Home recording UPDATE

J-man · April 25th, 2005, 12:11 PM

Ok, thanks for all the help with the bare essentials for recording thread, hopefully it's all sorted now, I have all the stuff I should hopefully need on order!

Beyer TG-X 58 mic

Behringer UB802

And a stereo patch, + 3 pin XLR cable.

Please tell me I haven't missed anything!

popthree · April 25th, 2005, 12:44 PM

do you have a set of headphones?

J-man · April 25th, 2005, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by popthree

do you have a set of headphones?

More than I can count! :D

Anything else I might've forgotten?

Also I'm praying that it'll all come in next couple of days, I need to have recorded a few tracks on it by wednesday the 4th of May. :(

sparky · April 25th, 2005, 04:31 PM

As you won't have much time to waste when your gear arrives, make sure you're well stocked with strings, fresh batteries, plectrums, notepad and pens, blank CDs, coffee or other refreshments, all your minor but essential items.
Aslo, if you're recording to hard disc, make sure you have plenty of disc space available, and defrag the disc.

J-man · April 26th, 2005, 03:42 PM

They said that they didn't have the mic I ordered instock, but that they'd replace the order for a Shure SM58 (sadly at extra cost) but that they'd give me next day delievery for the original charge of 2-4 day delivery.

Pointless to tell you really.. lol

popthree · April 26th, 2005, 06:13 PM

I've owned a coupole of beyer mic's and they're not bad, but you'll be happier in the long run with shure. sm57, sm58 pretty much industry standard.

raisindot · April 27th, 2005, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by J-man

Ok, thanks for all the help with the bare essentials for recording thread, hopefully it's all sorted now, I have all the stuff I should hopefully need on order!

Please tell me I haven't missed anything!

Are you recording into a PC? If so, what's your audio interface and what software are/will you be using?

I had the Behringer mixer for awhile--very nice little mixer. Got it primarily because I needed phantom power for my condenser mike. Sold it when I upgraded my audio interface to an Emu 1820, which has a preamp and phantom power built in it.

Jeff in Boston

J-man · April 27th, 2005, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by raisindot

Quote:

Originally Posted by J-man

Ok, thanks for all the help with the bare essentials for recording thread, hopefully it's all sorted now, I have all the stuff I should hopefully need on order!

Please tell me I haven't missed anything!

Are you recording into a PC? If so, what's your audio interface and what software are/will you be using?

I had the Behringer mixer for awhile--very nice little mixer. Got it primarily because I needed phantom power for my condenser mike. Sold it when I upgraded my audio interface to an Emu 1820, which has a preamp and phantom power built in it.

Jeff in Boston

I'm using a stereo out lead into my soundcard's mic socket, and I'm using the free version of pro tools as my software.

J-man · April 27th, 2005, 11:55 AM

Well it's all come! I haven't tried recording with it yet but so far so good!

Ben Harmless · April 27th, 2005, 12:00 PM

Good luck man, you've got pretty much the same setup as I do now, 'cept I'm using a Sure Beta 57a, and cakewalk software.

Now the trick is to capture the sounds that your ears hear. Do multiple takes, doubletrack, and pan things around in the stereo field. You'll have a blast.

Also, I don't know if Pro Tools comes with a guitar amp sim plugin, but you might want to try that too for basic purposes and silent recording. I'm having good luck with the Cakewalk one. Believable, maybe not, but workable for demo purposes.

J-man · April 27th, 2005, 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ben Harmless

Good luck man, you've got pretty much the same setup as I do now, 'cept I'm using a Sure Beta 57a, and cakewalk software.

Now the trick is to capture the sounds that your ears hear. Do multiple takes, doubletrack, and pan things around in the stereo field. You'll have a blast.

Also, I don't know if Pro Tools comes with a guitar amp sim plugin, but you might want to try that too for basic purposes and silent recording. I'm having good luck with the Cakewalk one. Believable, maybe not, but workable for demo purposes.

Yeah I've been trying to get pro tools to work for about 20 minutes now silent, when I think I've figured something out it crashes my computer, so I'm going to try using some different software. :?

How can I listen to what I'm recording through the computer while i record it? Lol sorry for all the questions.

Ben Harmless · April 27th, 2005, 03:59 PM

The feature you're looking for is called real-time "input monitoring." With your SoundBlaster, as with mine, you're not going to get very good results if you're using any effects. You can choose to have your sound card simply amplify the input signal by clicking on the sound icon in the system tray, and unmuting the line-in input. If you want to add effects, you won't be able to hear them real time. You'll wind up with about a half-second delay between playing and hearing the result. It's very disorienting.

As for other software, Google "Audacity." It's a good free package. I like my Cakewalk Sonar, but it's expensive. There's plenty of others out there too. Honestly though, the nicer packages like Sonar and ProTools really need a better sound card to do the processing that they are capable of. Mine crashed on a regular basis when I add too many effects.

J-man · April 27th, 2005, 04:03 PM

Thanks Ben! I'm actually using Audacity right now, I gave up on ProTools, I've got the hang of most of it, but I'm still nit-picking. I gues I can put up with not being able to listen to what I'm playing...

But one thing I think I must be able to do is record a guitar part, and then record another over it while listening to the first one, I can multi lyer guitar tracks right now but I can't listen to my backing track while I record a lead part over it, which is infuriating!

popthree · April 27th, 2005, 04:09 PM

http://www.tdpri.com/viewtopic.php?t=33667&highlight=

J-man · April 27th, 2005, 04:18 PM

Opps thanks! :)

April 25th, 2005, 12:11 PM	#1 (permalink)
J-man Moderator Poster Extraordinaire Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: North Wales/Scarborough Age: 19 Posts: 6,031 9 Photos	Home recording UPDATE Ok, thanks for all the help with the bare essentials for recording thread, hopefully it's all sorted now, I have all the stuff I should hopefully need on order! Beyer TG-X 58 mic Behringer UB802 And a stereo patch, + 3 pin XLR cable. Please tell me I haven't missed anything! __________________ Write a wise saying and your name will live forever. - Unknown When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. - Hunter S Thompson

April 25th, 2005, 12:44 PM	#2 (permalink)
popthree Friend of Leo's Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Tulsa Posts: 2,529 44 Photos	do you have a set of headphones? __________________ sent from my computer thingy (i don't have an iPhone)

April 26th, 2005, 03:42 PM	#5 (permalink)
J-man Moderator Poster Extraordinaire Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: North Wales/Scarborough Age: 19 Posts: 6,031 9 Photos	They said that they didn't have the mic I ordered instock, but that they'd replace the order for a Shure SM58 (sadly at extra cost) but that they'd give me next day delievery for the original charge of 2-4 day delivery. Pointless to tell you really.. lol __________________ Write a wise saying and your name will live forever. - Unknown When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. - Hunter S Thompson

April 26th, 2005, 06:13 PM	#6 (permalink)
popthree Friend of Leo's Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Tulsa Posts: 2,529 44 Photos	I've owned a coupole of beyer mic's and they're not bad, but you'll be happier in the long run with shure. sm57, sm58 pretty much industry standard. __________________ sent from my computer thingy (i don't have an iPhone)

April 27th, 2005, 11:55 AM	#9 (permalink)
J-man Moderator Poster Extraordinaire Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: North Wales/Scarborough Age: 19 Posts: 6,031 9 Photos	Well it's all come! I haven't tried recording with it yet but so far so good! __________________ Write a wise saying and your name will live forever. - Unknown When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. - Hunter S Thompson

April 25th, 2005, 04:31 PM	#4 (permalink)
sparky Tele-Meister Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: UK Posts: 480	As you won't have much time to waste when your gear arrives, make sure you're well stocked with strings, fresh batteries, plectrums, notepad and pens, blank CDs, coffee or other refreshments, all your minor but essential items. Aslo, if you're recording to hard disc, make sure you have plenty of disc space available, and defrag the disc.

April 27th, 2005, 12:00 PM	#10 (permalink)
Ben Harmless Friend of Leo's Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Albany, NY US of A Posts: 2,954 5 Photos	Good luck man, you've got pretty much the same setup as I do now, 'cept I'm using a Sure Beta 57a, and cakewalk software. Now the trick is to capture the sounds that your ears hear. Do multiple takes, doubletrack, and pan things around in the stereo field. You'll have a blast. Also, I don't know if Pro Tools comes with a guitar amp sim plugin, but you might want to try that too for basic purposes and silent recording. I'm having good luck with the Cakewalk one. Believable, maybe not, but workable for demo purposes. __________________ "I think I'll go for the life of sin, followed by the last-minute, presto-change-o, deathbed repentance." - B. Simpson

April 27th, 2005, 03:59 PM	#12 (permalink)
Ben Harmless Friend of Leo's Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Albany, NY US of A Posts: 2,954 5 Photos	The feature you're looking for is called real-time "input monitoring." With your SoundBlaster, as with mine, you're not going to get very good results if you're using any effects. You can choose to have your sound card simply amplify the input signal by clicking on the sound icon in the system tray, and unmuting the line-in input. If you want to add effects, you won't be able to hear them real time. You'll wind up with about a half-second delay between playing and hearing the result. It's very disorienting. As for other software, Google "Audacity." It's a good free package. I like my Cakewalk Sonar, but it's expensive. There's plenty of others out there too. Honestly though, the nicer packages like Sonar and ProTools really need a better sound card to do the processing that they are capable of. Mine crashed on a regular basis when I add too many effects. __________________ "I think I'll go for the life of sin, followed by the last-minute, presto-change-o, deathbed repentance." - B. Simpson

April 27th, 2005, 04:03 PM	#13 (permalink)
J-man Moderator Poster Extraordinaire Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: North Wales/Scarborough Age: 19 Posts: 6,031 9 Photos	Thanks Ben! I'm actually using Audacity right now, I gave up on ProTools, I've got the hang of most of it, but I'm still nit-picking. I gues I can put up with not being able to listen to what I'm playing... But one thing I think I must be able to do is record a guitar part, and then record another over it while listening to the first one, I can multi lyer guitar tracks right now but I can't listen to my backing track while I record a lead part over it, which is infuriating! __________________ Write a wise saying and your name will live forever. - Unknown When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. - Hunter S Thompson

April 27th, 2005, 04:09 PM	#14 (permalink)
popthree Friend of Leo's Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Tulsa Posts: 2,529 44 Photos	http://www.tdpri.com/viewtopic.php?t=33667&highlight= __________________ sent from my computer thingy (i don't have an iPhone)

April 27th, 2005, 04:18 PM	#15 (permalink)
J-man Moderator Poster Extraordinaire Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: North Wales/Scarborough Age: 19 Posts: 6,031 9 Photos	Opps thanks! :) __________________ Write a wise saying and your name will live forever. - Unknown When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. - Hunter S Thompson