Is your tuning evil?

[hannigan]

The 432 is very nice it is worth trying.
the first effort to institutionalize A=440 in fact was a conference organized by Joseph Goebbels in 1939, 440 not evil but certainly not as harmonious with the world.

I was skeptical when I first went 432 a slight getting used to it then I was hooked.
432 A is an old studio trick and I read an article that said Hendrix often tuned to 432.

When I have to tune 440 to fit in I am so happy when I switch back to 432.

Those making fun of it should try it .

[Steerforth]

What if I tuned to 666 Hz and played some really nasty metal?

Rick

[Joe Baggadonitz]

I tune to open -G and definitely play the devil's music or so some people say.

[Olav]

Who's this Betovan?

[Guitarzan]

Anyone remember Brother Billy Mayo and his Journey Into Rock Music recordings from the early 80's?

Rock music is evil, and if you listen to it backwards, you can hear satanic messages.

His catchphrase was, "I have been there!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tC7jUbM1AwE

[jazztele]

Originally Posted by hannigan

The 432 is very nice it is worth trying.
the first effort to institutionalize A=440 in fact was a conference organized by Joseph Goebbels in 1939, 440 not evil but certainly not as harmonious with the world.

I was skeptical when I first went 432 a slight getting used to it then I was hooked.
432 A is an old studio trick and I read an article that said Hendrix often tuned to 432.

When I have to tune 440 to fit in I am so happy when I switch back to 432.

Those making fun of it should try it .

Yeah but Goebbels failed.

It was those damn jazz musicians that got it pushed through.

[LarsOS]

Originally Posted by hannigan

Those making fun of it should try it .

My tuner won't let me calibrate it lower than 436. :/

Apparently Korg is in on the conspiracy.

[hannigan]

If you know who s propaganda minister says A is 440 then by Joe it is !

432 A, is just a different tuning to try ...you might like it I sure did.

Notes sustain better in the 432.

I get a lot of resistance from other players, they act like it is just wrong or heaven forbid new agey to use the 432 A. Many dismiss it without even trying it for themselves.

Oh well, I guess the propaganda was successful .

[Lenderman_k]

Originally Posted by Steerforth

What happens if I tune to 420Hz and then sit there and play the "Devil's Interval" all afternoon? Will it bring about the Apocalypse?

Rick

I think you'd have to play it backwards lol

[LarsOS]

Originally Posted by hannigan

Notes sustain better in the 432.

Maybe the sustain is better with slacker strings? How is the sustain in 415?

[earoach]

Originally Posted by sixstringbastard

220... 221... Whatever it takes

Dang! That movie belongs in the "Ice Station Zebra" thread for me!

[dsutton24]

Well, here ya go:

But there's a lot of other striking things about 432, without sounding too 'hippy-like' 432 unifies the properties of light, time, space, matter, gravity and magnetism with biology, the DNA code and consciousness. Some of those unifications are not without mathematical merit: Take light, 432 times 432 = 186624, the speed of light is 186400 mps ( miles per second ), a difference of .001201.

Point is, that by all arguments, A=432hz is more in touch with nature and us, this is some text I cited but it sums up the notion better than I could have worded it:

The Schiller Institute campaign for a change in concert pitch from A440 Hz back to A432 Hz is based that 432 Hz is deeply intertwined in nature.

The recent rediscoveries of the true vibrational nature of energy indicates that current contemporary A440 Hz international tuning generates a deliberate unhealthy effect in the environment. It brings about an unnatural 8 Hz change in how we think and how our DNA regulates our genetic makeup.

Our brains and DNA are deeply connected to 432 through the procession of the equinox and 8 Hz cosmic frequencies.

A natural measured phenomenon that supports the idea of 432 Hz intertwined in organic basis is the movement of the Sun and Saturn.

All harmonic overtone partials of 432Hz line up to natural patterns and even planetary orbits.

64 108 128 144 216 256 432 864 etc

Truly all frequencies affect DNA and consciousness as we are in a musical universal medium of dimension through the motion of frequency.

The issue is as far as Concert pitch goes, the farther up you go from base code C=128hz (A=432Hz)then the farther you remove the Etheric body that imprints memory on the water in your cells. This is why 440Hz and higher concert pitches can be experienced up and to the side of the head Whereas 432Hz can be experienced in the body at the Spine and Heart.

http://www.musicradar.com/forum/show...t=71671&page=1

I vaguely remember this being a big deal to a certain political figure from the not so distant past who also wanted to colonize Mars and outlaw sick people.

[DaBender]

Take light, 432 times 432 = 186624, the speed of light is 186400 mps ( miles per second ), a difference of .001201.

And the natural basis of a mile or a second is?

[LarsOS]

I was wondering about that, too. Numerology may be fun if you like that sort of thing, but when you scrutinize it, it's most often just the Texas sharpshooter fallacy in a pseudoscientific guise.

without sounding too 'hippy-like'

I like this sort of disclaimer. Just like "With all due respect", or "I'm not racist, but..." they tend to sum up the following paragraph(s) succinctly, as long as you negate the sentence.

432 Hz is deeply intertwined in nature

Citation needed.

It brings about an unnatural 8 Hz change in how we think and how our DNA regulates our genetic makeup.

Hey, why doesn't the text mention any quantum? Any text without quantum in it is deeply untrustworthy, and part of the n@z1 conspiracy. We clearly want quantum tuning, where the frequency is 432 Hz, and at the same time not 432 Hz! That's what corresponds with our souls, like revealed by Nostredamus channeling Rasputin who we all know worked for CERN before the LHC turned the Earth into a black hole? Ok.

[hannigan]

Nothing wrong with liking 440 A , you should all at least try the 432 with out getting hung up . It is easy to try what gets me is that so many dismiss the 432 A having never tried it.

Use your ears and feelings and check it out.
The 432 A seems to scare a lot of folks and that seems odd to me.

People have emotional attachments to their habits perhaps that is why the resistance.

Just a different way to be another color in your pallet

I seem to recall 432 correlates to the Fibonacci sequence ... all I know is it sounds dang pleasant. If thats what you are aiming for.

[gypsymoth]

as someone alluded to, 440 was "discovered" by german scientists pre WWII, not working on musical issues. after WWII an effort was made to standardize tuning as it was considered convenient for touring concert pianists/violinists - prior to that orchestras and everyone else tuned to the church or concert hall organ, and every builder had their own standard. obviously this could present issues even in a single larger city with organs from multiple builders.

[hannigan]

Originally Posted by gypsymoth

as someone alluded to, 440 was "discovered" by german scientists pre WWII, not working on musical issues. after WWII an effort was made to standardize tuning as it was considered convenient for touring concert pianists/violinists - prior to that orchestras and everyone else tuned to the church or concert hall organ, and every builder had their own standard. obviously this could present issues even in a single larger city with organs from multiple builders.

Yup dang pianos my piano is 440 A... there is a program that converts recordings to 432 iffin ya fancy .

[LarsOS]

Hannigan, how do you tune to 432? Do you have a sound file with a sine wave at that frequency, or is your tuner calibrated to 432, or do you have perfect pitch? It doesn't seem that easy for me to do, as I have neither.

[Steerforth]

I've got a tuner that calibrates to anything I tell it. I retuned my Road Worn 50s Tele to 432 this morning. I don't know if there's a difference yet. I have been quite relaxed today, even after finding out that my backorder is going to be on backorder for longer than I thought.

So, if "Children of Bodom" re-recorded "Hellhounds On My Trail" at 432 Hz, do you think it would take on a kinder, gentler vibe?

Rick

[hannigan]

Originally Posted by LarsOS

Hannigan, how do you tune to 432? Do you have a sound file with a sine wave at that frequency, or is your tuner calibrated to 432, or do you have perfect pitch? It doesn't seem that easy for me to do, as I have neither.

I use a tuner. if the math is giving you trouble or your tuner is older find a reference 432A on the web and use that to get started.