Baseball fans help; why are Yanks AL East champs??

Colo Springs E · October 1st, 2005, 05:06 PM

They are a full game ahead of Boston. If Boston beats them tomorrow, wouldn't they be tied, and wouldnt' that mean a one-game playoff between them?

I'm confused.

fungusyoung · October 1st, 2005, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Colo Springs E

They are a full game ahead of Boston. If Boston beats them tomorrow, wouldn't they be tied, and wouldnt' that mean a one-game playoff between them?

I'm confused.

The Yankees have a better head to head record vs. Boston this year, which gives them first place should the 2 teams have a tie record overall.

dangerine49 · October 1st, 2005, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Colo Springs E

They are a full game ahead of Boston. If Boston beats them tomorrow, wouldn't they be tied, and wouldnt' that mean a one-game playoff between them?

I'm confused.

The Yankees have a better head to head record vs. Boston this year, which gives them first place should the 2 teams have a tie record overall.

Plus since Cleveland lost today, it eliminates the possibility of a three way tie.

GO YANKS!! 8)

edhead · October 1st, 2005, 09:22 PM

Even though the above reasons are correct, they don't tell the whole story.

If 2 teams are tied for a division lead at the end of the season, and both would make the playoffs (the key point). The team with the better head to head record is the division champs and the other is the wild card for the playoffs.

Since if Boston wins, NY and Boston would have the same record, and even if Cleveland wins, NY and Boston's record would be better than Cleveland's. Therefore in this senario, NY is division champs and Boston the Wild Card.

If NY wins, they are champs as they would have the better record. And if Cleveland would win Boston and Cleveland are tied and play a one game playoff in Boston (I believe).

TonyBlack · October 1st, 2005, 09:57 PM

Because the baseball gods decided to pay attention this year. After taking last year off.
Yankees win, Daaaaaah Yankees Winnnnnnnnnn!

Colo Springs E · October 1st, 2005, 10:50 PM

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Because the baseball gods decided to pay attention this year. After taking last year off.
Yankees win, Daaaaaah Yankees Winnnnnnnnnn!

....I detest more than the New York Yankees.

I hope they go up 3-0 in the World Series and CHOKE that away too! LOL

Colo Springs E · October 1st, 2005, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by edhead

If 2 teams are tied for a division lead at the end of the season, and both would make the playoffs (the key point). The team with the better head to head record is the division champs and the other is the wild card for the playoffs.

.....but long ago, I gave up trying to make sense out of a sport where you don't even have home field advantage in the playoffs.

What doesn't make sense in that scenario, is Boston isn't in. If they were the outright winner of the wild card, I could understand it, but that logic doesn't make sense if they may still have to play a one-game playoff, and of course could lose.

Figures the Yankees would get in on some BS stupid rule that rarely comes into play....

Tony Dogs · October 2nd, 2005, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Colo Springs E

Figures the Yankees would get in on some BS stupid rule that rarely comes into play....

Perhaps if the Boston Dead Sox hadn't lost to the Yankees so many times the BS rule wouldn't apply. Blame it on Beantown.

Colo Springs E · October 2nd, 2005, 11:46 AM

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Figures the Yankees would get in on some BS stupid rule that rarely comes into play....

Perhaps if the Boston Dead Sox hadn't lost to the Yankees so many times the BS rule wouldn't apply. Blame it on Beantown.

....I can only hope that the Stankies get smoked like a cheap cigar in the playoffs.

That'd be SWEET.

edhead · October 2nd, 2005, 12:06 PM

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If 2 teams are tied for a division lead at the end of the season, and both would make the playoffs (the key point). The team with the better head to head record is the division champs and the other is the wild card for the playoffs.

What doesn't make sense in that scenario, is Boston isn't in. If they were the outright winner of the wild card, I could understand it, but that logic doesn't make sense if they may still have to play a one-game playoff, and of course could lose.

The only way Boston could be in the one-game playoff, is if they lose and Cleveland wins. If that happens the Yankees would win the division due to a better record.

Confusing, and I've only heard of this rule this year, so I am not sure when it was implimented.

I've always hated the Yankees, but Red Sox fans annoy me so much, that last year I rooted for the Yankees over the Red Sox. And of course today I am rooting for the Yankees to win and Cleveland to win, so the Indians have a chance at the post season.

sudancat · October 2nd, 2005, 02:33 PM

Cause there the BEST !!!!!!!!!

shakedancer · October 2nd, 2005, 03:15 PM

WoW!! What a choke by the Indians. Still not as bad as the Yankees " greatest choke in sports history " of last year.

Seriously though you have to give the Yanks and Red Sox alot of credit considering all the problems both teams had to overcome and still managed to win 95 games. If it wasn't for the Yanks and Sox the baseball season could be boring. If fate is lined up again the Yanks and Sox will meet again and the Sox will win.

Kingpin · October 2nd, 2005, 06:44 PM

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Cause there the BEST !!!!!!!!!

Are we just going to skip the the World Series and hand the trophy to the Yankees? I don't think so. They'll only be #1 if they earn it, there's a lot of Baseball yet to be played.

BTW, they're not the best team in Baseball, the Cardinals are. And believe me, that is not an easy thing for a Cub fan to say!

Colo Springs E · October 2nd, 2005, 07:33 PM

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BTW, they're not the best team in Baseball, the Cardinals are. And believe me, that is not an easy thing for a Cub fan to say!

......Larussa (sp?) has proven time and time again, he can't win the big one. I look for this year to be no different, and that's not an easy thing for ME to say, cuz I dig the Cardinals...

captain gorgeous · October 2nd, 2005, 07:52 PM

yep

i have no idea what you guys are on about

baseball is as unfathomable to most brits as i'm sure cricket is to you guys.

stevieboy · October 2nd, 2005, 11:21 PM

Edheads "key point" about both teams being in the playoffs is correct. Just to go on a little further about it, MLB doesn't want to have a Monday playoff unless absolutely necessary. So if both teams are going to make the playoffs, they eliminated having a playoff just to determine who would be champ and who would be wildcard, figuring that though there is an advantage to being division champ, both teams would better off going into the playoffs without having to play, and especially use pitchers in an extra game.

Skully · October 2nd, 2005, 11:49 PM

The Yankees are up against the Angels in the opening round of the playoffs, and the latter have home field advantage. We all know what happened when those two met up in the 2002 postseason.

Colo Springs E · October 3rd, 2005, 07:19 AM

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Just to go on a little further about it, MLB doesn't want to have a Monday playoff unless absolutely necessary. So if both teams are going to make the playoffs, they eliminated having a playoff just to determine who would be champ and who would be wildcard...

....when they declared the Yankees champs, Boston had not "locked up" the wildcard. They had only locked up the opportunity to play a--you guessed it--one game playoff against the Indians.

That's why the basis for the reasoning doesn't make sense to me. If it was a done deal that Boston was 'in' as the wildcard, I get it; that was not the case.

-Eric

raisindot · October 3rd, 2005, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Tony Dogs

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Originally Posted by Colo Springs E

Figures the Yankees would get in on some BS stupid rule that rarely comes into play....

Perhaps if the Boston Dead Sox hadn't lost to the Yankees so many times the BS rule wouldn't apply. Blame it on Beantown.

Hmmm...let's see. NY won the pennant last year and went up 3-0 in the ALCS...and exactly what happened after that? I just can't seem to remember. Yanks won the World Series, right?

And this weekend, let's see...Boston won the first game, Yanks won the second and WHO won the rubber game 10-1 won the wild card again--with basically mediocre starting pitching and the league's worst bullpen? :)

See you in NY...again! :)

Jeff in Boston

raisindot · October 3rd, 2005, 07:59 AM

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yep
baseball is as unfathomable to most brits as i'm sure cricket is to you guys.

What's the difference between cricket and life?

Life ends, eventually. :)

Jeff in Boston

tiktok · October 3rd, 2005, 10:26 AM

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....I can only hope that the Stankies get smoked like a cheap cigar in the playoffs.

It's always nice to see someone engaged in a character building exercise.

dangerine49 · October 3rd, 2005, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Tony Dogs

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Originally Posted by Colo Springs E

Figures the Yankees would get in on some BS stupid rule that rarely comes into play....

Perhaps if the Boston Dead Sox hadn't lost to the Yankees so many times the BS rule wouldn't apply. Blame it on Beantown.

....I can only hope that the Stankies get smoked like a cheap cigar in the playoffs.

That'd be SWEET.

Oh sure, it would be REAL exciting to see the White Sox play the Astros in the WS. Yawn...........

Colo Springs E · October 3rd, 2005, 11:16 AM

October 1st, 2005, 05:06 PM	#1 (permalink)
Colo Springs E Friend of Leo's Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Colorado Springs Posts: 4,992 5 Photos	Baseball fans help; why are Yanks AL East champs?? They are a full game ahead of Boston. If Boston beats them tomorrow, wouldn't they be tied, and wouldnt' that mean a one-game playoff between them? I'm confused. __________________ Slipped on a kiss, And tumbled into love...

October 1st, 2005, 09:22 PM	#4 (permalink)
edhead Tele-Meister Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: NE Ohio Posts: 221	Even though the above reasons are correct, they don't tell the whole story. If 2 teams are tied for a division lead at the end of the season, and both would make the playoffs (the key point). The team with the better head to head record is the division champs and the other is the wild card for the playoffs. Since if Boston wins, NY and Boston would have the same record, and even if Cleveland wins, NY and Boston's record would be better than Cleveland's. Therefore in this senario, NY is division champs and Boston the Wild Card. If NY wins, they are champs as they would have the better record. And if Cleveland would win Boston and Cleveland are tied and play a one game playoff in Boston (I believe). __________________ "Work is the crabgrass in the lawn of life" Unemployed Floyd

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TonyBlack Tele-Meister Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: new york city Posts: 437	The Yanks are the AL East Champs.... Because the baseball gods decided to pay attention this year. After taking last year off. Yankees win, Daaaaaah Yankees Winnnnnnnnnn! __________________ salute, Tony Black maia davies denis woods

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sudancat Tele-Holic Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: North Carolina Posts: 700 12 Photos	Why are the Yankees #1 ? Cause there the BEST !!!!!!!!!

October 2nd, 2005, 03:15 PM	#12 (permalink)
shakedancer Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: north of Boston Posts: 1,634	WoW!! What a choke by the Indians. Still not as bad as the Yankees " greatest choke in sports history " of last year. Seriously though you have to give the Yanks and Red Sox alot of credit considering all the problems both teams had to overcome and still managed to win 95 games. If it wasn't for the Yanks and Sox the baseball season could be boring. If fate is lined up again the Yanks and Sox will meet again and the Sox will win. __________________ "If you don't like the Blues, you got to have a Hole in your Soul." Luther Allison JOE

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captain gorgeous Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Angel, North London Posts: 1,871 38 Photos	yep i have no idea what you guys are on about baseball is as unfathomable to most brits as i'm sure cricket is to you guys. __________________ "What is it with chimpanzees and that middle parting? It's so 1920s." www.myspace.com/daddylonglegsuk http://www.myspace.com/thetacticians

October 2nd, 2005, 11:21 PM	#16 (permalink)
stevieboy Friend of Leo's Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: the valley Posts: 2,179 6 Photos	Edheads "key point" about both teams being in the playoffs is correct. Just to go on a little further about it, MLB doesn't want to have a Monday playoff unless absolutely necessary. So if both teams are going to make the playoffs, they eliminated having a playoff just to determine who would be champ and who would be wildcard, figuring that though there is an advantage to being division champ, both teams would better off going into the playoffs without having to play, and especially use pitchers in an extra game. __________________ "One of the best bands ever. These guys were such perfectionist"--Youtube user comment

October 2nd, 2005, 11:49 PM	#17 (permalink)
Skully Friend of Leo's Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Glamorous NoHo Posts: 3,762	The Yankees are up against the Angels in the opening round of the playoffs, and the latter have home field advantage. We all know what happened when those two met up in the 2002 postseason.

October 3rd, 2005, 11:16 AM	#23 (permalink)
Colo Springs E Friend of Leo's Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Colorado Springs Posts: 4,992 5 Photos	Re: Can't argue you there....