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caliban335 · March 6th, 2013, 02:40 PM

Maxwell Street · March 6th, 2013, 02:47 PM

someone needs to write "The Ballad of Kelton Swade"

Frodebro · March 6th, 2013, 02:48 PM

Moral of the story: If a large company like Fender catches you red-handed and only goes so far as to send a "cease and desist" letter, you would be stupid to ignore it.

central · March 6th, 2013, 02:52 PM

No idea who Kelton Swade is, but good.

Central

KevinB · March 6th, 2013, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by central

No idea who Kelton Swade is, but good.

Central

Well, let's just say that a few years back Mister Swade [error removed by Admin] was the topic of a few angry threads on TDPRI, where he allegedly promised guitars for people, took their money, and never came through with the instrument.

I don't think there'll be too many tears shed for him if FMIC win their case.

rangercaster · March 6th, 2013, 03:09 PM

Quote:

Moral of the story: If a large company like Fender catches you red-handed and only goes so far as to send a "cease and desist" letter, you would be stupid to ignore it.

i doubt he has the financial means to fight this ... legal battles are very expensive ...

Frodebro · March 6th, 2013, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by rangercaster

i doubt he has the financial means to fight this ... legal battles are very expensive ...

My point was that they sent him a letter in January asking him to stop, which he apparently paid no attention to. Now he's going to get clobbered.

tiskit86 · March 6th, 2013, 03:18 PM

Question - If your getting your necks from Allparts (Fender licensed) and using them to make T's and S's but with your own label on the headstock, what's the legality of that? I can see misrepresenting your guitar as a Fender being illegal, but headstock shape copies on a licensed product that is resold? Grey area or not?

Larry Mal · March 6th, 2013, 03:19 PM

"Kelton Swade responded with profanity..."

castpolymer · March 6th, 2013, 03:22 PM

I would not even consider commenting for or against Fender unless I had access Fender's complaint and the evidence they have provided. Too much gray area and assumptions for my taste.

Alamo · March 6th, 2013, 03:26 PM

After "It might get Loud" there seems to be a "It might get Ugly" rockumentary in the make.

StratBluesRock · March 6th, 2013, 03:31 PM

I'd probably rather have a Swade Strat/Tele than a current Fender

TDPRI · March 6th, 2013, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by tiskit86

Question - If your getting your necks from Allparts (Fender licensed) and using them to make T's and S's but with your own label on the headstock, what's the legality of that? I can see misrepresenting your guitar as a Fender being illegal, but headstock shape copies on a licensed product that is resold? Grey area or not?

Not a gray area in Fender's mind. Nor even in Allparts mind.

Fender licenses necks through a few manufactures to be used as "replacement necks". Using them to produce new guitars for sale with Fender's trademarked headstock shape or logo is a violation that Fender would not let stand. Licensed neck or not.

fezz parka · March 6th, 2013, 03:34 PM

Headstock shape. If you're selling guitars with a headstock design that Fender owns the copyright to, you will get dinged. Licensed necks are sold for "replacements" or one-offs, not for you to start a business with.

Dang. Paul beat me to it.

caliban335 · March 6th, 2013, 03:34 PM

I'd rather have a Danocaster, Kirn or Creston than a Swade.

TDPRI · March 6th, 2013, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by StratBluesRock

I'd probably rather have a Swade Strat/Tele than a current Fender

Would you? You can go to a store or online, pay some money and take your guitar home.

But what if you paid good money for a guitar that you never received?

Now, what would you prefer?

Toto'sDad · March 6th, 2013, 04:11 PM

Gee, maybe I oughta write to him, if he's gonna just throw 'em away anyway.

Toto'sDad · March 6th, 2013, 04:14 PM

"Kelton Swade responded with profanity..."

Well, my ex and Kelton have that in common anyway. I feel like I know him a little better now.

Tommyboy · March 6th, 2013, 04:15 PM

When he suspected the replica was being shipped to an employee of FMIC, they said he allegedly removed the Fender logo and replaced the logo with one of his logos.

Maybe he should have just replaced the whole neck with one of these.

BBill64 · March 6th, 2013, 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TDPRI

Would you? You can go to a store or online, pay some money and take your guitar home.

But what if you paid good money for a guitar that you never received?

Now, what would you prefer?

QFT

March 6th, 2013, 02:40 PM	#1 (permalink)
caliban335 Tele-Afflicted Join Date: May 2007 Location: Cleveland, Ohio Age: 59 Posts: 1,469	Kelton Swade Sued by Fender Tennessean Article on FMIC Suit __________________ Jemima surrender. That's all ya hafta do. I'll bring over my Fender & I'll play all night fer you.

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castpolymer Poster Extraordinaire Join Date: May 2008 Location: Between pablum and gruel Posts: 8,603	I would not even consider commenting for or against Fender unless I had access Fender's complaint and the evidence they have provided. Too much gray area and assumptions for my taste. __________________ " If you knew, you'd know." Mark Gastineau

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Alamo Poster Extraordinaire Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Berlin, Germany Age: 55 Posts: 5,183	After "It might get Loud" there seems to be a "It might get Ugly" rockumentary in the make. __________________ ....and That's When the Racoon Attacked My Leg http://www.myspace.com/timebanditsberlin

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caliban335 Tele-Afflicted Join Date: May 2007 Location: Cleveland, Ohio Age: 59 Posts: 1,469	I'd rather have a Danocaster, Kirn or Creston than a Swade. __________________ Jemima surrender. That's all ya hafta do. I'll bring over my Fender & I'll play all night fer you.

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Toto'sDad Poster Extraordinaire Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Bakersfield Posts: 7,126 2 Photos	Gee, maybe I oughta write to him, if he's gonna just throw 'em away anyway. __________________ I like me some Twangy Tele and some nonsense about honkytonk badonkadonk!

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March 6th, 2013, 02:47 PM	#2 (permalink)
Maxwell Street Friend of Leo's Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: chicago usa Posts: 2,802	someone needs to write "The Ballad of Kelton Swade"

March 6th, 2013, 02:48 PM	#3 (permalink)
Frodebro Friend of Leo's Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Seattle Age: 43 Posts: 3,717	Moral of the story: If a large company like Fender catches you red-handed and only goes so far as to send a "cease and desist" letter, you would be stupid to ignore it.

March 6th, 2013, 02:52 PM	#4 (permalink)
central TDPRI Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 37	No idea who Kelton Swade is, but good. Central

March 6th, 2013, 03:18 PM	#8 (permalink)
tiskit86 Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Oakland Posts: 1,040 3 Photos	Question - If your getting your necks from Allparts (Fender licensed) and using them to make T's and S's but with your own label on the headstock, what's the legality of that? I can see misrepresenting your guitar as a Fender being illegal, but headstock shape copies on a licensed product that is resold? Grey area or not?

March 6th, 2013, 03:19 PM	#9 (permalink)
Larry Mal Tele-Meister Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Saint Louis, Missouri Posts: 259	"Kelton Swade responded with profanity..."

March 6th, 2013, 03:31 PM	#12 (permalink)
StratBluesRock Banned Friend of Leo's Join Date: May 2012 Location: Connecticut, USA Age: 16 Posts: 2,644	I'd probably rather have a Swade Strat/Tele than a current Fender

March 6th, 2013, 03:34 PM	#14 (permalink)
fezz parka Doctor of Teleocity Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: In a movie... Posts: 12,466	Headstock shape. If you're selling guitars with a headstock design that Fender owns the copyright to, you will get dinged. Licensed necks are sold for "replacements" or one-offs, not for you to start a business with. Dang. Paul beat me to it.

March 6th, 2013, 04:14 PM	#18 (permalink)
Toto'sDad Poster Extraordinaire Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Bakersfield Posts: 7,126 2 Photos	"Kelton Swade responded with profanity..." Well, my ex and Kelton have that in common anyway. I feel like I know him a little better now. __________________ I like me some Twangy Tele and some nonsense about honkytonk badonkadonk!

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