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Old May 11th, 2012, 03:49 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Fished local tournaments for years and loved it. Sold my boat right after I bought my bike because between the bike and guitars I don't have any more money.






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Old May 11th, 2012, 07:56 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Old May 11th, 2012, 09:18 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Oh, this isn't about hunting (like for guitars) or phishing (like for scams)... Sorry. LOL
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Old May 11th, 2012, 09:56 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Ducks and pheasants. The falcon doesn't stir them up, I do. Let the falcon go, it flies up to as high as it's going to go (usually to where it's about the size of this period -> . ). Then you flush your quarry. The falcons stoops.

This video pretty much nails it except that they're flying two birds at once which is unusual:

Those birds are awesome..
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I caught a 6'1" sturgeon when I was 12, but I don't have a photo (my dad has it somewhere).
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Old May 11th, 2012, 10:33 PM   #26 (permalink)
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My first halibut at the San Pedro Marina. This picture was taken years ago though which can be seen by my maturity level.
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Old May 12th, 2012, 10:11 AM   #27 (permalink)
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Fished local tournaments for years and loved it. Sold my boat right after I bought my bike because between the bike and guitars I don't have any more money.
Wow! Those are beautiful fish! Do you regret selling your boat? I could not even imagine selling my boat. Crappie fishing and guitars are my main hobbies. I almost bought a bike instead of a boat. Same as you one or the other.
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Old May 12th, 2012, 10:36 AM   #28 (permalink)
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It is easy to see why people don't "get" certain aspects of hunting. Those of us that do, know some things. Nuff said.

Here are a couple of fish pix. Striper from the surf, Northern pike from Lake Champlain, and the most beautiful wild native brook trout from the Northwoods of Quebec.
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When I was a kid, we were lucky to see a split second glimpse of a turkey, before it jumped under a leaf and disappeared.

Now they stand on the side of the highway here in Florida and laugh at people driving by!

I switched to pork a long time ago anyway.

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Wow! Those are beautiful fish! Do you regret selling your boat? I could not even imagine selling my boat. Crappie fishing and guitars are my main hobbies. I almost bought a bike instead of a boat. Same as you one or the other.
I do regret selling the boat and I really miss fishing. Especially right now. The TVA filled up the lakes around here about 2 months earlier than normal, every time I drive by I just think I could be killing them on a Bandit or a jig.

Oh well, the wife didn't like to be on the boat and actually the bike was her idea. Something we can do together. Guitars are permenant though.
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This was somewhere in the mid-90s at a lake near here. I spent a couple years fishing but got back into guitar playing seriously and lost interest in the fish. Too much rain here.

I put the fish back safely, incidentally. She was 22 pounds and about 3 feet long.


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Can you guys explain turkey hunting? I just don't get it.

I mean, I don't get any hunting, but I have no qualms with hunters, at least if a mutual respect comes into play, half my family are/were hunters.

I see turkeys all the time! Why do I want to hunt and or kill one? It just doesn't seem sporty.

They're slow, and stupid. No offense turkeys. Where's the sport?
Ask a hard working farmer about turkeys. Turkeys eat and eat and eat and eat crops. They are invasive animals.

Turkeys have 180 degree telescopic vision. Move your pinky 1 mm and hold the rest of your body very still.....a turkey will see your pinky moving at 1000 feet just as easy as you are reading your computer monitor. A turkey can see your eye blinking at 200 yards.

I think that you've seen turkeys from your car. Try to get within 200 feet of a wild turkey when you are on foot. Just try. I bet you'll never be able to do it. Respectfully......you don't have any idea how complicated and skilled they are.

Hunting?

For me it's organic food......just like our garden or the maple trees that we tap. I work in packaging. Some of the machines that I sell are modified atmosphere food packaging machines. I can make supermarket hamburger stay pink for 12 days + ....easy. It's safe. I just don't like eating it. I would rather eat something from my back yard.

I got an 8 point buck last year....the only photos that I have are post-dressing and I grossed people out the last time that I posted them.

Here's another photo. My wife shot this from her SUV window about 1/2 mile from our land about 3 months ago. This is like the tomatoes that we grow in our garden......it's food that I trust.



It's not about the kill or my gun or any macho stuff for me. It's like harvesting. I enjoy cooking. I enjoy cooking game. We have lots of big deer here that feed off the corn crops.

My turkey hunting camo is a bit ridiculous. I could stand 20 feet away from you in the woods and you wouldn't see me. Makes me feel a bit odd.
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Old May 13th, 2012, 03:49 PM   #35 (permalink)
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Studio, I apologized in my 2nd post(post #20)



but thanks for telling me how you think I've seen turkeys.



And you're right, I have no idea how skilled they are, as proven by my original post.
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For me it's organic food......just like our garden or the maple trees that we tap. I work in packaging. Some of the machines that I sell are modified atmosphere food packaging machines. I can make supermarket hamburger stay pink for 12 days + ....easy. It's safe. I just don't like eating it. I would rather eat something from my back yard.

It's not about the kill or my gun or any macho stuff for me. It's like harvesting. I enjoy cooking. I enjoy cooking game. We have lots of big deer here that feed off the corn crops.

Studio, I feel the same way. No required antibiotics, no steriods, no artificial anything, like in our store bought beef.

When asked, I also explain the kill shot using the analogy of a period at the end of a sentence. Assuming fair chase, it takes a lot of preperation, luck and skill to be able to put meat on the table.

After hunting deer, elk and speed goats in the US, I took two trips to South Africa to try safari style hunting of antelope there. There's something like 43 different species of antelope in RSA. It took me 3 days to ge a shot on a Kudu. They don't call it the "grey ghost" for nothing, they're about the size of our elk. Amazing variety! I took Impala, Springbok, Red Hartebeest, Gemsbok (pictured above previously), Blue & Black Wildebeest, Reedbok, & Blesbok. I saw Eland, Nyala, Giraffe, Cape Buffalo, White Rhino, Duiker, Warthog, Waterbuck, Zebra & Sable.

In fact, here is a young bull Eland that the land owner was hand feeding and making into a pet. Fully mature, they are in the 1200 lb range and very good eating!



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In fact, here is a young bull Eland that the land owner was hand feeding and making into a pet. Fully mature, they are in the 1200 lb range and very good eating!
Now that is an interesting story. The game fees for them are fairly expensive, and get crazy high for some of the less common varieties. They don't naturally overlap with some of the other common plains game, and one may have to travel a bit to get to eland hunting ground.

People outside of hunting have no idea of how beneficial commercial hunting has been for wildlife populations on the African continent, and for the people in rural areas. If one wants to see a sub-saharan nation with good wild animal populations, look to those with the best commercial hunting. The non-hunting safari tourism helps too, but the govt landmass and animals they do/can control is small in comparison. Moreover, when there is a commercial value on the animals, fee sharing with the indigenous population, meat supply carryover, and jobs as Professional Hunters and beaters, a lot of people in rural areas care about successful commercial hunting. It puts money into hands of tribesmen that can consume food from commercial agriculture and provides relief from subsistence, which in turn takes pressure off animals that would otherwise be snared or shot for invading gardens and crops. The standard of living and diversity of diet is better, and it's because of more animals and commercial hunting. S. Africa, Botswana, and Namibia are all good examples of the foregoing. Zimbabwe/Rhodesia is a good lesson in the opposite. It used to have good animal populations, good hunting, and a lot of commercial agriculture. Civil war and the loss of private property changed it all, and killed the hunter tourism, led to subsistence hunting and poaching, and hammered the animal population.
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I have wild turkeys in my backyard that are almost as tame as house cats. They may be wily to hunters, but they're difficult to shoo away and can be fairly aggressive.
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Now that is an interesting story. The game fees for them are fairly expensive, and get crazy high for some of the less common varieties. They don't naturally overlap with some of the other common plains game, and one may have to travel a bit to get to eland hunting ground.

People outside of hunting have no idea of how beneficial commercial hunting has been for wildlife populations on the African continent, and for the people in rural areas. If one wants to see a sub-saharan nation with good wild animal populations, look to those with the best commercial hunting. The non-hunting safari tourism helps too, but the govt landmass and animals they do/can control is small in comparison. Moreover, when there is a commercial value on the animals, fee sharing with the indigenous population, meat supply carryover, and jobs as Professional Hunters and beaters, a lot of people in rural areas care about successful commercial hunting. It puts money into hands of tribesmen that can consume food from commercial agriculture and provides relief from subsistence, which in turn takes pressure off animals that would otherwise be snared or shot for invading gardens and crops. The standard of living and diversity of diet is better, and it's because of more animals and commercial hunting. S. Africa, Botswana, and Namibia are all good examples of the foregoing. Zimbabwe/Rhodesia is a good lesson in the opposite. It used to have good animal populations, good hunting, and a lot of commercial agriculture. Civil war and the loss of private property changed it all, and killed the hunter tourism, led to subsistence hunting and poaching, and hammered the animal population.
You are spot on! I saw the benefits firsthand there. It's real and tangible. Zimbabwe is a disaster! By the way, I was a mere 10' away from that young bull Eland when I snapped that close up of him. He was amazing with the land owner, I was in awe that there was such trust between them.

Another fact, here in North America, the taxes collected from hunters per the Pittman-Robertson Act collect $Billions every year that get re-distributed back to the States for wildlife conservation and preservation. Way, way, way more substantive benefit than any of the anti-hunting groups do for the wildlife they embrace.
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