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Old November 25th, 2006, 09:51 PM   #1 (permalink)
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It's - 42 degrees Celcius here

I've been stuck in the house since Wednesday. It's too cold to go outside. It takes 40 minutes for the car to heat up and my wheels stay square for 10 minutes. It was -45 celcius this morning but warmed up by 3 degrees to hit a tropical - 42

Anyway what ever happened to "global warming" ? It's an unusually normal winter here this year.

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Old November 25th, 2006, 09:54 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Holy Cr#p... That's just inhuman!... Move south man... and be quick about it!!!!
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Old November 25th, 2006, 09:57 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I was born and raised in Alaska. I had been living in Fairbanks for about 8 years before I moved here to California. Sometimes I get a little homesick for Alaska but not this time of year. I don't miss the cold at all. Especially dealing with a vehicle. People down here can't figure out why I have an electrical plug hanging out of the grill of my truck.
Good luck to you. Find something to take your mind off of the cold. Maybe some Wiser's Rye would help. Or a gambling trip to Dawson City.
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Old November 25th, 2006, 10:20 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I've been stuck in the house since Wednesday. It's too cold to go outside. It takes 40 minutes for the car to heat up and my wheels stay square for 10 minutes. It was -45 celcius this morning but warmed up by 3 degrees to hit a tropical - 42

Anyway what ever happened to "global warming" ? It's an unusually normal winter here this year.
What a contrast, it's +45oC here right now, holy cow, 87oC difference, think I'll stick to the heat.
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Old November 25th, 2006, 10:33 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I'm at -6ºC right now, but that will drop like rock in a few hours.
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Old November 25th, 2006, 11:22 PM   #6 (permalink)
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42 degrees Celcius

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Old November 25th, 2006, 11:26 PM   #7 (permalink)
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If I remember correctly the formula is your celcius number times 9 divided by 5 plus 32 = farenheit number. So I figure -42C is about -43F and 42C is about 107. Can that be right? I might be way off on my formula. I remember learning it in school but that was a long time ago.
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Old November 26th, 2006, 12:26 AM   #8 (permalink)
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If I remember right 32 degrees F. = 0 degrees C. So -42 is about ten degrees below zero Fahrenheit. Keep warm Stu!! That's even too cold for the Husky dogs!!

It was 40F here a few nights ago, and in the 60s during the day... a deep freeze by Florida standards but I love it.
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Old November 26th, 2006, 12:30 AM   #9 (permalink)
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-45 C == -49 F
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Old November 26th, 2006, 12:48 AM   #10 (permalink)
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It was warm enough here today(high 50's F), that I got to hang christmas lights outside in a short sleeve shirt. However, later next week the highs will only be in the 30's.
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Old November 26th, 2006, 01:27 AM   #11 (permalink)
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It's going down to -28C here tonight.

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Old November 26th, 2006, 01:33 AM   #12 (permalink)
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sheesh, its 6C here, and we're all complaining!
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Old November 26th, 2006, 09:22 AM   #13 (permalink)
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It's in the high 40's here in Simi Valley. Hopefully we'll get some rain tonight and tomorrow.

Warm weather rocks! Props to the many who have to dig their cars out just to go to work and/or to gigs.
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Old November 26th, 2006, 10:00 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Old November 26th, 2006, 10:40 AM   #15 (permalink)
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What a contrast, it's +45oC here right now, holy cow, 87oC difference, think I'll stick to the heat.
Hey Clive,
It's about 34oC here in Perth.....almost cold compared to you guy's..Ha!
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Old November 26th, 2006, 01:13 PM   #16 (permalink)
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For C to F conversion we were taught to double the temp and add 30. This never comes out exactly... but within a few degress.

So, 25C would be 25+25+30=80F degress. John s in Perth, AU said it was 34C that would be 98F.

But that makes Clive's 45c = 120F. That can't be right can it?

When it gets in the neg numbers it works the same. But in my simplified system it gets further and further off base as you move farther out to the extremes of temp.

I checked these temps in the converter and they were all off by 3 to 7 degress. But hey, it's a quick way to convert on the fly.

45c I had as 120F but it's 113F
25c I had as 80F but it's 77F
34c I had as 98F but it's 93
-42c I would have as -52F but it is -43
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Old November 26th, 2006, 01:21 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Convert it yourself

I use this link quite a bit. Here is the temp part of it.

http://onlineconversion.com/temperature.htm

Good luck and happy conversions
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Old November 26th, 2006, 02:28 PM   #18 (permalink)
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-42 degrees Celcius

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Not hot at all....
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Old November 26th, 2006, 03:01 PM   #19 (permalink)
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I like to use the Google calculator for conversions.

For example it is 12 C here now so I type "12 C in F" into the Google search box and the calculator kicks in with the answer instead of doing a regular search: "12 degrees Celsius = 53.6 degrees Fahrenheit"

One rule of thumb to keep in mind when considering cold temperatures is that -40 is the same temperature for both Celsius and Fahrenheit.
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Old November 26th, 2006, 03:32 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Anyway what ever happened to "global warming" ? It's an unusually normal winter here this year.
Global warming doesn't mean that it's going to be warmer everywhere, just that the Earth as a whole has more heat in it. Global warming is changing currents in the jet stream and in the sea, bringing warmer air and water to some places, making them warmer, but bringing colder air and water to others, making them colder.

It's also causing the ice caps to melt, putting more ice in the water, which makes some places even colder still.

It seems like mother nature is going through menopause with hot flashes one week and cold flashes another. I doubt that may of us will live long enough to see her even out again.

I wouldn't wish -42 on anyone. That's rough. Yeesh.
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Old November 26th, 2006, 04:10 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Well today it's -43 Celcius supposed to warm up by Tuesday. I think that is -47 Farhrenheit. Anyway it's a good excuse to play guitar all day.

The coldest I've ever experienced up here was -62 Celcius in Faro, Yukon. It was the first year I lived up here and was working in an open pit lead zinc mine. Three cold spells in a row lasting for two weeks each. We operated in those temperatures with very low equipment availabilty. Huge cracks began developing in the booms of our shovels. All three had to be rebuilt the following spring and summer. It is a bizarre thing, but you can feel sources of warmth from great distances at these temperatures. I can remember being able to feel the heat off the haul trucks from about 50 feet away as they passed by.

I've lived here for a little over 12 years, the old timers tell me hitting -70 was not an unusual thing to see 20 years ago. It sounds barbaric but it is very tolerable if you are dressed for it. Very little wind here. I betcha a cold winter Winter near Lake Superior say in northern Minnesota is far worse.

Thanks for the concern.
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Old November 26th, 2006, 04:27 PM   #22 (permalink)
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It's no wonder Celsius never quite caught on here...

Just curious, StuH...whaddya do for heat, and how much does it cost? Here in VA my gas bill for last February was about $350...I can only imagine what that would be at -40C..
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Old November 26th, 2006, 04:41 PM   #23 (permalink)
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For C to F conversion we were taught to double the temp and add 30. This never comes out exactly... but within a few degress.

So, 25C would be 25+25+30=80F degress. John s in Perth, AU said it was 34C that would be 98F.

But that makes Clive's 45c = 120F. That can't be right can it?

When it gets in the neg numbers it works the same. But in my simplified system it gets further and further off base as you move farther out to the extremes of temp.

I checked these temps in the converter and they were all off by 3 to 7 degress. But hey, it's a quick way to convert on the fly.

45c I had as 120F but it's 113F
25c I had as 80F but it's 77F
34c I had as 98F but it's 93
-42c I would have as -52F but it is -43
The formula to calculate the degrees in farenheit from degrees in celsius;

(degrees in celsius * 9) /5 + 32 = degrees in Farenheit.
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Old November 26th, 2006, 04:52 PM   #24 (permalink)
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It's no wonder Celsius never quite caught on here...

Just curious, StuH...whaddya do for heat, and how much does it cost? Here in VA my gas bill for last February was about $350...I can only imagine what that would be at -40C..
Well there are only two in my house. Our heat is electric. I have my power bill averaged based on a full years use so I ended up paying $240Cdn (216USD) per month. That's heat, lights and hot water;the works. My lights run me about $80 bucks a month, and to keep the car plugged in is about $25 bucks so that's about $135 per month or about $1620 per year for heat and hot water.

Most people here have wood stoves. For a real cold year in a medium sized house say 2000 sq ft you are looking at 10 cords at about $150 per cord for $1500 per year.

I lived in a place that had oil heat about 9 years ago. That would cost me about 1200 bucks a year to fill, I would dare to say at todays prices it would cost well over $2000 a year for oil in this house. Propane is not an option as it gels in these temperatures.

All in all electric heat is economical here provided your house is energy efficient.
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Global warming doesn't mean that it's going to be warmer everywhere, just that the Earth as a whole has more heat in it. Global warming is changing currents in the jet stream and in the sea, bringing warmer air and water to some places, making them warmer, but bringing colder air and water to others, making them colder.
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It hovers just above freezing most of the winter here with perhaps a few weeks just below. Lots of drizzle and rain.
But even though I grew up in Canada (albeit in the southern Ontario 'banana belt') I was never as uncomfortable as I am here. This chilly dampness goes right into you.
Well below freezing but dry would be preferable.
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The formula to calculate the degrees in farenheit from degrees in celsius;

(degrees in celsius * 9) /5 + 32 = degrees in Farenheit.
Yeah, as I said. I'll take my "rough" formula for it's ease of calculating on the fly.
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the coldest I`ve ever experienced was -40 around the Lesser Slave lake area in Alberta. Worked for Chevron at the time...outdoors, I was with the survey crew looking for oil. We had to keep the trucks running all night...hey it was Chevron...gas and diesel fuel wasn`t a problem. It was 15 minutes outside and back in the truck to warm up `cause any exposed parts begin to freeze and facial hair white and frosty. Loved the job inspite of the cold...saw lots of wildlife and during moose season saw plenty of them along the cut trails through the forest made by the native Canadian cat skinners. Sometimes just saw the piles of innerds the hunters left behind... hey, closest supermarket was 200 kilometers away...kids want meat ya gotta shoot it. Great times...haven`t thought about that for a while. Don`t miss the -40 though.
-40C is = -40 F...whatever way ya look at it...it was frickin` cold eh.
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Old November 27th, 2006, 06:48 AM   #29 (permalink)
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The coldest I've ever experienced up here was -62 Celcius in Faro, Yukon.
OK, I get off here. You are mad!

I've only "done" around -40C. That's was when I was living just off the polar circle here in Finland. It is and was way too cold for me! I don't even bicycle when it gets below -25C.

Anyway, we've had 7C now for a few weeks. No snow in sight.
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Here in Pittsbugh it's been in the 60's since Wednesday and it's supposed to continue. The Harley's gettin' lots of miles on her, but snow is commin' Friday.
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I can never remember the formula for converting from C to F. I can remember that the boiling point of water is 212F/100C and the freezing point is 32F/0C. I just set C as the independant variable and use the linear equation:

y=mx+b.

m = dy/dx = (212-32)/(100-0) = 1.8.

Using the freezing point coordinates, you get 32 for the y intercept:

F = 1.8C + 32.

Knowing a few fundamentals is much easier than remembering a bunch of formulas.
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