...where have all the "Nighthawk"s gone???

bluetele54 · September 23rd, 2006, 05:53 PM

...not the band,but the Gibson guitars that were Fender scale...I have,and prefer,the 2 pickup model(mine's in black)...they just seemed to have disappeared...I,for a time,used this guitar all the time,and it was pretty versitile...I like the Firebird-like neck pickup,full and split, the middle position is very Strat-like,and the bridge full is very powerful and midrangy,split,very Tele like...you just don't see many around,where'd they go???...does anyone care???

NEPATelecaster · September 23rd, 2006, 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bluetele54

...not the band,but the Gibson guitars that were Fender scale...I have,and prefer,the 2 pickup model(mine's in black)...they just seemed to have disappeared...I,for a time,used this guitar all the time,and it was pretty versitile...I like the Firebird-like neck pickup,full and split, the middle position is very Strat-like,and the bridge full is very powerful and midrangy,split,very Tele like...you just don't see many around,where'd they go???...does anyone care???

The player in my band has a red "Blueshawk" uses it all the time.

zombywoof · September 23rd, 2006, 06:49 PM

Local music shop had one for sale a couple of months back. Got to do a bit of a test drive and did like it. If I recall, it ended up going out in a trade for some kind of a LP.

do not be afraid · September 23rd, 2006, 07:17 PM

musicians friend has blueshawks, and apparently has no shortage of supply, or word on them being discontinued, while nobody else has them. that has happened to a lot of underperforming gibsons recently, and for most them i've heard from reputable people, websites, etc, that they've become "musician's friend exclusives", and i suspect that's what's happened here.

Big Tony · September 23rd, 2006, 07:43 PM

Robert died in 1967...

He was good.

/ Tony

bluetele54 · September 23rd, 2006, 10:39 PM

...I'm aware the Blueshawks are available,but I'm talking about "NIGHTHAWK"S,which is a very different guitar...

bluetele54 · September 23rd, 2006, 10:56 PM

..."Sweet Little Angel"...there's a wonderful early '70's collection on Chess that has a couple of his tunes,and that's where I heard him first...Earl Hooker claimed that Nighthawk was a strong influence...such a sweet slide sound...but,now,about the guitars...

Glen W · September 23rd, 2006, 11:31 PM

From a 1994 ad...

zombywoof · September 24th, 2006, 12:36 AM

Nah, the one the dealer here had was definitely a 2 pickup Nighthawk - only one I had ever laid my hands on. I came close to buying it.

televiking · September 24th, 2006, 04:58 AM

Well, the nighthawks??

Of course the nighthawks are at the diner
http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/...CLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

txspreacher · September 24th, 2006, 10:16 AM

Everytime I look on gbase, there's a few Nighthawks and even the plain jane "Hawk" model up for sale.

NEPATelecaster · September 24th, 2006, 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bluetele54

...I'm aware the Blueshawks are available,but I'm talking about "NIGHTHAWK"S,which is a very different guitar...

Are they that different?

bluetele54 · September 24th, 2006, 02:56 PM

...the "Nighthawk" has either a 2 or 3 pickup configuration with coil-splittable humbucking pickups...I prefer the 2 pickup version...the "Blueshawk",on the other hand,has 2 P-90 style pickups,and a veri-tone switch similar to an ES-345,355...plus a couple of "F" holes to give it a semi-hollow vibe...look at the above post that shows a '94 ad for the "Nighthawk"...because it has a Fender scale,it has a familiar feel,and I just love the neck pickup,which is a splittable "Firebird" style pickup...the "Nighthawk" is light and has a nice neck profile...check it!!!

crawdad · September 24th, 2006, 09:07 PM

I'd hate to have to find a replacement bridge pickup for the Nighthawk. I think thats the thing that scared me away from buying one in the first place. I have always wanted to try one.

sdmyers · September 24th, 2006, 09:41 PM

I have a 1993 2-pu Nighthawk Special. 2 hums and minimal trim level, body binding but no neck binding. It does some great single-coil type sounds in addition to the usual creamy hum tones. The bridge pu is plenty hot. Neck is a mini-hum. Neck seems fatter than my modern Fender or G&Ls with a flatter radius. Discontinued in 1999, I think. Actually, it's quite a hot rod, especially if you can't afford a higher end Gibson. I don't use it as I prefer the Strats and Teles in my arsenal. I should take it down to a dealer and see if I can trade it off. The humbucker guys should like it.

Best,
sdmyers

do not be afraid · September 26th, 2006, 02:51 PM

anyways, this thread sort of got away from me, but:

Quote:

Originally Posted by bluetele54

...I'm aware the Blueshawks are available,but I'm talking about "NIGHTHAWK"S,which is a very different guitar...

sorry for the confusion. i thought you meant the entire "nighthawk" family of guitars, which is larger than the "nighthawk" itself, and includes the "blueshawk", and others, which is why you asked about the "nighthawks", rather than just the "nighthawk". my point was that one guitar in that family was still available, but only at muscian's friend (as far as i'm aware.)

September 23rd, 2006, 05:53 PM	#1 (permalink)
bluetele54 Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: valley village Age: 55 Posts: 1,490	...where have all the "Nighthawk"s gone??? ...not the band,but the Gibson guitars that were Fender scale...I have,and prefer,the 2 pickup model(mine's in black)...they just seemed to have disappeared...I,for a time,used this guitar all the time,and it was pretty versitile...I like the Firebird-like neck pickup,full and split, the middle position is very Strat-like,and the bridge full is very powerful and midrangy,split,very Tele like...you just don't see many around,where'd they go???...does anyone care???

September 23rd, 2006, 06:49 PM	#3 (permalink)
zombywoof Friend of Leo's Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Back in the Heartland Posts: 2,903 17 Photos	Local music shop had one for sale a couple of months back. Got to do a bit of a test drive and did like it. If I recall, it ended up going out in a trade for some kind of a LP. __________________ "I don't play a lot of fancy guitar. I don't want to play it. The kind of guitar I want to play is mean, mean licks." John Lee Hooker

September 23rd, 2006, 07:43 PM	#5 (permalink)
Big Tony Friend of Leo's Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Sweden, by golly! Posts: 2,522 28 Photos	Off topic Robert died in 1967... He was good. / Tony __________________ {8^)> myspace.com/tonypersson

September 23rd, 2006, 10:39 PM	#6 (permalink)
bluetele54 Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: valley village Age: 55 Posts: 1,490	..."Blueshawks" yes,but "Nighthawks" no ...I'm aware the Blueshawks are available,but I'm talking about "NIGHTHAWK"S,which is a very different guitar...

September 23rd, 2006, 10:56 PM	#7 (permalink)
bluetele54 Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: valley village Age: 55 Posts: 1,490	...and yes,Robert Nighthawk WAS good!!! ..."Sweet Little Angel"...there's a wonderful early '70's collection on Chess that has a couple of his tunes,and that's where I heard him first...Earl Hooker claimed that Nighthawk was a strong influence...such a sweet slide sound...but,now,about the guitars...

September 23rd, 2006, 07:17 PM	#4 (permalink)
do not be afraid Tele-Meister Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: temple terrace, florida Age: 20 Posts: 449	musicians friend has blueshawks, and apparently has no shortage of supply, or word on them being discontinued, while nobody else has them. that has happened to a lot of underperforming gibsons recently, and for most them i've heard from reputable people, websites, etc, that they've become "musician's friend exclusives", and i suspect that's what's happened here.

September 23rd, 2006, 11:31 PM	#8 (permalink)
Glen W Tele-Holic Join Date: May 2003 Location: CT Age: 59 Posts: 809 12 Photos	From a 1994 ad... __________________ Go big... or stay home.

September 24th, 2006, 12:36 AM	#9 (permalink)
zombywoof Friend of Leo's Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Back in the Heartland Posts: 2,903 17 Photos	Nah, the one the dealer here had was definitely a 2 pickup Nighthawk - only one I had ever laid my hands on. I came close to buying it. __________________ "I don't play a lot of fancy guitar. I don't want to play it. The kind of guitar I want to play is mean, mean licks." John Lee Hooker

September 24th, 2006, 04:58 AM	#10 (permalink)
televiking Tele-Meister Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Finland, Helsinki Age: 37 Posts: 479 18 Photos	Well, the nighthawks?? Of course the nighthawks are at the diner http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/...CLZZZZZZZ_.jpg __________________ "As soon as you start playing to impress other musicians, you have completely lost the whole point of playing music." Keith Richards

September 24th, 2006, 10:16 AM	#11 (permalink)
txspreacher Friend of Leo's Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: TEXAS Age: 41 Posts: 2,070	Everytime I look on gbase, there's a few Nighthawks and even the plain jane "Hawk" model up for sale. __________________ It ain't the years, it's the miles.... - Greg

September 24th, 2006, 02:56 PM	#13 (permalink)
bluetele54 Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: valley village Age: 55 Posts: 1,490	...very different!!!... ...the "Nighthawk" has either a 2 or 3 pickup configuration with coil-splittable humbucking pickups...I prefer the 2 pickup version...the "Blueshawk",on the other hand,has 2 P-90 style pickups,and a veri-tone switch similar to an ES-345,355...plus a couple of "F" holes to give it a semi-hollow vibe...look at the above post that shows a '94 ad for the "Nighthawk"...because it has a Fender scale,it has a familiar feel,and I just love the neck pickup,which is a splittable "Firebird" style pickup...the "Nighthawk" is light and has a nice neck profile...check it!!!

September 24th, 2006, 09:07 PM	#14 (permalink)
crawdad Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,296	I'd hate to have to find a replacement bridge pickup for the Nighthawk. I think thats the thing that scared me away from buying one in the first place. I have always wanted to try one.

September 24th, 2006, 09:41 PM	#15 (permalink)
sdmyers TDPRI Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 10	I have a 1993 2-pu Nighthawk Special. 2 hums and minimal trim level, body binding but no neck binding. It does some great single-coil type sounds in addition to the usual creamy hum tones. The bridge pu is plenty hot. Neck is a mini-hum. Neck seems fatter than my modern Fender or G&Ls with a flatter radius. Discontinued in 1999, I think. Actually, it's quite a hot rod, especially if you can't afford a higher end Gibson. I don't use it as I prefer the Strats and Teles in my arsenal. I should take it down to a dealer and see if I can trade it off. The humbucker guys should like it. Best, sdmyers