2,002 Volvo S60 ?? - Telecaster Guitar Forum
The Number 1 Fender Telecaster Guitar authority in the world.
   

Go Back   Telecaster Guitar Forum > General Discussion Forum > Bad Dog Cafe
Forgot Username/Password? Join Us!
Notices

Bad Dog Cafe Hershey's Bad Dog Cafe is our Off Topic forum -- but NO POLITICS and NO FIGHTING. NOTE: Discussion of guitars other than Tele & Strat belongs in the "Other Guitars" forum and discussion of Music belongs in the "Music to Your Ears" forum.


Wilde Pickups by Bill & Becky Lawrence WD Music Products Amplified Parts Mod Kits DIY Amps, Mods, Pedals dallenpickups.com Warmoth.com seymourduncan.com


Forum Jump


Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old December 10th, 2012, 11:38 AM   #1 (permalink)
Poster Extraordinaire
 
BobbyZ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Motley MN
Posts: 6,553
2,002 Volvo S60 ??

My brothers thinking about buying one of these and since my Volvo know how ends about 1970 I'm no help here at all.
It's a sedan with a bit over 100,000 miles, auto trans. They any good? Any major problems?

Don't want him to end up with major repairs like I maybe looking at with my 2,001 Outback. That goes in this week to check out the oil leak. It's only going to cost between one and two.
I just dont know yet if that's hundreds or THOUSANDS !

BobbyZ is online now   Reply With Quote

Old December 10th, 2012, 01:25 PM   #2 (permalink)
Tele-Meister
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Germany
Age: 57
Posts: 230
The last REAL Volvos were the 940 series.It is said: When you just drive them they get old, if you take care of them they get stone old.I won't say that the S60 is a bad car, but the frontwheel drive and the totally filled out space under the hood can make repairs tricky and expensive. The toothbelt change is in sight.I'm in the car deal and repair business for 40 years. I'd take a good 940. You can do almost any repair(if necessary) with one hand in your pocket.;)
Rydell is offline   Reply With Quote

Old December 10th, 2012, 02:19 PM   #3 (permalink)
Doctor of Teleocity
 
Toto'sDad's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Bakersfield
Posts: 12,811
My daughter has one, and it's a really nice car. If it has 100,000 miles on it, the fuel pump has either been changed or it's going to need it shortly. I made the mistake of changing the pump out on my daughter's car, I would have been better off to have just had it towed to a shop and shelled out the money to have it done.

A part went bad that we had to order, and the car sat in my drive way as a bomb for a couple of days. We put some plates over the gas tank openings, and taped them and hoped it wouldn't spark off and blow up. The pump comes out from the top of the tank, and since it hasn't been disturbed for years, you are almost assured of having something break in the process. You have to fish some wires across from one opening to another further inviting an explosion. Believe me, if I had it to do over, I would have paid to have it done.
__________________
TD and Toto, saddle pals ridin' the trail of life together just like Tonto and the Lone Ranger.
Toto'sDad is offline   Reply With Quote

Sponsored Links   #
Sponsored posting
 

Old December 10th, 2012, 02:29 PM   #4 (permalink)
Friend of Leo's
 
rebelwoclue's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: kentucky
Posts: 3,725
I have a 1999 S80 and it hasn't had anything major- saying that, if you do need to start replacing things like catalytic converters, shocks, etc. it won't be cheap. Good luck.
__________________
Any day and every day is a good day, as long as you can still play.
https://soundcloud.com/rebelwoclue
rebelwoclue is offline   Reply With Quote

Old December 10th, 2012, 02:41 PM   #5 (permalink)
Doctor of Teleocity
 
jefrs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Newbury, England
Age: 59
Posts: 13,031
We have plenty of them running around over here, some good, some bad,

Parts-wise at that age you'll be looking at stuff that wears out rather than cats and shocks - the brakes discs do wear out and cost more, a lot more, than on my Benz.

Cam belt? - if it sounds like a bag of nails, walk away.
The cam belt makers reckon their belts will last the life of he car, nevermind what the car maker says the service interval is.
__________________
There's two kinds of people, those that hear the music and those that don't.
jefrs is offline   Reply With Quote

Old December 10th, 2012, 02:57 PM   #6 (permalink)
Poster Extraordinaire
 
BobbyZ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Motley MN
Posts: 6,553
Thanks guys ! I may try to talk him into getting something like my 66 122s wagon. (a chimp with a visegrips can fix those things)
BobbyZ is online now   Reply With Quote

Old December 10th, 2012, 05:50 PM   #7 (permalink)
Tele-Afflicted
 
macaroonie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Loch Lomond Scotland -Yes
Age: 60
Posts: 1,933
I have a 97 V70 wagon with 210000 miles on it that I have abused and neglected as I use it for work ( go figure ) no major issues other than brakes , rear shocks , tie rod ends 1 cat and 1 battery. Not bad in 8 years. Engine runs a dream. Its a 5 cyl 2.5 auto.
I'll have another one all day long.
I have had in sequence a 740 wagon , and a 940 turbo wagon. This is by far the better car.
macaroonie is offline   Reply With Quote

Old December 10th, 2012, 08:00 PM   #8 (permalink)
Telefied
 
boris bubbanov's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: New Orleans, LA + in the
Posts: 35,758
Quote:
Originally Posted by Toto'sDad View Post
Believe me, if I had it to do over, I would have paid to have it done.
My Dad took a '96 Saab in to let them (the experts) do it, and they messed it up. I think he could've done it better.

I think when Ford came in, the reliability actually went up. Yes, it is much harder to work on the newer ones BUT you needn't be under there doing something every other weekend - like the old, agricultural Volvos.
boris bubbanov is offline   Reply With Quote

Old December 10th, 2012, 09:50 PM   #9 (permalink)
Poster Extraordinaire
 
BobbyZ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Motley MN
Posts: 6,553
Boris I like that "old agricultural Volvos." Other than the two SU carbs the b18 in my 122s and the B20 I'm rebuilding for it do look like something that came out of an M Farmall.

And yes the newer cars are pretty much trouble free. Heck about anything you buy today will do 100,000 miles or more with just oil changes.

I like to tinker with the old stuff. The new stuff I pay someone to fix most of the time.

Last edited by BobbyZ; December 11th, 2012 at 08:03 AM.
BobbyZ is online now   Reply With Quote

Old December 11th, 2012, 12:22 AM   #10 (permalink)
Doctor of Teleocity
 
studio1087's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Near Milwaukee
Age: 50
Posts: 16,160
We put 120,000 miles on an 850 Wagon (no problems at all) and had no problem selling it for Blue Book.

We put 144,000 miles on a V70 Wagon (no problems at all) and no problem selling it at Blue Book.

We were stopped in traffic on HWY 94 near downtown Milwaukee and a daydreaming driver in a Jeep Laredo rear ended us at about 20 MPH. The grill, lights and front bumper came off the Jeep product. Our Volvo has slight scratches on the rear bumper facia. It was like a beer can (the Jeep) hitting a brick wall (the Volvo). Our two babies were in the back seat in car seats and they were fine.

Never hit a Volvo. Volvos are very safe cars. I like Volvo.
__________________
John

"The rock and roll business is pretty absurd, but the world of serious music is much worse." - Frank Zappa
studio1087 is offline   Reply With Quote

Old December 11th, 2012, 07:21 AM   #11 (permalink)
Tele-Afflicted
 
Robbied_216's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Sydney, Australia
Age: 29
Posts: 1,088
Big Volvo fan here. I have a 1997 V70 wagon, 2.5L turbo, and it's fantastic. It's done 275,000 k's, and starts and runs great every time. I like to keep a close eye on it and replace bits as necessary. Last big one was the front shocks, which were a few hundred for the pair and 2 hours work.

It's my first Volvo and would own another in a heart beat... I actually find it fun and quite straight forward to work on.
Robbied_216 is offline   Reply With Quote

Old December 13th, 2012, 11:37 AM   #12 (permalink)
Poster Extraordinaire
 
BobbyZ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Motley MN
Posts: 6,553
Update ! My brother took the car to a mecanic for a prebuy look over. Sounds like it's a ticking time bomb. Transmission's still got the junkyard marks, the engine may have been changed too, lots of bits and pieces didn't get bolted back in, wires aren't in their holders so they're rubbing, needs tie rods, inter cooler leaks and other suspension parts and a Carfax showed all kinds of funny milage numbers.

Mecanic sounds like he does a good job on a prebuy!

Oh and the dealer is going to pay them the 90 odd bucks the inspection cost. (I think my sister in law had alot to do with that)
BobbyZ is online now   Reply With Quote

Old December 13th, 2012, 03:22 PM   #13 (permalink)
Tele-Afflicted
 
Robbied_216's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Sydney, Australia
Age: 29
Posts: 1,088
Wow! Sounds like a dud. I'm guessing the price was almost "too good to be true"?
Robbied_216 is offline   Reply With Quote

Old December 13th, 2012, 03:29 PM   #14 (permalink)
Friend of Leo's
 
Bartholomew3's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Montreal
Posts: 2,494
Had a brand-new 1971 Volvo 142E with leather etc when I was pro on the road - biggest piece of crap I ever owned.

Rusting under the doors on the rocker panels by the 2nd year, blew all kinds of suspension bushings, fuel injectors leaked, poor handling in cross-winds, valves wouldn't hold their adjustment causing all kinds of tune-up work. Hopefully the new ones are better.

Get a Honda Accord - my wife and I had approx 7 of them with no major problems ever.

Japanese cars have a boring personality - it's called reliability...
Bartholomew3 is offline   Reply With Quote

Old December 13th, 2012, 03:30 PM   #15 (permalink)
Tele-Meister
 
JurassicCactus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Baltimore MD
Posts: 230
I had a 850 that was one of the last models made in Germany. They made them in an old tank factory which is exactly what that car was. Reliable and comfortable.
JurassicCactus is offline   Reply With Quote

Old December 13th, 2012, 05:05 PM   #16 (permalink)
Poster Extraordinaire
 
BobbyZ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Motley MN
Posts: 6,553
I don't think their a bad car but like the mechanic told my brother "it's been road hard and put up wet."
BobbyZ is online now   Reply With Quote

Old December 13th, 2012, 05:21 PM   #17 (permalink)
Poster Extraordinaire
 
BobbyZ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Motley MN
Posts: 6,553
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bartholomew3 View Post
Had a brand-new 1971 Volvo 142E with leather etc when I was pro on the road - biggest piece of crap I ever owned.

Rusting under the doors on the rocker panels by the 2nd year, blew all kinds of suspension bushings, fuel injectors leaked, poor handling in cross-winds, valves wouldn't hold their adjustment causing all kinds of tune-up work. Hopefully the new ones are better.
Well first off name one car built in 71 that didn't rust? They used real salt on the roads back then and the only thing that rusted faster in the 70s than a Japanese car was a Chevy Vega.
(all chevy suck cause we had a Vega when I was a kid )

It also sounds like your machanic was an idiot. I have a 66 122s it ain't hard to ajust the valves. If you tighten the stop nuts they stay set. Just like the ones on a slant six.

Fuel injectors were a new thing back then so problems there are no suprise.
There's alot of 1800 Volvos with that system still driving around so it can't be that bad. If worked on by someone who can read a service manual.
BobbyZ is online now   Reply With Quote

Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

Forum Jump


» Random Photo for Guests
KBR Axes
Untitled Document



 


Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.2



IMPORTANT:Treat everyone here with respect, no matter how difficult! No sex, drug, political, religion or hate discussion permitted here.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0 RC 2
© TDPRI.COM 1999 - 2014 All rights reserved.