Old, old, old

[colorado]

OK I'm sure this will tick some people off, but that is what the internet was designed to do. (Internet requirement spec #147: Provide easy means to tick people off.)

I remember as a kid seeing shows where they would have some old geezer (usually an actor or musician) totter on to stage and everyone would gush and clap and they would show old clips of them when they could actually play or act and weren't some old dried up arthritic husk of their former self. My parents would ohh and aww and I would be waiting for them to usher this ancient relic off the stage so we could watch something interesting.

Anyway, reading threads lately about how incredibly ancient Jagger and McCartney and Dylan and etc. have become got me thinking about how their generation has finally reached irrelavance. We indulge them and still love them but they really are a bunch of old wankers that verge on the pathetic when they "perform".

I mean nobody would really want to see some old, old man "rockin out" if they weren't already famous.

I mean there is the novelty factor like seeing an old fart skateboarding but nobody wants to go see a 70+ skateboard competition. ("Jim, these are some top notch competitors, nobody broke a hip today.").

I know people will post videos of McCartney or Jagger "rockin" to prove how wrong I am. And don't get me wrong, I love these guys. They have brought so much enjoyment to my life it is almost ridiculous. But they are OLD. It is embarassing to see McCartney (who is 70) singing "Well she's was just seventeen..." not to mention creepy.

I guess I'm just feeling old and realizing that my generation's day has come and is now on the way out the door. Which is as it should be but it still is...(sad, humbling, depressing???). I think my generation (baby boom) still has something to offer just not in pop culture. (management skills?, fertilizer?)

I think they need to hang it up or do something totally different. McCartney and Jagger and the rest of that generation are frozen in amber. What they are now is not what they were then.

Side note: I don't really care for it but at least Plant doesn't do Zep.

[DrumBob]

It sound like you're ready to give up and die-God forbid. You're as old as you feel and I don't feel my age.

At least most of the time.

[Brad Pittiful]

youre an ageist!

[colorado]

Damn straight. Old people smell funny.

[kelnet]

You could just change the channel or listen to something else.


I hope nobody is trying to tell me what I "should do" when I'm 70. I think by then I'll have earned the right to make my own decisions about what I want to do with my life.

[KenH]

Is there an age that musicians should quit? Maybe a little Soylent Green Part 2.

I still like Merle. Joan Rivers, now she should quit!

[colorado]

kelnet: Tell that to my mother-in-law with alzheimers in the nursing home. She doesn't get to call the shots.

KenH: McCartney burgers would be way too tough, although I hear Jagger tastes like chicken. Not necessarily quit, but quit doing songs written by/about being a horny teenager.

[kelnet]

Originally Posted by colorado

kelnet: Tell that to my mother-in-law with alzheimers in the nursing home. She doesn't get to call the shots.

That's sad, but it has nothing to do with Mick Jagger or my post.

[ROADMAN]

Originally Posted by colorado

OK I'm sure this will tick some people off, but that is what the internet was designed to do. (Internet requirement spec #147: Provide easy means to tick people off.)

I remember as a kid seeing shows where they would have some old geezer (usually an actor or musician) totter on to stage and everyone would gush and clap and they would show old clips of them when they could actually play or act and weren't some old dried up arthritic husk of their former self. My parents would ohh and aww and I would be waiting for them to usher this ancient relic off the stage so we could watch something interesting.

Anyway, reading threads lately about how incredibly ancient Jagger and McCartney and Dylan and etc. have become got me thinking about how their generation has finally reached irrelavance. We indulge them and still love them but they really are a bunch of old wankers that verge on the pathetic when they "perform".

I mean nobody would really want to see some old, old man "rockin out" if they weren't already famous.

I mean there is the novelty factor like seeing an old fart skateboarding but nobody wants to go see a 70+ skateboard competition. ("Jim, these are some top notch competitors, nobody broke a hip today.").

I know people will post videos of McCartney or Jagger "rockin" to prove how wrong I am. And don't get me wrong, I love these guys. They have brought so much enjoyment to my life it is almost ridiculous. But they are OLD. It is embarassing to see McCartney (who is 70) singing "Well she's was just seventeen..." not to mention creepy.

I guess I'm just feeling old and realizing that my generation's day has come and is now on the way out the door. Which is as it should be but it still is...(sad, humbling, depressing???). I think my generation (baby boom) still has something to offer just not in pop culture. (management skills?, fertilizer?)

I think they need to hang it up or do something totally different. McCartney and Jagger and the rest of that generation are frozen in amber. What they are now is not what they were then.

Side note: I don't really care for it but at least Plant doesn't do Zep.

I'm hearing what your saying probably more so because I've never really been a big fan of Jagger or McCartney....oddly enough I've always been a Plant fan....i think no matter what age you get to, along the way you have to find a comfortable point of sensibility that compliments your spirit and persona...Paul and Mick have reached their respective "best before" dates for theirs.....Dylan is still Dylan

[gguitar55]

Oh go f........ahhh, forgot what I was gonna say.

[PapaBeef]

I caught a radio interview with Robert Plant a few years ago. And I think he meant it as a little shot at Jagger when he said that he realized he had reached the age when he could no longer get away with wearing skin tight slacks and a woman's blouse & prancing around the stage like...in heat...
Cracked me up.
If I still enjoy listening to some old fart & he or she still enjoys playing I'll watch & listen to them when they come on.
If not I'll change the channel.
Nobody says I have to watch or that I can't watch if I want to. It's my choice.
The same thing applies to everyone out there.
If you don't want to watch someone who's on TV pick up the remote & use it.

[Bernie]

In his book (p. 241) , Keith Richards said/wrote:

"Levitation is probably the closest analogy to what I feel - whether it's "Jumpin' Jack Flash" or "All Down the Line" - when I realize I've hit the right tempo and the band's behind me. It's like taking off in a Learjet. I have no sense that my feet are touching the ground. I'm elevated to this other space. People say "Why don't you give it up?" I can't retire until I croak. I don't think they quite understand what I get out of this. I'm not doing it just for the money or for you. I'm doing it for me."

[Westerly Sunn]

Originally Posted by Bernie

In his book (p. 241) , Keith Richards said/wrote:
I don't think they quite understand what I get out of this. I'm not doing it just for the money or for you. I'm doing it for me."

Who wouldn't understand this? Why play music in the 1st place?

[J-man]

Originally Posted by ROADMAN

i think no matter what age you get to, along the way you have to find a comfortable point of sensibility that compliments your spirit and persona...Paul and Mick have reached their respective "best before" dates for theirs.....Dylan is still Dylan

Agreed.

[Boubou]

Right on, bring on the new generations! BIEBER FOREVER

[PapaLion]

At 17 I couldn't stand Sinatra... now, 45 years later, I enjoy just about every song the man ever sang.

[trev333]

It's never ending these days down under...

all these "once name" bands are doing big shows, pre sold on the internet months in advance..or headlining big festivals,,,Bands/Artists I never realised were still playing... or alive in some cases ;)

aww geez not them... oh dear..

Promoters must think it's a gold mine here for the old legends..considering the ticket prices they charge... plenty of punters queing up...they'll pay to see anyone with a name from "OS" it seems... wrinkly or not...

while people still buy the tickets,,, the guys are stupid not to do the shows ..

I've stopped going to the big OS band shows/festivals... and mostly go and see local bands...or see the OS musos who think our small town pub is worthy enough to play a show at.. ;)

[tele salivas]

If you want to be proper, it looks ridiculous for anybody that is past 16 or 17 to be "rocking out" , but people shagging looks ridiculous at any age, and ain't nobody going to stop doing that cause it looks ridiculous. Bruce Lee said, "Dont think, feeeeel" adn I agree with that when it comes to physio-emotional activities like sports, music, tha art of love or swordfighting, It's okay to be a human, having fun.

[dan1952]

Are we all supposed to start playing the standards from the 1930's and 40's when we get older? Can't wait to hear some young group come into the nursing home when I'm 90, singing "Outside Woman Blues" or "China Grove."
%*@& a bunch of decorum, I'll get old when I feel like it. And, BTW, Jagger can still bring it!

[Solrac Kai]

*shaking fist* get off my lawn you damn kids!