I really dont get it (serious rant content).

simonc · October 5th, 2005, 10:17 AM

I just got home from Fremantle (the local cafe strip) after a date with a gal that I have known for awhile (no folks not the doctor

).The night was going fine , watchin the cricket & eatin dinner, finished up with coffee & a nice stroll down to the art gallery down the street.
(this is where things go well F**KED UP).
we walk through a group of thugs , & one gives me the hip & shoulder.Now my whole life I have made a concerted effort to avoid fighting.But I have seen this move one too many times, so I knew what was coming next(the king hit).so I turned to see if it was actually coming, (it was) but I managed to avoid coppping it on the cranium , instead got a shiner on the bottom lip.****ing *******s in this world i tell you what.5 guys standing there saying " come on make something of it tough guy" (actually worse than that, but you get the drift).What is 1 guy who is lookin out for the gal he's with gonna do? I was mad as a cut snake I tell you, but not having any broken teeth, & just a cut up lip , I just said"take it easy- what do you think youre doing? you wanna prove how tough you are? theres 5 of you & 1 of me" then walked off.I know this may sound like a wussy thing to do, but all I cared bout was my date getting the hell outta there safely.
What makes A**holes do something like this? do they see a guy out with a girl & think "oh lets F*** up his night"?!? WTF y'know?

& more importantly , where is a nice slab of Alder when you need it(ie a tele).

now to put on some Pantera.ah, sweet metal eases the pain.....

popthree · October 5th, 2005, 10:30 AM

it took more of a man to do exactly what you did, than the alternative. congrats, and good show.

Poppatwang · October 5th, 2005, 10:37 AM

I'd have that lady doctor take a look at my lip.
For professional opinion ya know.

genelovesjez · October 5th, 2005, 10:54 AM

If it's any consolation, I'm sure the gal you were with was far more impressed with the way you handled it than if you had gotten into a fight.

The way I look at it, we can't control what other people do, we can only control what we do, and you did the right thing.

But you're right, it does suck. Compensating for a sense of inadequacy can really take its toll on the rest of us.

telesteve · October 5th, 2005, 12:18 PM

I take the stand that it's better to walk away and be thought a wuss than to shoot five jerks and end up as Big Toby's roommate for 20 years.

ye olde fretmonkey · October 5th, 2005, 12:33 PM

That kind of thing can be very, very difficult to put out of one's head, though. You did the right thing by walking away.

jhundt · October 5th, 2005, 12:34 PM

There was no other way to go. That wasn't a movie; we all love action movies where the hero blows guys like that away with a big old pistol - but in real life that doesn't work. Too messy, plus who wants to carry a big old gat around all the time?

I'm glad you got out quick with minimal damage. I'm sure your friend is, too.

Funny thing: why do guys do that stuff? Have you ever met a girl who was impressed by the incredible manliness of a drunken wanker who hangs out with 5 other drunks and tries to start fights? I haven't.

You made a quick decision to walk on and avoid further trouble. If you tried something else you would have lost because they had numerical superiority.

In addition - you just plain did the right thing. People don't have to fight for nothing. I am no church-type, but I know how JC would've handled it, and you did it too.

Tim Armstrong · October 5th, 2005, 01:25 PM

Yep, you handled a very unpleasant situation just right. Sorry you had to handle it at all...

Cheers, Tim

Oskar · October 5th, 2005, 01:35 PM

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I know this may sound like a wussy thing to do, but all I cared bout was my date getting the hell outta there safely.

Don't put yourself down by thinking this was a wussy move. On the contrary, the whole macho thing is WAY overrated at best, and pretty lame to boot. I've known more guys who have ended up having their face rearranged because they just couldn't walk away.
In my book you did the honorable and best thing, as supported by others here. Violence solves damn little, if anything.

txspreacher · October 5th, 2005, 02:28 PM

I think guys that do that sort of thing have listened to too much Pantera.........ok! I'm just kidding........You did the right thing, as others have said. Including coming here to rant about it. It helps clear your head and you're around a pretty mild-mannered group here. Sorry you had to endure that, bro...but, glad you took the high road. That can take a pretty big set, IMO. You got the lady out of there safely, bottom line.

Joe-Bob · October 5th, 2005, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by telesteve

I take the stand that it's better to walk away and be thought a wuss than to shoot five jerks and end up as Big Toby's roommate for 20 years.

No, it would have been self defense.

genelovesjez · October 5th, 2005, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe-Bob

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Originally Posted by telesteve

I take the stand that it's better to walk away and be thought a wuss than to shoot five jerks and end up as Big Toby's roommate for 20 years.

No, it would have been self defense.

Really? Maybe for Bernard Goetz (sp?), but not in the real world.

Smokin' Joe Picante · October 5th, 2005, 06:43 PM

Sorry you had to endure that kind of crap, but you rose above and kept your lady, dignity, and class in one piece. Good for you!

Karma will take care of those jack*sses, believe me.

simonc · October 5th, 2005, 07:05 PM

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I think guys that do that sort of thing have listened to too much Pantera.........ok! I'm just kidding

:) I realised the irony of listening to pantera after I got home....

my lip has balooned out thismorning, gonna be a tough day at work, have got to train up a group of people on a system & can hardly talk without biting my lip.

thanks for the words lads , Im still mad, If I was out with some male friends , it never woulda happend.

hope those Karma Police swing into action soon.

cheers,
Simmo.

txspreacher · October 5th, 2005, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by genelovesjez

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Originally Posted by Joe-Bob

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Originally Posted by telesteve

I take the stand that it's better to walk away and be thought a wuss than to shoot five jerks and end up as Big Toby's roommate for 20 years.

No, it would have been self defense.

Really? Maybe for Bernard Goetz (sp?), but not in the real world.

Last time I checked, that incident occurred in the real world, friend. Our man Simonc had a rough one, we all offered a little encouragement. It was nice...let's not turn it into some bleeding-heart rant.

BTW, if the individual's life is in danger...it IS self defense.

Reno Sepulveda · October 5th, 2005, 09:10 PM

The lip will heal, the ego takes longer but it heals up pretty good too. Take consolation in knowing the guy that did this will get it all back one day.

You're in Austrailia so you probably know all about a guy named Nat Young Now there's a guy that had it coming.

geddins · October 5th, 2005, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by txspreacher

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Originally Posted by genelovesjez

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Originally Posted by Joe-Bob

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Originally Posted by telesteve

I take the stand that it's better to walk away and be thought a wuss than to shoot five jerks and end up as Big Toby's roommate for 20 years.

No, it would have been self defense.

Really? Maybe for Bernard Goetz (sp?), but not in the real world.

Last time I checked, that incident occurred in the real world, friend. Our man Simonc had a rough one, we all offered a little encouragement. It was nice...let's not turn it into some bleeding-heart rant.

BTW, if the individual's life is in danger...it IS self defense.

Very well said....

genelovesjez · October 6th, 2005, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by txspreacher

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Originally Posted by genelovesjez

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Originally Posted by Joe-Bob

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Originally Posted by telesteve

I take the stand that it's better to walk away and be thought a wuss than to shoot five jerks and end up as Big Toby's roommate for 20 years.

No, it would have been self defense.

Really? Maybe for Bernard Goetz (sp?), but not in the real world.

Last time I checked, that incident occurred in the real world, friend. Our man Simonc had a rough one, we all offered a little encouragement. It was nice...let's not turn it into some bleeding-heart rant.

BTW, if the individual's life is in danger...it IS self defense.

Bleeding-heart rant? What the hell?

I think the fact that he survived without shooting anyone suggests ipso facto that his life was not in danger.

And if the individual's life is not in danger, it IS NOT self defense, whatever your politics.

But thanks for trying to take this one off the rails, friend.

Bleeding heart rant. Sheesh.

simonc · October 6th, 2005, 12:40 AM

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txspreacher wrote:
genelovesjez wrote:
Joe-Bob wrote:
telesteve wrote:
I take the stand that it's better to walk away and be thought a wuss than to shoot five jerks and end up as Big Toby's roommate for 20 years.

No, it would have been self defense.

Really? Maybe for Bernard Goetz (sp?), but not in the real world.

Last time I checked, that incident occurred in the real world, friend. Our man Simonc had a rough one, we all offered a little encouragement. It was nice...let's not turn it into some bleeding-heart rant.

BTW, if the individual's life is in danger...it IS self defense.

Bleeding-heart rant? What the hell?

I think the fact that he survived without shooting anyone suggests ipso facto that his life was not in danger.

And if the individual's life is not in danger, it IS NOT self defense, whatever your politics.

But thanks for trying to take this one off the rails, friend.

Bleeding heart rant. Sheesh.

Uh...yeah ok... :D I wasnt in a life threatening situ, so I dont think a shooting was warranted.Servere ass kicking? you bet.If I EVER see his face around without the meathead patrol, He'll know all about it.I dont take a punch in the gob with good humour.

genelovesjez · October 6th, 2005, 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by simonc

Uh...yeah ok... :D I wasnt in a life threatening situ, so I dont think a shooting was warranted.Servere ass kicking? you bet.If I EVER see his face around without the meathead patrol, He'll know all about it.I dont take a punch in the gob with good humour.

Me neither. I wish I could help you find him.

simonc · October 6th, 2005, 04:14 AM

I know the rest of my mug is a mess too - but the lip is where the damage lies.

http://www.geocities.com/symen79/DSC00717.JPG

just thought id add, tho it doesnt look like much, there is a whole lotta bruizn goin on inside...tho it wsa hard to hold my mouth open & take photo.

captain gorgeous · October 6th, 2005, 04:59 AM

yowch!

dude - that looks nasty!

fwiw - it sounds like you handled it pretty much perfectly and with considerable dignity. it'd unbelievable that people who act that way are free to roam in society.

if a dog behaved that way it'd be put-down.

you know the song fight test by the flaming lips? it's appropriate for more than one reason right now.

October 5th, 2005, 10:17 AM	#1 (permalink)
simonc Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Perth Western Australia Age: 29 Posts: 1,438 4 Photos	I really dont get it (serious rant content). I just got home from Fremantle (the local cafe strip) after a date with a gal that I have known for awhile (no folks not the doctor ).The night was going fine , watchin the cricket & eatin dinner, finished up with coffee & a nice stroll down to the art gallery down the street. (this is where things go well FKED UP). we walk through a group of thugs , & one gives me the hip & shoulder.Now my whole life I have made a concerted effort to avoid fighting.But I have seen this move one too many times, so I knew what was coming next(the king hit).so I turned to see if it was actually coming, (it was) but I managed to avoid coppping it on the cranium , instead got a shiner on the bottom lip.ing ***s in this world i tell you what.5 guys standing there saying " come on make something of it tough guy" (actually worse than that, but you get the drift).What is 1 guy who is lookin out for the gal he's with gonna do? I was mad as a cut snake I tell you, but not having any broken teeth, & just a cut up lip , I just said"take it easy- what do you think youre doing? you wanna prove how tough you are? theres 5 of you & 1 of me" then walked off.I know this may sound like a wussy thing to do, but all I cared bout was my date getting the hell outta there safely. What makes Aholes do something like this? do they see a guy out with a girl & think "oh lets F*** up his night"?!? WTF y'know? & more importantly , where is a nice slab of Alder when you need it(ie a tele). now to put on some Pantera.ah, sweet metal eases the pain..... __________________ Never, EVER, stop in the middle of a hoe-down" -Homer Simpson

October 5th, 2005, 10:30 AM	#2 (permalink)
popthree Friend of Leo's Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Tulsa Age: 43 Posts: 2,592 44 Photos	it took more of a man to do exactly what you did, than the alternative. congrats, and good show. __________________ http://www.myspace.com/mikekennedy823

October 5th, 2005, 10:37 AM	#3 (permalink)
Poppatwang Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: St. Paul, MN Posts: 1,854 13 Photos	If I were you... I'd have that lady doctor take a look at my lip. For professional opinion ya know. __________________ The Dieselfitters http://www.dieselfitters.com Roy Hubbs http://www.royhubbs.com

October 5th, 2005, 12:18 PM	#5 (permalink)
telesteve Tele-Meister Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Alabama Age: 47 Posts: 127	I take the stand that it's better to walk away and be thought a wuss than to shoot five jerks and end up as Big Toby's roommate for 20 years. __________________ "Inspiration is for amateurs. The rest of us just show up."--Chuck Close

October 5th, 2005, 12:33 PM	#6 (permalink)
ye olde fretmonkey Friend of Leo's Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Austin Posts: 3,332	That kind of thing can be very, very difficult to put out of one's head, though. You did the right thing by walking away. __________________ Just 'cause that's the way things are, that never did make it right.

October 5th, 2005, 10:54 AM	#4 (permalink)
genelovesjez Friend of Leo's Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Toronto, Canada Age: 41 Posts: 3,735	If it's any consolation, I'm sure the gal you were with was far more impressed with the way you handled it than if you had gotten into a fight. The way I look at it, we can't control what other people do, we can only control what we do, and you did the right thing. But you're right, it does suck. Compensating for a sense of inadequacy can really take its toll on the rest of us.

October 5th, 2005, 12:34 PM	#7 (permalink)
jhundt Friend of Leo's Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Netherlands Age: 54 Posts: 2,811 9 Photos	You done it just right, brother There was no other way to go. That wasn't a movie; we all love action movies where the hero blows guys like that away with a big old pistol - but in real life that doesn't work. Too messy, plus who wants to carry a big old gat around all the time? I'm glad you got out quick with minimal damage. I'm sure your friend is, too. Funny thing: why do guys do that stuff? Have you ever met a girl who was impressed by the incredible manliness of a drunken wanker who hangs out with 5 other drunks and tries to start fights? I haven't. You made a quick decision to walk on and avoid further trouble. If you tried something else you would have lost because they had numerical superiority. In addition - you just plain did the right thing. People don't have to fight for nothing. I am no church-type, but I know how JC would've handled it, and you did it too.

October 5th, 2005, 01:25 PM	#8 (permalink)
Tim Armstrong Moderator Poster Extraordinaire Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Berlin, Maryland, USA Age: 49 Posts: 8,404	Yep, you handled a very unpleasant situation just right. Sorry you had to handle it at all... Cheers, Tim __________________ http://www.moodswingers.org

October 5th, 2005, 02:28 PM	#10 (permalink)
txspreacher Friend of Leo's Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: TEXAS Age: 40 Posts: 2,070	I think guys that do that sort of thing have listened to too much Pantera.........ok! I'm just kidding........You did the right thing, as others have said. Including coming here to rant about it. It helps clear your head and you're around a pretty mild-mannered group here. Sorry you had to endure that, bro...but, glad you took the high road. That can take a pretty big set, IMO. You got the lady out of there safely, bottom line. __________________ It ain't the years, it's the miles.... - Greg

October 5th, 2005, 06:43 PM	#13 (permalink)
Smokin' Joe Picante Tele-Meister Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Winnipeg, Canada Posts: 499	Smart move.... Sorry you had to endure that kind of crap, but you rose above and kept your lady, dignity, and class in one piece. Good for you! Karma will take care of those jack*sses, believe me. __________________ http://www.joecurtisband.com/ Overheard at a gig... "The guitar could be louder... I have no idea how, but I'm sure it can be done..." ;)

October 5th, 2005, 09:10 PM	#16 (permalink)
Reno Sepulveda Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Nowhere man Posts: 1,348	The lip will heal, the ego takes longer but it heals up pretty good too. Take consolation in knowing the guy that did this will get it all back one day. You're in Austrailia so you probably know all about a guy named Nat Young Now there's a guy that had it coming. __________________ Happy trails

October 6th, 2005, 04:14 AM	#21 (permalink)
simonc Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Perth Western Australia Age: 29 Posts: 1,438 4 Photos	here's a pic of the lip. I know the rest of my mug is a mess too - but the lip is where the damage lies. http://www.geocities.com/symen79/DSC00717.JPG just thought id add, tho it doesnt look like much, there is a whole lotta bruizn goin on inside...tho it wsa hard to hold my mouth open & take photo. __________________ Never, EVER, stop in the middle of a hoe-down" -Homer Simpson

October 6th, 2005, 04:59 AM	#22 (permalink)
captain gorgeous Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Angel, North London Posts: 1,880 38 Photos	yowch! dude - that looks nasty! fwiw - it sounds like you handled it pretty much perfectly and with considerable dignity. it'd unbelievable that people who act that way are free to roam in society. if a dog behaved that way it'd be put-down. you know the song fight test by the flaming lips? it's appropriate for more than one reason right now. __________________ "What is it with chimpanzees and that middle parting? It's so 1920s." www.myspace.com/daddylonglegsuk http://www.myspace.com/thetacticians

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Fuzzyhead Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Bonn (Yer-up) Age: 25 Posts: 1,350