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genelovesjez · September 16th, 2005, 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by PraiseCaster

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Originally Posted by teledude66

i........ i only drink 2 cups in the morning

I think that 2 cups fall in the catagory of moderate. I dont see a problem with it at all. But, good diet and excercise cannot be replaced by a cup of coffee, prune juice, or magic diet pill. We all have to bite the bullet, and excercise, and eat right. Short of gastric bypass surgery, there are no short cuts.

I agree. There's probably nothing wrong with the occasional cup of coffee, but I don't think deliberately starting to drink it as an appetite suppressant is necessarily a good idea.

Funnily enough, most of the food that is good for you (fruits and vegetables, whole grains, etc.) works well to curb your appetite - you tend to feel full sooner, and stay feeling full longer than you do when you've eaten starchy, salty or sugary foods.

Eric Karonen · September 16th, 2005, 07:17 AM

Woah! A little dental surgery has sure curbed my appetite ... for the time being anyway.

I measured my waist the other day and discovered I'm wearing pants at least one size too small which leads me to this: anyone hear of TPS (Tight Pant Syndrome)? Apparently, many stomach problems are caused simply by people wearing clothing that is too tight across their gut. A lot of people just deny the fact that they should be moving up in pant size and continue to squeeze into their old self pants. This puts pressure on your internal organs and causes all kinds of symptoms.

genelovesjez · September 16th, 2005, 09:09 AM

From an article in Today's Globe and Mail:

Severe obesity is associated with a 12-fold increase in mortality in 25- to 35-year-olds, compared with lean individuals.

According to the Canadian Institute for Health Information, the obese are also three times more likely to need a joint replacement than those of normal weight, and take significantly longer to recover.

The weight of extremely heavy individuals poses a risk to those who must lift or transfer them, as well as those who need to be moved.

In a fire, anyone unable to fit into a normal escape route (a stairway or window) may have few alternatives. If the fire is in a multistory building, those too big to move quickly will find it hard to get out, with elevators out of service and crowds rushing to escape. And rescuers may be unable to move the very obese away from danger.

Auto injury is another area of concern. A 2002 study of more than 26,000 people who had been involved in car crashes found that obese people are more than twice as likely to die in a crash as people weighing less than 60 kilos (132 pounds).
Reasons for the higher risk of injury or death include the sheer force of the victim's weight, underlying health problems that hinder recovery, and the difficulty of extricating an obese person from a crumpled car.
Car dealers provide free seat-belt extenders that fit the restraint to a larger body, because standard seat belts are not designed for obese people. In a crash, a seat belt must grip bone: hip, sternum, shoulder, ribs. Rather than serve as a safety cushion, fat creates a gap between the belt and bones that may allow the person to slide from behind the seat belt during rollovers. In a crash, the belt snaps back through that gap and slams into the skeleton or organs as they hurtle forward. If the seat belt does not quickly encounter the pelvis, it can damage internal organs.

J-man · September 16th, 2005, 09:43 AM

Well I was right about the fact that being in college would cut down my eating amount a lot (I've been on two meals a day during the week), the only problem all the money saved has gone to visiting the pub with people from my course.

PraiseCaster · September 16th, 2005, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by J-man

the only problem all the money saved has gone to visiting the pub with people from my course.

Some of those "drinks" at the pub, can be more detrimental than a whole meal, and some of those pub drinks dont exactly make one want to go excercise......

I'm not telling you to stop going to the pub, just be careful on the intake.

PraiseCaster · September 16th, 2005, 11:41 AM

Start a food intake diary:

1) List the size of the portions, and the number of servings.

2) Include all your drinks too.

3) List the time of the day that you consume it too.

Do it for a few weeks, to give a really good picture of your consumption.

This can help "enlighten" your perception as to how much you truly consume. You may find yourself going from statements like, "I dont eat that much, really." to, "Whoa, I gotta reign this in!"

J-man · September 16th, 2005, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by PraiseCaster

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Originally Posted by J-man

the only problem all the money saved has gone to visiting the pub with people from my course.

Some of those "drinks" at the pub, can be more detrimental than a whole meal, and some of those pub drinks dont exactly make one want to go excercise......

I'm not telling you to stop going to the pub, just be careful on the intake.

Beer beer and more beer.

lewis · September 16th, 2005, 12:52 PM

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In February I was 245 and decided it was time for a change. Since then I've quit bread and soda (yes, even diet). Now a few months later my 38" waist pants are quite baggy. I haven't weighed myself but I do have a physical next week and will report back then.

Just got back from the doctor.
Down 30 pounds.
If I can keep this up through the winter I will consider it a success.
Diets (temporary) don't work, changing your behaviour (permanent) does.

J-man · September 16th, 2005, 12:57 PM

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Just got back from the doctor.
Down 30 pounds since February.
No bread (including hot dogs, hamburgers, donuts etc.) and no soda.
On the bike 1.25 hrs, 3x per week.
If I can keep this up through the winter I will consider it a success.
Diets (temporary) don't work, changing your behaviour (permanent) does.

No bread???

Gah I could NEVER do that, I love sandwiches too much, how did you cope?

lewis · September 16th, 2005, 01:14 PM

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No bread???

I don't know how I cope but let me tell you a story.
One day last February I had three slices of toast (with eggs) for breakfast and two more slices of bread on the sandwich at lunch.
FIVE SLICES by noon. It's not that bread is entirely bad for you but I was just eating way too much. Not eating bread has helped me eat less food overlall.
That day was a real eye-opener for me.

sudancat · September 16th, 2005, 11:20 PM

I HAVE TRIED A FEW DIETS NONE HAVE WORKED BECAUSE I WOULD NOT LET THEM. MY DOCTOR TOLD ME ONE TIME, WHATEVER DIET YOU GO ON YOU HAVE TO LIVE WITH IT THE REST OF YOUR LIFE TO MANTAIN THAT WEIGHT. THE ONLY THING I DO IS PUSH AWAY FROM THE TABLE. INSTEAD OF 2 SANDWHICHES OR BURGERS ITS 1 NOW.I HAVE LOST SOME WEIGHT,HAVE NOT STARVED OR CRAVED FOOD AND ACTUALLY BEGINNING TO FEEL A LITTLE BETTER, AND I STILL EAT WHAT I LIKE. BREAD AND TATERS ARE MY DOWNFALL.

Heather Anne Peel · September 17th, 2005, 11:10 PM

In 1998 at 34 I had gotten up to 227! At 5'7", that's not good. I remember staring at the scale in disbelief. I decided right then, on 3/18/98, to do something about it. 8 months later I was down to 147, where I am today. I did this through starvation, Diet Coke, only two meals a day (breakfast - a bagel), dinner (grilled chicken, vegetables) and occasional Snackwell's cookies. I went from a size 20 dress to a size 10. I'll never go back to being overweight again! I look and feel very good, having lost the weight.
8) Heather

Coyote · September 18th, 2005, 07:52 PM

As for me, I have to go the other way. At 6' and around 145-150 lbs., that's too scrawny. I should be weighing around 160-165 as well.

Coyote · September 18th, 2005, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Eric Karonen

Woah! A little dental surgery has sure curbed my appetite ... for the time being anyway.

I measured my waist the other day and discovered I'm wearing pants at least one size too small which leads me to this: anyone hear of TPS (Tight Pant Syndrome)? Apparently, many stomach problems are caused simply by people wearing clothing that is too tight across their gut. A lot of people just deny the fact that they should be moving up in pant size and continue to squeeze into their old self pants. This puts pressure on your internal organs and causes all kinds of symptoms.

....So THAT'S why I get gas whenever I wear my slim fit jeans

dogggone · September 19th, 2005, 07:17 AM

I stepped on the scale and lost 2 lbs....just a drop in the bucket, but a storm has to start somewhere.
I have decided to use the Glycemic index as a guide and walk on the treadmill for 15 min/day for the 1st 2 weeks.
Wow! I am moving from being a lurker to a poster.
Cheers

bigdog · September 19th, 2005, 09:10 AM

As I posted earlier I have been on the move with this for a couple of months and now am .4 (thats right, four tenths !) of a pound away from losing 10 % of my starting bodyweight. First goal in sight , and I am losing inched as well and will be in my old skinny clothes soon !

PraiseCaster · September 19th, 2005, 07:28 PM

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I stepped on the scale and lost 2 lbs....just a drop in the bucket, but a storm has to start somewhere.

Hey, thats great! Picture it like this, 2 pounds in one week, 8 pounds in a month, 80 pounds in ten months. Not bad, eh?!

Besides, most of the experts will tell you that it took you a while to put it on, its gonna take a while to get it off, and 1 to two pounds a week is a great pace!

Also, trends show that of those that take the weight off real quick, 98% of those pack it all back on, .......and then some!

4mal · September 20th, 2005, 08:43 AM

In June I was running 215 plus. I travel for my work and live in hotels at least 50 percent of the time. Eating in restauants is pretty much a given.

So I cut out Rice, Pasta, Bread and Potatoe. I started reading lables for Carbohydrate content and began a modified Atkins.

My typical diet at home is a fruit smoothie in the morning, either and Atkins Advantage Bar or a Balance Bar 'Gold' for lunch. Nut's or cottage cheese as a snack in the afternoon if I need one, if not then I skip. Dinner is something low or no carb.

On the road, it's an Atkins 'Morning Start' bar in the am, the Advantage bar for lunch or if I'm lunching with clients it's 'burned chiken on greens' aka Chicken Ceasar Salad... and then fish for dinner. If there is a Thai restaurant nearby or Japanese there are a bunch of light salads (and or sashimi) that work well for me. In general, dinner looks a lot like some form of protien on salad.

I've dropped to between 190 and 193 as of Monday. More importantly to me, I've dropped from a very fat 38 probably more like 40, down to where 36 jeans are a bit tight... What I have observed is that as I'm eating less, my appetite has also dropped. Along with eating the right stuff for weight loss, eating less of it has been key for me. I'm doing this without getting much exercise in. I joined up with a band back in July, learned 3 and now 4 sets of material and started gigging in August. Pretty much every waking minute for me has been wood shedding all these tunes.

I'm at the point now where I can actually get back to riding which is my preferred from of exercise when I'm home.

Eating in restaurants used to be a real problem, most restaurants will prepare an Atkins friendly meal if you request it. Often it's just ordering a meat or fish and potatoes dish and skipping the potatoe and getting an extra vegetable... if not, the restaurant you're in is not compatible with your diet ...

Geyser · September 20th, 2005, 11:55 AM

This is pretty inspiring to see all these real-world testimonials and advise. I haven't exactly been sticking to my guns, but I have made a few conscious substitutions. I drink a lot of pop and I've tried my best to only drink diet sodas. I had a "real" Coke the other day and the sugar rush about killed me (I guess I'm getting used to the diet versions). I'm also bringing my lunch to work, rather than hitting Taco Bell or the chinese buffet. For the past three or four work days, I've brought a simple spinach salad (no dressing) and a peanut butter sandwich or two. I'm feeling great, but of course, the batteries in the bathroom scale are dead, so I don't actually know if I've lost any weight. I'll stick with it though and let you know if there's any positive results (I was 230 about 3 weeks ago).

Colo Springs E · September 20th, 2005, 07:47 PM

Using the same scale I used 2 weeks ago, which I think weighs a little light, but still it shows I went from 166 to 164.

Cool!

genelovesjez · September 21st, 2005, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by 4mal

Eating in restaurants used to be a real problem, most restaurants will prepare an Atkins friendly meal if you request it. Often it's just ordering a meat or fish and potatoes dish and skipping the potatoe and getting an extra vegetable... if not, the restaurant you're in is not compatible with your diet ...

Don't skip the potato, just don't put anything on it. A baked potato is quite good for you without the butter or sour cream.

BTW, watch your hair: a strict diet such as Atkins can cause hair loss due to vitamin and nutritional deficiencies. Don't forget to take a multi-vitamin with iron!

lewis · September 21st, 2005, 10:04 AM

We don't have a scale at home but when I stopped eating bread in February within ONE WEEK my thighs weren't rubbing together as much as they used to (hey...stop laughing).
Then I knew I was on the right track.
I'm not advocating that bread is bad or that everyone should do what I did by not eating it, I'm just telling you what has worked for me.
I'm down 30lbs. since.

September 16th, 2005, 07:17 AM	#82 (permalink)
Eric Karonen Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Toronto, Canada Age: 55 Posts: 1,130	Woah! A little dental surgery has sure curbed my appetite ... for the time being anyway. I measured my waist the other day and discovered I'm wearing pants at least one size too small which leads me to this: anyone hear of TPS (Tight Pant Syndrome)? Apparently, many stomach problems are caused simply by people wearing clothing that is too tight across their gut. A lot of people just deny the fact that they should be moving up in pant size and continue to squeeze into their old self pants. This puts pressure on your internal organs and causes all kinds of symptoms. __________________ Sounds the tough horn, and twangs the quivering string. --Pope (1688-1744)

September 16th, 2005, 09:09 AM	#83 (permalink)
genelovesjez Friend of Leo's Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Toronto, Canada Age: 41 Posts: 3,735	Some more "food" for thought: From an article in Today's Globe and Mail: Severe obesity is associated with a 12-fold increase in mortality in 25- to 35-year-olds, compared with lean individuals. According to the Canadian Institute for Health Information, the obese are also three times more likely to need a joint replacement than those of normal weight, and take significantly longer to recover. The weight of extremely heavy individuals poses a risk to those who must lift or transfer them, as well as those who need to be moved. In a fire, anyone unable to fit into a normal escape route (a stairway or window) may have few alternatives. If the fire is in a multistory building, those too big to move quickly will find it hard to get out, with elevators out of service and crowds rushing to escape. And rescuers may be unable to move the very obese away from danger. Auto injury is another area of concern. A 2002 study of more than 26,000 people who had been involved in car crashes found that obese people are more than twice as likely to die in a crash as people weighing less than 60 kilos (132 pounds). Reasons for the higher risk of injury or death include the sheer force of the victim's weight, underlying health problems that hinder recovery, and the difficulty of extricating an obese person from a crumpled car. Car dealers provide free seat-belt extenders that fit the restraint to a larger body, because standard seat belts are not designed for obese people. In a crash, a seat belt must grip bone: hip, sternum, shoulder, ribs. Rather than serve as a safety cushion, fat creates a gap between the belt and bones that may allow the person to slide from behind the seat belt during rollovers. In a crash, the belt snaps back through that gap and slams into the skeleton or organs as they hurtle forward. If the seat belt does not quickly encounter the pelvis, it can damage internal organs.

September 16th, 2005, 09:43 AM	#84 (permalink)
J-man Moderator Poster Extraordinaire Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: North Wales/Scarborough Age: 19 Posts: 5,658 9 Photos	Well I was right about the fact that being in college would cut down my eating amount a lot (I've been on two meals a day during the week), the only problem all the money saved has gone to visiting the pub with people from my course. __________________ Baja Tele, 60's Classic Tele, Gibson LP Studio, Squier Tele Custom II, Squier Strat, Gould LP, Starfire J-Bass, Yamaha FG700MS Write a wise saying and your name will live forever. - Unknown

September 16th, 2005, 11:41 AM	#86 (permalink)
PraiseCaster Friend of Leo's Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Whittier, California Posts: 3,885 16 Photos	A food intake diary Start a food intake diary: 1) List the size of the portions, and the number of servings. 2) Include all your drinks too. 3) List the time of the day that you consume it too. Do it for a few weeks, to give a really good picture of your consumption. This can help "enlighten" your perception as to how much you truly consume. You may find yourself going from statements like, "I dont eat that much, really." to, "Whoa, I gotta reign this in!" __________________ Later! PraiseCaster Visit Guitarists Praise and Worship Forum!! Dance Like David, MySpace

September 16th, 2005, 11:20 PM	#91 (permalink)
sudancat Tele-Holic Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: North Carolina Posts: 700 12 Photos	6'5" 305LBS I HAVE TRIED A FEW DIETS NONE HAVE WORKED BECAUSE I WOULD NOT LET THEM. MY DOCTOR TOLD ME ONE TIME, WHATEVER DIET YOU GO ON YOU HAVE TO LIVE WITH IT THE REST OF YOUR LIFE TO MANTAIN THAT WEIGHT. THE ONLY THING I DO IS PUSH AWAY FROM THE TABLE. INSTEAD OF 2 SANDWHICHES OR BURGERS ITS 1 NOW.I HAVE LOST SOME WEIGHT,HAVE NOT STARVED OR CRAVED FOOD AND ACTUALLY BEGINNING TO FEEL A LITTLE BETTER, AND I STILL EAT WHAT I LIKE. BREAD AND TATERS ARE MY DOWNFALL.

September 17th, 2005, 11:10 PM	#92 (permalink)
Heather Anne Peel Friend of Leo's Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Nowhere Age: 44 Posts: 3,000 3 Photos	In 1998 at 34 I had gotten up to 227! At 5'7", that's not good. I remember staring at the scale in disbelief. I decided right then, on 3/18/98, to do something about it. 8 months later I was down to 147, where I am today. I did this through starvation, Diet Coke, only two meals a day (breakfast - a bagel), dinner (grilled chicken, vegetables) and occasional Snackwell's cookies. I went from a size 20 dress to a size 10. I'll never go back to being overweight again! I look and feel very good, having lost the weight. 8) Heather

September 18th, 2005, 07:52 PM	#93 (permalink)
Coyote Tele-Meister Join Date: May 2005 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 302	As for me, I have to go the other way. At 6' and around 145-150 lbs., that's too scrawny. I should be weighing around 160-165 as well. __________________ Please view my DeviantART page: http://cayennecoyote.deviantart.com/

September 19th, 2005, 07:17 AM	#95 (permalink)
dogggone Tele-Meister Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: bflo ny Age: 50 Posts: 250	At the end of 1 week I stepped on the scale and lost 2 lbs....just a drop in the bucket, but a storm has to start somewhere. I have decided to use the Glycemic index as a guide and walk on the treadmill for 15 min/day for the 1st 2 weeks. Wow! I am moving from being a lurker to a poster. Cheers

September 19th, 2005, 09:10 AM	#96 (permalink)
bigdog Tele-Meister Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 120	Update, The Big Dog is now a liitle not so big As I posted earlier I have been on the move with this for a couple of months and now am .4 (thats right, four tenths !) of a pound away from losing 10 % of my starting bodyweight. First goal in sight , and I am losing inched as well and will be in my old skinny clothes soon !

September 20th, 2005, 08:43 AM	#98 (permalink)
4mal Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: The Gorge Posts: 1,867	Glad to see that I'm not going solo ... In June I was running 215 plus. I travel for my work and live in hotels at least 50 percent of the time. Eating in restauants is pretty much a given. So I cut out Rice, Pasta, Bread and Potatoe. I started reading lables for Carbohydrate content and began a modified Atkins. My typical diet at home is a fruit smoothie in the morning, either and Atkins Advantage Bar or a Balance Bar 'Gold' for lunch. Nut's or cottage cheese as a snack in the afternoon if I need one, if not then I skip. Dinner is something low or no carb. On the road, it's an Atkins 'Morning Start' bar in the am, the Advantage bar for lunch or if I'm lunching with clients it's 'burned chiken on greens' aka Chicken Ceasar Salad... and then fish for dinner. If there is a Thai restaurant nearby or Japanese there are a bunch of light salads (and or sashimi) that work well for me. In general, dinner looks a lot like some form of protien on salad. I've dropped to between 190 and 193 as of Monday. More importantly to me, I've dropped from a very fat 38 probably more like 40, down to where 36 jeans are a bit tight... What I have observed is that as I'm eating less, my appetite has also dropped. Along with eating the right stuff for weight loss, eating less of it has been key for me. I'm doing this without getting much exercise in. I joined up with a band back in July, learned 3 and now 4 sets of material and started gigging in August. Pretty much every waking minute for me has been wood shedding all these tunes. I'm at the point now where I can actually get back to riding which is my preferred from of exercise when I'm home. Eating in restaurants used to be a real problem, most restaurants will prepare an Atkins friendly meal if you request it. Often it's just ordering a meat or fish and potatoes dish and skipping the potatoe and getting an extra vegetable... if not, the restaurant you're in is not compatible with your diet ...

September 20th, 2005, 11:55 AM	#99 (permalink)
Geyser Tele-Meister Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 291	This is pretty inspiring to see all these real-world testimonials and advise. I haven't exactly been sticking to my guns, but I have made a few conscious substitutions. I drink a lot of pop and I've tried my best to only drink diet sodas. I had a "real" Coke the other day and the sugar rush about killed me (I guess I'm getting used to the diet versions). I'm also bringing my lunch to work, rather than hitting Taco Bell or the chinese buffet. For the past three or four work days, I've brought a simple spinach salad (no dressing) and a peanut butter sandwich or two. I'm feeling great, but of course, the batteries in the bathroom scale are dead, so I don't actually know if I've lost any weight. I'll stick with it though and let you know if there's any positive results (I was 230 about 3 weeks ago).

September 20th, 2005, 07:47 PM	#100 (permalink)
Colo Springs E Friend of Leo's Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Colorado Springs Posts: 4,737 5 Photos	I lost 2 pounds! Using the same scale I used 2 weeks ago, which I think weighs a little light, but still it shows I went from 166 to 164. Cool! __________________ Daddy's got a new forty-five...

September 21st, 2005, 10:04 AM	#102 (permalink)
lewis Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,663 20 Photos	We don't have a scale at home but when I stopped eating bread in February within ONE WEEK my thighs weren't rubbing together as much as they used to (hey...stop laughing). Then I knew I was on the right track. I'm not advocating that bread is bad or that everyone should do what I did by not eating it, I'm just telling you what has worked for me. I'm down 30lbs. since.