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Old February 22nd, 2012, 02:10 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Ever hear an out of tune guitar...

and it sound absolutely perfect?

Exhibit A:



Got any favorite songs featuring less than stellar intonation or tuning?

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Old February 22nd, 2012, 02:20 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I have an entire album! Animal Collectives "Feels":


All the instruments on the album were tuned to an out of tune piano (full story is on the wiki I think). Question is, is it still out of tune if all the instruments are out of tune by approximately the same amount?
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Old February 22nd, 2012, 02:29 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Bowie`s `Width of a circle` and `Diamond dogs`
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Old February 22nd, 2012, 02:32 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Both of you present very valid examples of perfectly out of tune instruments. Kudos!
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Old February 22nd, 2012, 02:42 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Hendrix at times. That guy could never sound bad. I also enjoy Eddie Van Halen and some live stuff he does may sound like noise to some, but he makes it an art form.
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Paul McCartney's bass on hey bull dog.
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Old February 22nd, 2012, 03:17 AM   #7 (permalink)
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EVERYTHING by the band Pavement is out of tune perfectly...

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Old February 22nd, 2012, 03:22 AM   #8 (permalink)
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^ Another solid example.
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Old February 22nd, 2012, 03:34 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Pretty much any Lightnin' Hopkins record or performance.
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Old February 22nd, 2012, 04:13 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Chuck Berry rarely played intune same with The Stones live.

if you wanna play Chuck Berry and your guitar is in perfect tune it just doesnt sound right.

Most of Neil Youngs electric leads are out but for some strange reason it just sounds right when he does it.
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Old February 22nd, 2012, 04:33 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Out of tune-ness tortures me.
I have to get away from it or turn it off.
Someone, the artist or engineer/producer must be asleep
at the switch.
Unforgivable.
The horns at the end of Percy Sledge's "When A Man Loves A Woman"
are horribly out of tune.
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Old February 22nd, 2012, 04:46 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Unless your playing along with instruments that can't be tuned on spot fairly quickly, and as long as the band is in tune together, I don't think most people really notice unless it's DRASTIC. I've seen bands that tune specifically to their vocalist's natural range (most times an "in between" tuning), and it works fine.
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I can't think of examples right now, but I've heard a few songs where the instruments are tuned to each other, but when I play along it's noticeably out of tune.
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Just about the entire discography of Hound Dog Taylor...

Especially in folk music like Appalachian old-time or Irish trad, I find that instruments that are too in tune sound odd. I heard a classical violin player try to play Irish trad once and it just didn't sound right, even though the notes were all correct.
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Out of tune-ness tortures me. I have to get away from it or turn it off. Someone, the artist or engineer/producer must be asleep at the switch. Unforgivable. The horns at the end of Percy Sledge's "When A Man Loves A Woman" are horribly out of tune.
i forget the whole story but jerry wexler had rick hall redo the horns after he heard the master but the old master still accidentally ended up at the pressing plant much to wexler's chagrin...

too much great music where the out of tune-ness still gets trumped by a great performance to let it get to me... of course like everything within reason...

on some records i use my old duo-jet which won't intonate partly because i have a bigsby bridge on it but without the bigsby bridge the guitar does not sound the same and i choose to compromise there probably to some folks disdain... tj
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lee moses is a personal favorite... especially how much longer must i wait but i don't see it on youtube... many of lee moses' records are close to perfection for me... tj

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The guitar in the last scene of this brilliant film gives an added edge to the atmosphere. The music adds so much to the scene that it's impossible to imagine it any other way. I think they re-recorded the track for the soundtrack album with a guitar that was tuned more accurately and it wasn't quite as effective.

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I can't think of examples right now, but I've heard a few songs where the instruments are tuned to each other, but when I play along it's noticeably out of tune.
It used to annoy me to no end when I was learning the Allman Brothers' "Ramblin' Man." I'd have to re-tune every time I worked on it. Of course, back then, we didn't have computers with software where we could adjust the pitch!
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Most of Neil Youngs electric leads are out but for some strange reason it just sounds right when he does it.
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The b string is tuned down a little on this song.

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