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Old March 5th, 2012, 08:16 PM   #41 (permalink)
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I love my Copenhagen and have been chewin since the age of 15.
I love the stuff and even dream about Cope so fresh it burns a hole in my cheek-LOL

Go to the Dentist every 6 months and have only had one filling in my entire life.
He says "you are the most boring patient I have" and spend the least money too.
The Copenhagen has been cheap insurance for me and I hope I'm buried with a can in my back pocket. I Started way back in Junior High because I played too many sports to be a smoker and didn't like compromising my Lungs.

I almost quit once when my wife grabbed a bottle of 3 day old chew spit out of the center console of my truck when I picked her up at the airport. It was ghastly....I had to pull over for her to puke twice. I almost puked myself. One time this new singer was auditioning for my band and he gabbed the beer bottle off the top of my amp to take a swigg and he didn't know I had been spatting C-Hagen into that all night. He turned purple at first, then ran to the bathroom and heaved. We all got a good laugh out of that - taught him better than to grab a guy's beer like that again.

Last year my own brother accidentally grabbed a coffee cup of mine and did the same thing.
That's the biggest hazard of the stuff - unwitting spectators, turned victim.
OMG! memories of similar stuff.

I remember when I lived in a flat in London and this substandard hovel in Bayswater had a bathroom quite a bit away from the living space. We only wanted to use the WC if we had to do #2 but for pee, well that's what containers are for, right?

Well we liked to drink beer and over there the glasses were these plain imperial pints which were a lot like the pee containers we used. Being new to beer, especially the heavier set the English beer, I never know what I was drinking especially since it was all room temperature. You could only imagine.

Being single guys, we didn't care about being all that neat and tidy so the pee jars would sit there and ferment along with the half finished imperial pints of whatever beer was there that night or any night. I am sure this was covered in some English sitcom about single guys living in the big city. Well, it all started to smell the same at first but what was scary is that after a few days there was no smell.

I don't know if this situation created a disease of unknown origin or conjured up some microbiological cure for cancer.

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Old March 5th, 2012, 08:55 PM   #42 (permalink)
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+1 to getbent. Guitarpreston comes here, admits he's got a problem, asks for advice. Group of try-hards jump on him because that helps. Unless you've been on something like it don't even talk.

I started copenhagen at 19 because it's part of the culture with hard, out-door work. Believe it or not, at first, it helps get you through those 14-16 hour days in crappy weather. Go do some hard, up-to 20 hour days for a couple weeks. You begin to think you need something to get through, and, unlike smokers, you don't have to stop what you're doing for it. Sorry but the attitude the OP received torqued me off; that crap never helps.

Guitarpreston, keep trying brother. I haven't conquered it yet, but you sound ready for the change. Get off it and stay off. BTW, spent my summer in East Texas oilfields around Kilgore. Loved the people.
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Old March 5th, 2012, 10:45 PM   #43 (permalink)
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Google "jaw cancer chewing tobacco" and click on images.

If my negativity saves one guy's life then it's been worth it. Not many people get over their addictions by pats on the back and, "maybe next time" advice.

That crap'll kill ya in the most gruesome way.
Most folks are looking for a little compassion and understanding and encouragement and benefit more from that than 'wowee' etc.....

nice try on the sanctimony... it was an amusing attempt after just being wrong.

guys who have been around tobacco know about the cancer it brings.... just like meth addicts have seen what it does... we don't need to 'google it' we live in a world where we see it... and know it...
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Old March 5th, 2012, 11:00 PM   #44 (permalink)
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Most folks are looking for a little compassion and understanding and encouragement and benefit more from that than 'wowee' etc.....

nice try on the sanctimony... it was an amusing attempt after just being wrong.

guys who have been around tobacco know about the cancer it brings.... just like meth addicts have seen what it does... we don't need to 'google it' we live in a world where we see it... and know it...
Exactly. We know it's gross, we know it's bad for you. Addiction doesn't mean you're blind to what the substance/act does, in fact, it makes you feel worse... and feeling like crap about yourself isn't conducive to quitting.

I just dumped out the remainder of my tin. Tomorrow will suck, but each day will suck less, for me, and for you, guitarpreston. It DOES get easier, and you find you'll think about it less and less, but don't let up!
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Old March 5th, 2012, 11:05 PM   #45 (permalink)
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I love my Copenhagen and have been chewin since the age of 15.
I love the stuff and even dream about Cope so fresh it burns a hole in my cheek-LOL

Go to the Dentist every 6 months and have only had one filling in my entire life.
He says "you are the most boring patient I have" and spend the least money too.
The Copenhagen has been cheap insurance for me and I hope I'm buried with a can in my back pocket. I Started way back in Junior High because I played too many sports to be a smoker and didn't like compromising my Lungs.

I almost quit once when my wife grabbed a bottle of 3 day old chew spit out of the center console of my truck when I picked her up at the airport. It was ghastly....I had to pull over for her to puke twice. I almost puked myself. One time this new singer was auditioning for my band and he gabbed the beer bottle off the top of my amp to take a swigg and he didn't know I had been spatting C-Hagen into that all night. He turned purple at first, then ran to the bathroom and heaved. We all got a good laugh out of that - taught him better than to grab a guy's beer like that again.

Last year my own brother accidently grabbed a coffee cup of mine and did the same thing.
That's the biggest hazard of the stuff - unwitting spectators, turned victim.
That's some gross crap, and a disgusting habit. Why would you brag on something like this?
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Old March 5th, 2012, 11:13 PM   #46 (permalink)
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I'm currently working on quitting smoking. I've been planning on quitting for a few years now. If I'm going to be around my family or friends with children, I won't smoke. I've gone for a few days with no cravings or anything so I honestly believe that for me, it's psychological. However, I enjoy the ambiance of "OH FRIGGIN' YEAH...." as soon as I light up on my drive home. I'm 32 and I have noticed lately that I get winded very quickly. I'm starting off my mornings with the couch to 10k app because after I excercise the thought of it makes me sick. Best of Luck, man. Keep us informed.
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Old March 5th, 2012, 11:49 PM   #47 (permalink)
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That's some gross crap, and a disgusting habit. Why would you brag on something like this?
I thought the same thing, too and was shocked. But after reading the post three times, I know he was trying to add some humor to this otherwise serious and sometimes depressing topic and when I realized that I too got gross. And I do liken chewing and spitting in any receptacle about as gross as peeing in them.

Seriously though...it's going to take the OP humor, will power, planning, guts, determination, and hopefully some help from us who have been trying to quit overeating, drinking, smoking, etc. Trust me it takes many different approaches and sometimes failing before one can claim victory. I wish the OP the best!
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Old March 6th, 2012, 12:02 AM   #48 (permalink)
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Dippin?!?!? Im tryin to and it's driving me nuts. Any helpful hints? I'm chewing gum and eating seeds like mad
Chewing gum and eating seeds would not make me quit dippin it in my wife
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Addictions are hard to beat. I dont have any specific suggestions for the OP re quitting dip, but I can say from personal experience that, while addictive substances (or, if you prefer, the mind's reactions to them) are very powerful, so too is human will.

Use whatever technique, tactic or strategy you find will work best for you, but whatever you do, use the power of your own mind, your free will, to convince yourself that you CAN quit, and couple that with your inner strength and determination. The human mind is an incredibly powerful organ, and just as it is part of the addiction, so too it can be part of the solution. Focus your mind, heart, and intention and you can WILL yourself into behaviors.

Yeah, there are all kinds of fancier theories and ways to say this, and probably a lot of psychological jargon as well (rational emotive behavioral therapy or cognitive behavioral therapy or whatever), but it is really a simple thing (in concept, that is . . . hard to do in practice, because it takes real effort).

It's trite to say "put your mind to it and you can do anything" but it is not so far from the truth. The trick is in really "putting your mind to it." That takes strength, dedication, perseverance, which is (as I see it) harder and harder to find anymore in this me-me-me world of instant gratification and no effort.

So good luck. Try to find what works for you, and keep at it, and before you know it, you may just succeed. But keep trying, and keep focused on your goal, and you'll get there.
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No judgement here. It's tough what you're going thru. I quit smoking so, I know it's not the same, but the thing is you know what you need to know and why you should quit so that's not the issue.

It sounds weird, but in my case, it was a brain issue, on one hand i knew all the reasons too, but there is another part of the brain processes feelings of reward and when you dip, it releases a reward-like effect because your body wants more nicotine. In a sense, your brain is tricking you into keeping on doing what you know you don't want to do anymore.

For me, Chantix worked because it blocked the reward section of the brain, as it relates to nicotine anyway, and then it's much much easier to quit.

It's all about changing the routine, so if your willpower alone is strong enough, great. But if not, don't beat yourself up, there should be some products available that can help. Try to stay around people that will support you thru this, it's tough but it can be done. Hope this helps.
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nice try on the sanctimony... it was an amusing attempt after just being wrong.
Nothing sanctimonious about telling addicts they are ruining their lives.
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I started once, then the novelty of it wore off (pretty fast actually) and I said WTF am I doing this for? So I quit. Haven't thought about it since.
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Nicotine lozenges. I'm using them right now to try to quit cigarettes. I can't say that I'll succeed (I've failed before), but I'm trying and the lozenges are helping. Good luck!
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Old March 6th, 2012, 12:54 AM   #55 (permalink)
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the approach I used to give up smoking and drinking...

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Nicotine lozenges. I'm using them right now to try to quit cigarettes. I can't say that I'll succeed (I've failed before), but I'm trying and the lozenges are helping. Good luck!
Those things work really well. Start with the 4mg ones, then go to the 2mg ... then after a wekk or two, snap the 2mg ones in half.

And always ... avoid your smoker friends when you finish your last lozenge.

These things worked for me. But as with all addiction - keep thinking about how you'll plan to spend those extra 20 years. And be able to taste food again. And not stink of smoke.

And be aerobically fit again.
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Geez Guys!!!! You put that crap in YOUR MOUTH?

You must smell like a turd with cr@p rubbed on it. What does the little lady think of the smell when you try a little smoochin'

Hell I was a 100 a day smoker and gave up 10 seconds after a Heart Specialist told me to make sure I had my will in place ........... that week! Now I thank him every day, and that was about 30 years ag. Watching your Father die of lung cancer changes your attitude and my Dad gave it up 40 years before it got him.

Geez fellas I thought you were civilised over there.

Sorry for the rant but it's not as if you don't know what's going to happen, or is that the other guy? Yeah Right!!!
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Its a choppped up tobacco product in a can. Sometimes called, "snuff". Grab a pinch, put it between your cheek/lip and gums. Just make sure you spit "the juice" out, or you gonna turn green!

Then there is chaw, or chew tobacco, which is leaf type (think Beachnut). You grab a wad, shove it your mouth. You can "gnaw" on it a lil bit, but mostle just park it between check and gum. Again, spit the "juice" out or dizzy/upset tummy with green gills comin your way.

Then you have pressed tobacco, or "plugs". You chew off a chunk, and work it with your teeth, then position it between cheek/gum.

Yeah, I tried em all. I don't like chew's of any variety.

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I smoked as a younger man, then quit for many years, only to be at a gig, had a drink than grabbed a cig and was full-blown smoking again the next day. I went to a hypnotist back in '89 and never smoked again. However, I was working at a sleep lab in Portland where a friend there was dipping and I gave it a try. What a bung-hole, as I was dippin' my ass off for about 2 years, when I decided(like getbent) this can't be good for my mouth, so I figured- hey, nicotine gum = same delivery method as my beloved Cope! That was about 6 years ago. I have a 4mg piece of Nicorette in my mouth right now. Hell, I ain't addicted, I just like to chew gum that costs around $50 for a pack of 100 pieces!
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