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Old March 26th, 2012, 04:05 PM   #21 (permalink)
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I disagree. The modern equipment is more powerful and forgiving than what Jack played with. Jack was a total badass on the course.
If Bobby Jones had modern gear he would have been the best ever. He was crazy good.
Also consider the courses that the old guys played on, not nearly as nicely maintained as today. Add the strength coach, dietitian, sports psychiatrist etc. It's apples and oranges.

I don't think he's going to do very poorly at the Masters. I think every player has that in their mind again.

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Old March 26th, 2012, 04:17 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Old March 26th, 2012, 05:04 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Hogan perfected the modern golf swing, did his stint in the armed service during time of war, came back became the world's greatest player. He had a traffic accident where a bus crossed the divider line hitting he and his wife's car head on, and it's an actual validated fact that he through himself between his wfe and the dashboard saving her and nearly losing his own life. He could not walk after the accident, had to relearn golf, and used to halve to wrap his legs before playing, he went on the win the US Open after that.

When we're talking what might have been, well, Jack (whom I admire, and Tiger, (whom I.......) well they both would have had their hands full with a healthy Hogan with good sticks in his hand. Too bad we can't really match up greats from the past, if we could, Jimmie would be dualing with Stevie.
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Old March 26th, 2012, 05:19 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Hogan would be dueling with Hagen.
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Old March 26th, 2012, 05:44 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Old March 26th, 2012, 07:13 PM   #26 (permalink)
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I watched and as a long time golf lover, reader, watcher & occasional hacker dig the comments on Hogan & Nicklaus. Remarkable golfers. Many who have only paid attention to golf during the Tiger era have missed a lot...

Tiger played very well. I'll stick with what I said here before: he will win more tourneys but will never be the dominating force he once was due to a seed of uncertainty within him & I'll add that his body is aging quite rapidly.
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Old March 26th, 2012, 07:44 PM   #27 (permalink)
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Stubee wrote:

Tiger played very well. I'll stick with what I said here before: he will win more tourneys but will never be the dominating force he once was due to a seed of uncertainty within him & I'll add that his body is aging quite rapidly.

I think Tiger will certainly win again, maybe even get back to winning majors. He has lost something though, you can see that, he's now an outstanding golfer, but perhaps no longer the greatest golfer, time will tell. He always has suffered a little from tall guy stoop, got rid of it when he was lifting, but now it's back. He looks thinner, and not quite as buff, still looking good, but no longer as cut as he was. He looked relieved to be back, I hope he adds a lot more wins to his record. I was wrong about him not coming back, he's back, maybe not better than ever, but good enough to win again.
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Old March 26th, 2012, 11:40 PM   #28 (permalink)
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While impressive that he (finally) won again... I don't think he's back (yet).

The Masters awaits. We'll see...
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Old March 26th, 2012, 11:42 PM   #29 (permalink)
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I disagree. The modern equipment is more powerful and forgiving than what Jack played with. Jack was a total badass on the course.
If Bobby Jones had modern gear he would have been the best ever. He was crazy good.
...and the golfers that Woods goes up against have access to that same powerful and forgiving equipment.
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Old March 27th, 2012, 12:15 AM   #30 (permalink)
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I thought the pros did not want forgiving (game improvement) equipment. I thought they wanted "player" equipment.

They use blade irons vs cavity back, and driver heads that are only 400cc vs 460cc (or whatever the biggest legal size is).

They want to work the ball, and not have the clubs "correct" the ball flight.

The technology is better. Probably means more distance. Accuracy and scrambling, however, are still up to the player.

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Old March 27th, 2012, 12:28 AM   #31 (permalink)
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I thought the pros did not want forgiving (game improvement) equipment. I thought they wanted "player" equipment.

They use blade irons vs cavity back, and driver heads that are only 400cc vs 460cc (or whatever the biggest legal size is).

They want to work the ball, and not have the clubs "correct" the ball flight.

The technology is better. Probably means more distance. Accuracy and scrambling, however, are still up to the player.

IMO.
You're pretty much right but blades today aren't what they used to be, many use cavity backs. They also use the best drivers and balls that their sponsors can provide.

I agree that it's the magician and not the wand but any advantage will be utilized. Jack had a quote to that affect back in the day, any advantage that the game allows, take it.

As for the Masters, remember, he's finished 4th the last two years.

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Old March 27th, 2012, 07:12 AM   #32 (permalink)
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I publicly said that Tiger would never win another PGA tournament ever again.

I guess I was wrong.

Couldn't happen to a nicer guy.
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Old March 27th, 2012, 04:23 PM   #33 (permalink)
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TV networks love Tiger! I like him too, he's good for the game . . .
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Old March 27th, 2012, 08:34 PM   #34 (permalink)
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How women root for him and encourage their children to do the same is a sad commentary. Watching them fawn over him when he walks by just amazes me.

His ability ,focus and determination are impressive. He is great for the Tour financially. But he is not someone I would ever root for or follow around like a puppy.

I will always root for the "field" when he is golfing. I hope he doesn't dominate again.

When he is on he is pretty tuff to beat. It will be interesting from here on out.
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Old March 27th, 2012, 10:24 PM   #35 (permalink)
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We'll see.

The part I can't stand are the commentators that just pee all over themselves when he hits a good shot. The almighty ratings.
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Old March 27th, 2012, 10:30 PM   #36 (permalink)
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How women root for him and encourage their children to do the same is a sad commentary. Watching them fawn over him when he walks by just amazes me.
How is Tiger different from many other big name players? Athletic, rock band, TV or movie actors. I would guess having the groupies fawn over you is one reason to live your life on the road.
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How is Tiger different from many other big name players? Athletic, rock band, TV or movie actors. I would guess having the groupies fawn over you is one reason to live your life on the road.
His is very similar to some and very different from others.
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