How did a brand new band like the RHCP get into the RRHOF?

[J-man]

Originally Posted by notdave

Their first album came out in 84. I bought it.

Here you go:

Formed as a hardcore punk band in 1979, they appeared on the compilation cassette New York Thrash, before recording their first EP Polly Wog Stew, in 1982. After achieving moderate local success with the 1983 experimental hip hop 12" Cooky Puss, the group transitioned to hip hop in 1984 and released a string of successful 12" singles. The Beastie Boys toured with Madonna in 1985 and a year later released their debut album Licensed to Ill. The group sold 22 million albums in the United States and 40 million albums worldwide, making them, according to Billboard, "the biggest-selling rap group" since 1991.

[OlRedNeckHippy]

I always considered the Beasties Rap, and wondered what that had to do with Rock-n-Roll when I saw they got inducted. Seemed like Rap to me, or Hip Hop or whatever you want to call it, but I sure wouldn't label it Rock-n-Roll.

Hop Hop has no place in the same musieum with Hendrix, Joplin, Morrison, and Grateful Dead piano players.

Standout Non-Inductie: Tod Rundgren
RRHoF is a commercial marketing ploy and a slap in the face to real Rock-n-Roll.

[sixstringbastard]

The Beasties made lots of different kinds of music. Have you ever listend to any of their albums?

Originally Posted by OlRedNeckHippy

I always considered the Beasties Rap music, and wondered what that had to do with Rock-n-Roll when I saw they got inducted. Seemed like Rap to me, or Hip Hop or whatever you want to call it, but I sure wouldn't label it Rock-n-Roll.

Hop Hop has no place in the same musieum with Hendrix, Joplin, Morrison, and Grateful Dead piano players.

Standout Non-Inductie: Tod Rundgren
RRHoF is a commercial marketing ploy and a slap in the face to real Rock-n-Roll.

[imsilly]

Originally Posted by sixstringbastard

The Beasties made lots of different kinds of music. Have you ever listend to any of their albums?

Yeah, they started as a punk band.

Also not inducting Link Wray is just ridiculous. Invents hard rock, inspires a generation of acclaimed rock musicians, gets ignored by mainstream media. I love pretty much everything Link Wray did, very underrated just because he doesn't fit the mold of your average hard rock guitarist twiddling away boring scales and break neck speed.

[telequacktastic]

RHCP-Well I'm not a fan but, they were pioneering in mixing funk with punk and stuff. I guess if you made a record label alot of money with a #1 hit like that song "under the bridge" in 1992 and sold like several multi-platinum albums you get in. There are probably plenty of examples of multi-platinum artists that aren't in there but, it's just an attempt at the explanation of the OP

Beasties-I've always been a fan
Rush-it's a crime they ain't in there, but who cares... they don't need it, screw the Rock and Roll House of Pancakes

[notdave]

Originally Posted by J-man

Here you go:

I meant the RHCP. Their first album was imaginatively titled The Red Hot Chilli Peppers

I miss the Virgin megastores...

[J-man]

Originally Posted by notdave

I meant the RHCP. Their first album was imaginatively titled The Red Hot Chilli Peppers

Ohhh..

[boris bubbanov]

Originally Posted by Post Toastie

The Rock and Roll Hall of Shame is a joke!

The wheels came off the wagon, for the same reason things went wrong at the Boxing Hall of Fame. Trying to expand the base; catering to special groups.

When it isn't based on history, isn't based on merit, and is not consistent, expands in some directions and not others, you get compost.

Come on. Rock was supposed to be about youth, about rebellion. When you let businessmen like Alice Cooper and Gene Simmons (yes I know) make the decisions, it stops being a statement and becomes a commodity.

[OlRedNeckHippy]

Originally Posted by sixstringbastard

The Beasties made lots of different kinds of music. Have you ever listend to any of their albums?

You have a good point SixString.
I have Not listened to any of their albums. With my musical tastes, I've never made it through one whole song of theirs, that I know of, and am really judging something I know very little about.
I'm an old rock-n-roller gone country, and I know my Rock-n-roll. I grew up on Led Zepplin, Black Sabath and Humble Pie.
To me, the Beasties is rap - we are all entitled to our own opinions.

More of a comment on the entire RRHoF. They have alienated a lot of people, me included.

[soul-o]

Yep, any institution that picks and chooses which artists get celebrated goes against the original pulse of rock and roll. And yes, it's controlled by old, corporate rockers and, again, that is not what rock and roll was about. That said, it;s pretty nice to see some of the old- timers get recognized, some of the old black acts that laid the groundwork and never got paid. At least they get a nice night out where everybody acknowledges them.

That said, I gotta believe that the definition of what constitutes "rock and roll" has been blown wide open at this point. Most of the music on my iPod was made before man landed on the moon, I can be as old fashioned as the next guy. But I'm in my early 40s, and just in my life I have seen most of the old guys who defined traditional rock. I've also seen My Bloody Valentine and the Jesus And Mary Chain absolutely squall with howling feedback for hours on end, I've seen Yoko Ono scream with Sonic Youth while Thurston beat his Jazzmaster with a crescent wrench, I've seen Iggy Pop and NRBQ play Wooly Bully for 20 minutes, I've seen Tom Morello form Rage Against The Machine do turntable scratching on his guitar, I've seen David Torn and David Sylvian from Japan weave ambient harmonic halos form the future. What's rock and roll?

The influence of hip hop on rock music goes back 25 years. Blondie may have hit the mainstream first with Rapture, but for better or worse, hip hop has been part of the language of rock since the early 80s.

[Nick JD]

Abba is in the RRHOF. Michael Jackon is in there.

Has anyone actually looked up what this "institution" is? Load of crap.

Why is this even a pertinent question?

[ifallalot]

Check out the Beastie's album "The Mix Up" - its all instrumental grooves played by the trio and its awesome. They had another instrumental album in the early 90s that was sick too

[TNO]

The instrumental out takes from "Paul's Boutique" sound like music to me.

[Arbiter]

When Rush refuses their nomination somebody give me a yell. Until that day, for me there is no such thing as a "Rock and Roll Hall of Fame".

[emu!]

Why isn't there a Losers Hall of Fame? Without losers, there would be no winners...therefore no one would be envious and the winners would become losers for lack of fame.

[boris bubbanov]

Originally Posted by emu!

the winners would become losers for lack of fame.

That's more or less, what you got.

Michael Jackson? Beasties? Abba? Madonna?

May as well be called the Barbershop Quartet Hall of Fame because it is all about the Haul and the Fame and not about what kind of music or noise it is. Frankly. Sales, and popular appeal are what seem to matter; oh, and you gotta be part of the "team" I guess.

[sixstringbastard]

....and Zeppelin is just a folk band. I've listened to several of their songs and they're all mandolins and acoustic guitars

Originally Posted by OlRedNeckHippy

You have a good point SixString.
I have Not listened to any of their albums. With my musical tastes, I've never made it through one whole song of theirs, that I know of, and am really judging something I know very little about.
I'm an old rock-n-roller gone country, and I know my Rock-n-roll. I grew up on Led Zepplin, Black Sabath and Humble Pie.
To me, the Beasties is rap - we are all entitled to our own opinions.

More of a comment on the entire RRHoF. They have alienated a lot of people, me included.

[Stuco]

So 30 years is 'brand new'? A better question would be why do rap artists get inducted.

[Rolling Estonian]

Listen to Sabotage and tell me the Beasties don't bring it.

M

[jipp]

i think they both are a joke. not the bands, but the organizations for country and rock fame. i mean hank is not in the country hall of fame. im not a country fan perse. but i know enough about it to know he should be. but hank jr son lets them know what he thinks of grand old opera or whatever it.
he sure sounds like his grandpa too when he wants too. he is sorta country/punk i guess i hate categorys. its just silly to try and label something now adays. to many cultures have mesh to really say what is what i think.

i dunno if rory gallagher is in the rock n fame. if not i would add him to the list. i love his music , thin lizzy too. rorys irish accent worked great with the blues/rock. and heck, just for owning the first fender sold in Ireland is just cool in its own right. ( my grandma was from Ireland so maybe im just a bias idiot, whatever )

heck rory could even rock the mandolin:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=zYYbK2sDaJ4
chris.