Got shafted on eBay - transaction cancelled

[logan2z]

Originally Posted by Bones

I could send you a photo right now of a damaged korean sheraton that I don't even own.

Sure, there are any number of ways to deceive. But the seller didn't even have the brains to do do that much

[cap217]

eBay is a legal binding contract. Now there is a HUGE grey area so nothing usually happens. But there have been cases where buyers can sew for losses and all of that.

In this case, the buyer is in the right. He bid, he won, he wanted to pay. The seller SHOULD NOT be able to just back out. Sure, maybe something happened and if it did then I understand. But it probably didnt and the seller just backed out.

Now for the eBay rules. If you agreed to cancel the transaction then you shouldnt be able to leave any sort of feedback bc nothing happened. If you DID NOT agree, then you can file a claim and the seller gets a strike and you can leave neg feedback.

I find if 100% OK to leave neg feedback for this seller if this is the case. You want to warn other buyers of the same thing in the future. Especially if the seller has 2 neg feedbacks and only 20 feedbacks total. This is why there is a feedback system.

[Arbiter]

It's happened to me. Word for word, actually, might well be the same guy.

I'm OK with the negative feedback, eBay transactions are a contract and the seller broke it. I would not have agreed to the cancellation, but that's a minor issue.

[caferacer]

negative feedback was warranted in this instance
and the seller got what he deserved, good riddance to bad rubbish

[Tred]

LOL A friend recntly bought a $35,000 car of Ebay... It was not a smooth transaction. Same crap, no one came close to the $38,000 the guy wanted, so the SELLER pulled the deal. My buddy had another friend who lived close to the car's location, swing by and check out the car. My buddy was able to (phone) him and get him to let go of the car, for the origianl $35,000.00 bid, including ALL shipping costs from the midwest to the upper northwest. The car should arrive sometime next week.

I won't buy anything of real value off E-Bay, anymore! Maybe a 60-100 dollars TOPS!


All I can say is.. Beep beep!

[jwsamuel]

Originally Posted by Big_Bend

As an Ebay seller - the OP is the type of buyer I despise. Go retract that negative feedback, it was NOT deserved, you didn't lose a thing, you did not get "shafted". Grow up.

Actually, a seller who cancels a sale because he or she does not like the amount of the winning bid does deserve negative feedback. I am both a buyer and seller on feedback and part of the deal for eBay is that you sell to teh highest bidder.

It is sellers like that who drive people like the OP away from eBay and make it more difficult for the rest of us.

Jim

[dutchgoff]

Why not just give feedback as SALE CANCELED and let everyone else speculate as to why it was?

[flyingbanana]

Originally Posted by logan2z

he had nothing but positives since then. Well, I fixed that I think I'll stick to local CL sales and the TDPRI classifieds from now on.

A whole lot of bs for a whole lot of nothing. It's not like a seller shipped an item and didn't get paid, or a buyer who paid for something he didn't get.

Get over it already, and take back the neg rating. You obviously did it in spite. Bad buyer...no donut.

[logan2z]

Originally Posted by dutchgoff

Why not just give feedback as SALE CANCELED and let everyone else speculate as to why it was?

My feedback read 'I won the seller's auction and then he sent a request to eBay to cancel the sale'. No other info was provided.

[logan2z]

Originally Posted by flyingbanana

Get over it already, and take back the neg rating. You obviously did it in spite. Bad buyer...no donut.

Despite the flippant remark in my original post, I did not provide the feedback out of spite. I felt it was deserved in light of the seller canceling the transaction with no real justification, and felt other potential buyers should be warned. Again, all the seller has to do is offer some proof that his explanation is valid and I will retract. He hasn't so I have to assume my feedback is justified.

[caferacer]

I for one appreciate the the buyer leaving negative feedback as long as it is the truth
I do not want to have to deal with an A-hole seller and I doubt anyone here does either
if you want a minimum price put a reserve, if you list it no reserve take what you get and shut ___ ____ up

[EJG1]

Seems to me that the OP was justified.

But I have never used eBay, so what do I know?

[flathd]

The seller should have spent the $2.00 and put a reserve on the guitar if he was worried about a lower than expected sale. Otherwise, he has no excuse to back out of the sale and lie about what happened to the guitar. I have sold a few items for less than I expected, but I have also sold some things for more than I expected. If I can't risk the lower sale, I will put a reserve on the item or have a higher starting price. If the seller has 3 negatives in 20 feedbacks, he should probably look for a new hobby, because he sure isn't much of a business person.

[Mike Eskimo]

From here on out,


I think everyone who comments on an "Ebay Transaction" thread should state right up front whether they've ever used Ebay before.


And if they have, and they have basically 7 purchases (period) then state that as well.


Then I'll know which comments not to read.


Too many whittlers "harrumphing" around the stove at the general store...

[BobbyZ]

I'm with Logon on this the guy should have taken the high bid. It is an auction !
Like I said at a real auction you take what you get with no reserve.
And you pay for what you buy. Like it or not.
Try to back out of a deal and you'll find yourself as the guest of honor at an old fashion lynching.

Edit

All comments live from the General Store.

[Brother Rob]

Originally Posted by Bones

You paid nothing and you got nothing, why the bad feedback?

Nailed in the very first response.

Another vote for "Not Shafted"

[flathd]

Originally Posted by Mike Eskimo

From here on out,


I think everyone who comments on an "Ebay Transaction" thread should state right up front whether they've ever used Ebay before.


And if they have, and they have basically 7 purchases (period) then state that as well.


Then I'll know which comments not to read.


Too many whittlers "harrumphing" around the stove at the general store...

I have 397 feedbacks, 100% positive. What does that have to do with the seller backing out of the sale? BTW how many feedbacks did you start out with? 0, I'll bet. Just like all the other newbies did.

[cap217]

Originally Posted by dutchgoff

Why not just give feedback as SALE CANCELED and let everyone else speculate as to why it was?

Why? This is why we have a feedback system. So the next buyer knows what he is getting into. If someone has 21 feedback and 10 negative, then I know something is up. But if everyone did what you say, I would never know!


Also, about the car purchase. Car sales on ebay ARE NOT binding contracts like items are. I had a huge issue once with a guitar sale on ebay and I had a lawyer to take care of everything. But a lot of cases where ebay contract/bidding was not legally enforced were w cars.

[McGlamRock]

+1 to sounds like the seller found a better local deal... IMO that negative feedback on his ebay account is the price he pays for cancelling a transaction to get that better price.

[cap217]

Originally Posted by Mike Eskimo

From here on out,


I think everyone who comments on an "Ebay Transaction" thread should state right up front whether they've ever used Ebay before.


And if they have, and they have basically 7 purchases (period) then state that as well.


Then I'll know which comments not to read.


Too many whittlers "harrumphing" around the stove at the general store...

I used ebay a lot. Over 300 feedbacks and probably 500+ transactions as a buyer and seller. Usually expensive items. I also use paypal and know how the system works. What I am stating is from experience.