"Walk The Line" looks do be a disapointment to me

[nasonm]

I watched the trailer today for "Walk The Line"...the upcomming movie about Johnny & June Carter Cash. It doesn't look to me like something I'd want to watch.

Jaquin Phoenix (I know, I can't spell his name) plays Cash and Reese Witherspoon plays June. From what I saw on the trailer, it just seems to be missing the spark that was Johnny Cash.

Well.....say lay vee!

[Fuzzyhead]

Well, I guess I'll be watching it anyway... If I get around to it...

[andrew]

Looks intresting to me. What can you put in a movie about a man that we all know everything about? :?

[Skully]

Movies about famous people who were alive during the media age are almost always doomed to fail. Jamie Foxx's remarkable portrayal of Ray Charles in "Ray" made that film a rare exception.

[cody420]

Maybe it's because I'm from the south, but it seems like a southern accent is one of the hardest to pull off. I haven't seen the trailer yet but I'm sure Reese Witherspoon and Joaquin Phoenix attempt southern accents, and I hope they do better than every other actor that's tried it. Oh and Val Kilmer playing JIm Morisson is another one of the few that pulled off a biopic.

[JoeAArthur]

Reese Witherspoon and Joaquin Phoenix

I'm sorry... my eyes must be going bad. For a moment I was sure I saw Reese Witherspoon and Joaquin Phoenix.

Maybe I should log on tomorrow...

Yeah...

that's what I'll do...

yep...

first thing...

[Lyle Caldwell]

Reese Witherspoon is from the south, so she won't be painful to listen to. "Would I, would I" on the other hand...

[teledude66]

Originally Posted by cody420

Maybe it's because I'm from the south, but it seems like a southern accent is one of the hardest to pull off. I haven't seen the trailer yet but I'm sure Reese Witherspoon and Joaquin Phoenix attempt southern accents, and I hope they do better than every other actor that's tried it. Oh and Val Kilmer playing JIm Morisson is another one of the few that pulled off a biopic.

Kilmer and Foxx actually looked like the people they portrayed (or maybe it was good acting) Pheonix doesn't resemble Cash that much, to me that is, but i'll hold off judging til i see it ....oh and for worst southern accent ...



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Nicholas Cage in Con Air

[teledude66]

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0358273/

here's the cast list ...near the bottom they state that Pheonix sang all the songs without overdubs and learned to play the guitar from scratch....maybe he got the Esteban DVD ...lol

[nasonm]

Originally Posted by teledude66

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0358273/

here's the cast list ...near the bottom they state that Pheonix sang all the songs without overdubs and learned to play the guitar from scratch....maybe he got the Esteban DVD ...lol

I will say this....I was happy to see that they were acurate enough to have "Johnny's" Acoustic with a dollar bill fed under the strings (just like cash used to do).

[teledude66]

Originally Posted by nasonm

I will say this....I was happy to see that they were acurate enough to have "Johnny's" Acoustic with a dollar bill fed under the strings (just like cash used to do).

was that in the trailer? where did you catch the trailer?

[Joel66]

Yes, in the trailer they do show the bill in the strings. I saw the trailer when I went to see Batman Begins a couple of weeks back.


Personally, I'd have liked Mark Collie to play Johnny. Mark reminds me a lot of Johnny. Plus, I know that he has an honest love for Johnny's music.

Joel

[gls500]

You can view the trailer here:

http://movies.yahoo.com/feature/walkthelineqt1.html

I'm looking forward to the movie, but I'm not sure I'll be able to get the way Johnny sings vs. Joaquin Phoenix out of my head. I'll just try to enjoy it anyway.

[Joel Terry]

Originally Posted by teledude66

Kilmer and Foxx actually looked like the people they portrayed (or maybe it was good acting) Pheonix doesn't resemble Cash that much, to me that is, but i'll hold off judging til i see it ....

Kilmer and Foxx absolutely nailed their performances of Jim Morrison and Ray Charles, respectively. Joaquin Phoenix playing Johnny Cash? Hmmm--I don't know. I'll have to hold off judgment, too, until I see it.

As for Southern accents, Reese Witherspoon is a local girl, so a Southern accent should be old home week for her.

Originally Posted by teledude66

Oh and for worst southern accent ...



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Nicholas Cage in Con Air.

Also add:
[*]Robert DeNiro in Cape Fear[*]Jon Voight in Deliverance[*]Dan Aykroyd in Driving Miss Daisy[*]And dare I say it? Vivien Leigh in Gone With The Wind. WAAYYY too over the top. And she even won an Academy Award for that performance.

A fake Southern U.S. accent is virtually always detected by a native Southerner. Non-Southerners usually exaggerate quite a bit when trying to speak with a Southern accent, when, in fact, it's the subtle qualities of the accent that really count.

To me, Robert Duvall, a California native (San Diego, to be exact), can pull off one of the most authentic Southern accents around. Virtually undetectable.

And our very own 0le FUZZY has the peculiarities of Southern phonetics down to an absolute science. Real backwoodsy Southern phonetics.

I'm anxious to see whether Joaquin Phoenix can pull off that booming tone, let alone the Southern accent, of Johnny Cash's voice.

Originally Posted by teledude66

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0358273/

here's the cast list ...near the bottom they state that Pheonix sang all the songs without overdubs and learned to play the guitar from scratch....maybe he got the Esteban DVD ...lol

"...the Esteban DVD" LMAO!

Joel

[Joel Terry]

Well, I just saw the trailer, and I still don't know what to think of it.

Joel

[Joel66]

Originally Posted by Joel Terry

Also add:
[*]Robert DeNiro in Cape Fear[*]Jon Voight in Deliverance[*]Dan Aykroyd in Driving Miss Daisy[*]And dare I say it? Vivien Leigh in Gone With The Wind. WAAYYY too over the top. And she even won an Academy Award for that performance.


Joel

From what I've seen of the Dukes trailer I think that Jessica "yes I look good in these shorts but plug your ears" Simpson can safely be added to that list too. IMO

Sorry for the hijack.

Joel

[teledude66]

Originally Posted by Joel66

Personally, I'd have liked Mark Collie to play Johnny. Mark reminds me a lot of Johnny. Plus, I know that he has an honest love for Johnny's music.

Joel

dude they should have let you cast it, i think you're dead on with Collie...haven't heard from him lately, but he would be a good Cash

[genelovesjez]

Originally Posted by Joel66

From what I've seen of the Dukes trailer I think that Jessica "yes I look good in these shorts but plug your ears" Simpson can safely be added to that list too. IMO

Absolutely! There's a commercial running here where she says, "I think something must have bounced up into my undercarriage" in one of the worst southern accents I've heard since the original Charlie's Angels series. BTW, why did the angels always have to be southern when they went undercover?

[Joel66]

teledude66--
From what I've heard, Johnny and June knew there was a movie "in the works" and they both wanted Mark to play the lead in it. Mark was one of the people I heard it from and a local DJ was the other.

My girlfriend and I saw Mark in November and she even said to me "I never noticed it before but Mark really reminds me of Johnny Cash." He was almost a dead ringer for Johnny circa '64-'67.

genelovesjez--
That's exactly the clip I'm talking about. My family is from the south. I've visited the south for as long as I can remember. I've lived here since 1997. I've yet to hear someone pronounce the word "sir" as "suh". It's usually "surr" or "sarr". I might know "southern" better than Jessica but, I think she looks better in the shorts than I would.

Joel

[dhdfoster]

I was born in Atlanta and I have lived in N. FL/S. GA for most of my life. I am surrounded by actual southern accents, so here's my take.

"Suh" for "sir" is what I think of as an aristocratic southern accent. You do hear it, but not very often. Wealthy people from old southern families do tend to still use this accent. They may even do it on purpose to set themselves apart from the normal "redneck" southern accent. "Mustud" for '"mustard", etc.

Farm folk from Hazzard county would probably not use this accent.

It's usually "surr" or "sarr".

This is correct.

The more distance from large cities, the stonger the accent seems to get. A lot of people in Atlanta don't sound particularly Southern, but out in the rural areas it can actually be difficult to understand what they're saying. Alabama, in particlular, is extremely..umm...dialect oriented.

[Joel66]

"Suh" for "sir" is what I think of as an aristocratic southern accent. You do hear it, but not very often. Wealthy people from old southern families do tend to still use this accent. They may even do it on purpose to set themselves apart from the normal "redneck" southern accent. "Mustud" for '"mustard", etc.

Good point. I actually thought of that when I was posting. I prefer to remain one of the "little people" and 'tawk jess lack I ahways haff' That's why Fuzzy's posts are so easy for me to read. They're pretty much how I talk.

Alabama, in particlular, is extremely..umm...dialect oriented.

That's a nice way of putting it.

Joel

[teledude66]

Originally Posted by Joel66

teledude66--
From what I've heard, Johnny and June knew there was a movie "in the works" and they both wanted Mark to play the lead in it. Mark was one of the people I heard it from and a local DJ was the other.

My girlfriend and I saw Mark in November and she even said to me "I never noticed it before but Mark really reminds me of Johnny Cash." He was almost a dead ringer for Johnny circa '64-'67.


Joel

did he not do a video or something where he slick his hair back ? i'm remembering him done up 50's style for some reason ...a lot of "80's country guys need to make a comeback, i miss the Doug Stone, Mark Collie, Tracy Lawrence, era

[Joel66]

Originally Posted by teledude66

did he not do a video or something where he slick his hair back ? i'm remembering him done up 50's style for some reason ...a lot of "80's country guys need to make a comeback, i miss the Doug Stone, Mark Collie, Tracy Lawrence, era

I think the video you're thinking of is for the song "She's Never Comin' Back".

Mark did a short (approx. 20min) B & W film a while back called, I believe, "I Still Miss Someone". He portrayed Johnny. I haven't watched it but I've heard nothing but great things about it.

Sorry for the hi-jack nasonm.

Joel