make the old stuff better and lower the price. But then what do I know? I play a Strat.

[Geo]

Say what you want but no doubt all will be sold.
I mean for a metal guy this is like a meatball sub
with extra cheese, onions and peppers.

[Jeffscreamedcorn]

I used to go into my buddy's record store and complain the he'd mis-file Kenny G in jazz, to which he said "I'll put it wherever it'll sell!"

Have you seen the BFG Les Paul's? HORROR!! But the local shop says they've sold everyone they were sent. Apparently, somebody likes this stuff...

[durango jon-boy]

Originally Posted by quackerz

Fugly.

Got that right. Gibson. BOOOO!

[Bill]

As opposed to this understated example of Fender's guitar craft?

Fender Strat

[BritishBluesBoy]

Originally Posted by Bill

As opposed to this understated example of Fender's guitar craft?

Fender Strat

Ouch!

[lostpick]

then the John 5 tele??

or the new squarish Dano..

or better yet....

THE FENDER RED KNOBS

[lostpick]

Originally Posted by Stuco

What does BFG stand for, Burnt F-ing Guitar?

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/...ase_pid=512579





Just try to relic me...

[tele12]

Originally Posted by Stuco

But seriously, gibson's are overpriced

That guitar is $859 for a Made in USA set-neck guitar with a hardshell case. You can get Faded Flying V's or SG's also made in the USA for $579. The price of a Les Paul studio was lowered to $999.
Fender this year introduced the made in Mexico Classics at $799 retail, they raised the price of the MIM Jimmie Vaughan strat and the MIM Muddy Waters Tele to $650 retail. The MIA Hwy 1 Fenders go for $749 and the American series go for $949.
Maybe Gibsons used to be overpriced, but Gibson recently lowered the prices on their low cost models while Fender has raised their prices.

[lostpick]

[quote=tele12] You can get Faded Flying V's or SG's also made in the USA for $579.

Those are good guitars for the money...
especially the V...

and Fender further scrambles up the
product line divisions by reformatting
the Hwy 1s and raising std tele prices
while downgrading the PUPs

[Dave W]

A set neck Made In USA Les Paul model for under a grand? Nah, it'll never sell.

Metal? Nah, there's no market for metal.

I like it. And I'll bet Gibson cries all the way to the bank.

[OutlawSteph1975]

Can't we have a proper Gibson bashing thread on the TDPRI?

To the thread comedians.. you know who you are.. thanks for the laugh
today.. I needed that.

[Heather Anne Peel]

It's funny, 'cause I am a fan of so-called traditional guitars (Strats, Teles, Les Pauls, SGs, etc.), and when they were introduced they were seen as being ridiculous by a lot of people. The guitar in this thread is nothing more than a "Goth" Les Paul. Ooooo, HOW radical!!! Gimme a break! I bet it's well made and plays and sounds great, just like the John 5 Tele. I have a few "odd balls" in my collection (My Ampeg Dan Armstrong Plexi guitars, for example) and one that more conservative folks would surely cringe at, a white BC Rich Warlock! Guess what?! It's a great open E slide guitar, and sounds really great for Blues. Dave W is right, it'll sell like hotcakes!

[Rocker AK]

Originally Posted by lostpick

then the John 5 tele??

or the new squarish Dano..

or better yet....

THE FENDER RED KNOBS

Yes, the John 5 tele is another good idea gone bad. I can handle the body and all the chrome, but the headstock looks like.....well uhhhhmmm.........a p*nis. And that could be extremely distracting for some. I couldn't imagine trying to play a gig with that d@mned thing staring at me! It gives me the willies (no pun).

Add Comment - to Heather Anne Peele ^(above post)^. We posted at the same time so, I wasn't knocking you specifically. I just have impeccable timing.

[Stuco]

Originally Posted by tele12

That guitar is $859 for a Made in USA set-neck guitar with a hardshell case. You can get Faded Flying V's or SG's also made in the USA for $579. The price of a Les Paul studio was lowered to $999.
Fender this year introduced the made in Mexico Classics at $799 retail, they raised the price of the MIM Jimmie Vaughan strat and the MIM Muddy Waters Tele to $650 retail. The MIA Hwy 1 Fenders go for $749 and the American series go for $949.
Maybe Gibsons used to be overpriced, but Gibson recently lowered the prices on their low cost models while Fender has raised their prices.

You've got some very strong points but at the same time the gibson Standard LP (the standard among gibson electrics that's been around all along) has gone up in price. Just wanted to add that.

[TieDyedDevil]

I dunno. Have you ever taken a look at Gibson's one-off "art guitars". This LP Menace is one of Gibson's least ugly bad ideas by a long shot, IMO. ;)

[dB]

I kinda like it.


But not enough to buy it. And the fist IS a little goofy. I liked the little red skull on the Voodoo better.


dB

[PK]

I Like it! I doubt I'd ever own one, but it looks mean n nasty ta me. Thank god Gibson has the moxy to do something other than heritage sunburst or butterscotch or the run of the mill seen one ya seen em all colors n cuts. You hafta dare to be different! Hurray for Gibson as they deliver a variety of choices for a variety of tastes.

Quit whining and go back to your boring black guard!

PK

[David Barnett]

Ooh, it's menacing!

I wonder why they don't do a Goth version of the L5 or Super 400?

[JohnnyCrash]

Originally Posted by Bill

As opposed to this understated example of Fender's guitar craft?

Fender Strat

Exactly.

Fender has their weird freakish guitars too!

It's not for the average player, but I'm sure they'll still sell well - at least to the market that they're intended for.

Anytime Gibson comes up in nearly any forum, they're bashed for high prices. For what you get, they're easily worth the price.

I've owned as many guitars as the next guy, but without my Telecasters and three Gibsons (I'll be owning more of both Teles and Gibsons as soon as budget allows too!), I'd be a very unhappy guitar player. It really irks me to hear folks bash Gibson or say that Epiphones are of equal quality... especially after all of the fair shakes (5 or 6 owned, then sold) I've given Epiphone over the last decade or so.

Take your time saving up a few bucks, buy a Gibson, and don't be so bitter about the price tag! I haven't regretted spending the money after three times now, and am looking for more.

[Sarge]

Cool, I like it. It wouldn't replace my 81 Silverburst Custom though.

[franchelB]

I think it's a shame for Gibson to have sunk this low...not just for their bastardization of the Les Paul, but for their acoustics, and their trade policy with their dealers.

[Heather Anne Peel]

After all of this bashing, now, I'm actually looking forward to making a point to play one at Guitar Center soon. Who knows, maybe I'll like it so much I'll buy one!

[nasonm]

we should all remember that Fender plays the same game. maybe not at the price level that Gibson does, but in some cases....

C'mon,
a pro jr for 800+?
The Squier Obey Series

and neither comapny does anything to promote the development of new body styles, features, etc (except Gibson's new Digital LP which is about 15 years ahead of any of our gear).

So, although I'm a dyed in the wool fender fan, I just wanted to play devil's advocate.

[tiktok]

I'm not down with the inlays on the tribal, but the rest doesn't bother me. It wouldn't be my first choice, but I don't see it as a shark-jump.

That other thing (the BFG?), the unfinished one with no truss rod cover--that thing is hideous.

[stevedenver]

live and let live-

[byrdbrain]

In times like these we need to be reminded of the understated