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Old July 11th, 2013, 01:16 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Fluid ears

What the Anne Heche can cure fluid in the ears? Got steroid nasal spray + antibiotics. Sinus infection. Any ideas? Thanks!

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Old July 11th, 2013, 05:54 AM   #2 (permalink)
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time... and more time... the last time i had fluid in my ear, it lasted almost two months..
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Old July 11th, 2013, 06:01 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Is it just like water trapped in the outer ear somewhere? like when you go in pool? or do you have an ear infection?

When I used to surf a lot, I would get water trapped in the outer ear and what I would do is soak a wash cloth in very warm water (not too hot) and then lay on my head flat on the opposite ear and squeeze just a dew drops of warm water into the affected ear. For some reason this breaks the air bubble that is trapping the water in the outer ear, then you just sit upright and all the water should come rushing out.
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This spring I had a bad problem with fluid in my ears. The doctor said to give it time, but I also found a YouTube video showing how to massage area that would help drain them. Seemed to work for me after a couple of days. Try searching "ear fluid" and "massage".
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Old July 11th, 2013, 08:16 AM   #5 (permalink)
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It could be that acid reflux is causing inflammation in the throat where the tube from the ears drain causing it to close up. Could also be a reaction to dairy. Most docs miss both of those possible causes. I finally found a physicians assistant that figured out the reflux thing. If it is caused by reflux the drugs prescribed for it are useless. Eliminating nightshade veggies and taking apple cider vinegar finally cured me from nearly a year of partial deafness.
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Old July 11th, 2013, 09:16 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Great help y'all, will report back!
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Old July 11th, 2013, 12:57 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Swimmers ear?

A little rubbing alcohol will dry that up.
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Old July 11th, 2013, 01:15 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Take 2 benadryl every 6 hours, this has worked better for me than anything else in clearing up ear infections, and a large bottle of generic benadryl can be had for about a dollar.

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Old July 11th, 2013, 02:02 PM   #9 (permalink)
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isnt the hair dyer trick a good one?
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Old July 11th, 2013, 02:21 PM   #10 (permalink)
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I swam in a cattle stock tank when I was about 14 years old. Little did I know that I would get an infection in the ear. The whole church group was swimming there. They had tire inner tubes, diving platform and a slide. So, it was setup as a redneck swimming pool.

It took a long time for me to put 2+2 together and realize that is where I had gotten the ear ache. I put off getting it looked at for 20+ years. The examinations eventually lead to ear surgery to scrape the mastoid bone free from the chronic infection. That surgery was around 20 years ago. I STILL have fluid in the ear constantly. Sometimes I am only able to hear 20% out of the bad ear. That of coarse plays havoc on me when performing on stage.

The worst days are when the fluid pops in & out every few minutes. My ear will open up and I can hear EVERY detail and frequency. But then, it eventually closes up again. On average, I hear 40% about 90% of the time out of the bad ear.

So, you may be asking, "Why the heck don't you get that fixed?". Frankly, the first surgery was not pleasant, but tolerable. But the follow-up surgery six months later was PURE HELL. I never want to volunteer myself to go through that again. As a result, the lesser evil to me, is dealing with the crappy hearing.
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Old July 11th, 2013, 02:51 PM   #11 (permalink)
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If it is already infected antibiotics.
If just after swimming or being water boarded use Swimeze ear drops; which will dry them out. Once you are prone to this, it will happen again. I use the drops right after swimming.
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Old July 11th, 2013, 02:58 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I guess the point of my long post was, surgery was the most recommended solution. Antibiotics could not get circulated through the mastoid bone where the deep infection thrived.

I am not saying that 1955's water in the ear is caused by a mastoid infection. However, most of the advise is coming from non-doctors. It may be best to see a doctor for the correct solution.
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Old July 11th, 2013, 04:40 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Does it feel like you want to hold your nose and blow to pop your ears like you do on an airplane? Do you also have ringing? If so, we may be experiencing the same thing.

This is my story. I don’t mean to hijack your thread but I’ll tell this story in case it helps you or anyone else.

I never get sick but I did toward the end of November of last year. Then I got sick again at the end of December. Both times my doctor gave me antibiotics. (I was really run down from both extreme stress and lack of sleep.)

I then went in for a yearly physical some time in March. I mentioned that I had occasional pressure and ringing in my ears so he had his nurse set up an appointment with an Ear, Nose and Throat doctor. Well, the doctor was booked so I went to see the nurse practitioner.

The NP x-rayed my head and said I had a completely blocked sinus and that it looked like a sinus infection. I mentioned that I didn’t feel bad and she said that I probably did feel bad but had felt bad for so long that it was the new normal. I told her that I had already been through two rounds of antibiotics and she said that a sinus infection usually takes a longer dosage.

So she prescribes a two-week dosage of antibiotics and gives me some Nasonex samples. (Thank you for the samples – the AB cost $140!) She said to come back and see her in a month.

So I go back, she x-rays me and says it is still there. She then orders a CT scan.

Now I might mention at this point that I have been under employed since late 2008 and get no benefits. I have to buy my own health insurance and when the laws changed my premium went up so high I had to take a $6000 deductable just to have any health insurance. My point is, I am paying for all of this on a part time salary. The CT was $700 alone!

So OK, she takes the CT and says you have “some sort” of sinus disease. We better get you into surgery. So she schedules me for surgery in a month.

In the meantime I go back to see my doctor who says, “Let me get this straight, you see a NP twice and she schedules you for surgery? Run.” My doctor suggested that I keep the pre-operative surgery with the actual doctor and see what he says.

So when I speak to the doctor he steps through the CT and says that one sinus is completely clogged because the opening “probably” is swelled shut. He also said that my sinuses were never formed properly and that surgery would fix all this up.

I asked him if this would explain the pressure and the ringing. He said that it looked like my Eustachian tubes were clear but that the sinus problem might be causing the pressure but not the ringing. He said that I would need to see an ENT that specializes in ears for that. (So now you have specialists within specialty fields; each of which require separate office visits and subsequent charges….great.) He suggested that I get a MRI. He said that I might be growing cysts and that there are some new surgeries to fix this problem. Has anyone priced MRIs lately? Not cheap.

Surgery would definitely max out my deductible and would make me miss a lot of work. Plus I don’t even know if it would fix my symptoms. So I ask if there are any alternatives. He said we could try prednisone and another round of antibiotics and see…but he didn’t think it would work but that it would be the most conservative route. So I opted for the drugs. Another $150. (Plus the prednisone made me nervous as a cat!)

After the second round of antibiotics and prednisone I still feel basically the same. The pressure and ringing isn’t as often now but it still shows up.

At the time of my visit, I asked the ENT to send his information over to my doctor. Being that I was still having issues and was considering surgery I thought I better call my doctor and see what he thought. When I called my doctors office I get his nurse. She looks at the chart and says that the ENT spoke with my doctor and that my doctor says get a second opinion. Ok…. hmmm

So I get a second opinion and this second says that the first guy was essentially right but that by his estimation I have had this issue with my sinus for a long time. He said that if there was a growth or a mass – as the first doctor implied – that it would be pushing the walls of my sinus outward and that this wasn’t. He also said that he could not say definitively whether my sinus issue was causing the pressure in my ears but that he was also pretty certain I would need to see an ear specialist for the ringing.

So now I am back to where I started – collectively $1000 poorer – wondering if I should get a MRI. As it is, I am just trying to wait it out.

The first ENT gave (sold) me a can of nasamist which is essentially a 2.7% solution of saline in a pressurized can. I squirt it up my nose twice a day and then blow out anything up there.

I frankly don’t know what to do other than to go find an “ear” specialist and start the whole process all over. If I am going to spend two to three thousand for a MRI I might as well go for the sinus surgery and the ear surgery because I will definitely hit my deductible. Maybe I’ll have my knee fixed while I am at it. Too bad I’ll have to sell a kidney to pay for it. All kidding aside… I just wish I knew.
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I have had amazing results with NeilMed Sinus rinses http://www.neilmed.com/usa/sinusrinse_isotonic.php. Follow the directions and do it slowly with clean warm water (or distilled water if you don't trust yours). Best thing I have ever used for my sinuses and allergies by far. Might be worth a shot.
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I swam in a cattle stock tank when I was about 14 years old. Little did I know that I would get an infection in the ear. The whole church group was swimming there. They had tire inner tubes, diving platform and a slide. So, it was setup as a redneck swimming pool.

It took a long time for me to put 2+2 together and realize that is where I had gotten the ear ache. I put off getting it looked at for 20+ years. The examinations eventually lead to ear surgery to scrape the mastoid bone free from the chronic infection. That surgery was around 20 years ago. I STILL have fluid in the ear constantly. Sometimes I am only able to hear 20% out of the bad ear. That of coarse plays havoc on me when performing on stage.

The worst days are when the fluid pops in & out every few minutes. My ear will open up and I can hear EVERY detail and frequency. But then, it eventually closes up again. On average, I hear 40% about 90% of the time out of the bad ear.

So, you may be asking, "Why the heck don't you get that fixed?". Frankly, the first surgery was not pleasant, but tolerable. But the follow-up surgery six months later was PURE HELL. I never want to volunteer myself to go through that again. As a result, the lesser evil to me, is dealing with the crappy hearing.
Man I have a story almost like yours but ended up with a brain abscess.Two months in the hospital and then 10 hours of surgery and I have about 30%hearing in that ear.
Ear infections are not something you want to treat with home remedies.Forget the regular doctor..pass go and get to an ENT.
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Musicians should make their hearing health a priority.

I'm guilty of letting an ear infection "let it ride" mentality.
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Old July 21st, 2013, 02:24 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Quick update, thanks for the stories and suggestions everyone!

Allergic rhinitis=sinusitis+crazy rain/temp swings/mold/altitude changes/saline rinses/shower, etc., probably caused the buildup of fluid.

Tried the alcohol drops, irrigation, etc. other suggestions, but since it was middle ear, it couldn't get to it to evaporate. I was basically without hearing in one ear for several shows, and my eardrum was under constant pressure and needed to be equalized constantly.

I drank a lot of fluids and went more towards an alkaline diet to speed things along.

1 round of Augmentin + Flo-nase steroid spray, 10 days, still cloudy fluid in one of my ears (middle ear). Doing gigs back & forth in the mountains, yeesh.

Did antihistamines, steroid spray daily, anti-inflamm, decongestants, etc.

So, doc goes with Levofloxaxin, 5 day, (strongest antibiotic in pull form?) i have 1 more day left of it.

Fluid is mostly gone now!

Thanks all!!!
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