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AM866 · February 22nd, 2012, 01:10 AM

and it sound absolutely perfect?

Exhibit A:

Got any favorite songs featuring less than stellar intonation or tuning?

Twangasaurus · February 22nd, 2012, 01:20 AM

I have an entire album! Animal Collectives "Feels":

All the instruments on the album were tuned to an out of tune piano (full story is on the wiki I think). Question is, is it still out of tune if all the instruments are out of tune by approximately the same amount?

MonkeyKing · February 22nd, 2012, 01:29 AM

Bowie`s `Width of a circle` and `Diamond dogs`

scantron81 · February 22nd, 2012, 01:32 AM

Both of you present very valid examples of perfectly out of tune instruments. Kudos!

63dot · February 22nd, 2012, 01:42 AM

Hendrix at times. That guy could never sound bad. I also enjoy Eddie Van Halen and some live stuff he does may sound like noise to some, but he makes it an art form.

andrenighthound · February 22nd, 2012, 01:49 AM

Paul McCartney's bass on hey bull dog.

The Quasar-Kid · February 22nd, 2012, 02:17 AM

EVERYTHING by the band Pavement is out of tune perfectly...

scantron81 · February 22nd, 2012, 02:22 AM

^ Another solid example.

ScatMan · February 22nd, 2012, 02:34 AM

Pretty much any Lightnin' Hopkins record or performance.

Mark Davis · February 22nd, 2012, 03:13 AM

Chuck Berry rarely played intune same with The Stones live.

if you wanna play Chuck Berry and your guitar is in perfect tune it just doesnt sound right.

Most of Neil Youngs electric leads are out but for some strange reason it just sounds right when he does it.

brookdalebill · February 22nd, 2012, 03:33 AM

Out of tune-ness tortures me.
I have to get away from it or turn it off.
Someone, the artist or engineer/producer must be asleep
at the switch.
Unforgivable.
The horns at the end of Percy Sledge's "When A Man Loves A Woman"
are horribly out of tune.

catclaws · February 22nd, 2012, 03:46 AM

Unless your playing along with instruments that can't be tuned on spot fairly quickly, and as long as the band is in tune together, I don't think most people really notice unless it's DRASTIC. I've seen bands that tune specifically to their vocalist's natural range (most times an "in between" tuning), and it works fine.

J-man · February 22nd, 2012, 04:28 AM

I can't think of examples right now, but I've heard a few songs where the instruments are tuned to each other, but when I play along it's noticeably out of tune.

BloozeGit · February 22nd, 2012, 04:52 AM

Just about the entire discography of Hound Dog Taylor...

Especially in folk music like Appalachian old-time or Irish trad, I find that instruments that are too in tune sound odd. I heard a classical violin player try to play Irish trad once and it just didn't sound right, even though the notes were all correct.

olewichita · February 22nd, 2012, 05:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brookdalebill

Out of tune-ness tortures me. I have to get away from it or turn it off. Someone, the artist or engineer/producer must be asleep at the switch. Unforgivable. The horns at the end of Percy Sledge's "When A Man Loves A Woman" are horribly out of tune.

i forget the whole story but jerry wexler had rick hall redo the horns after he heard the master but the old master still accidentally ended up at the pressing plant much to wexler's chagrin...

too much great music where the out of tune-ness still gets trumped by a great performance to let it get to me... of course like everything within reason...

on some records i use my old duo-jet which won't intonate partly because i have a bigsby bridge on it but without the bigsby bridge the guitar does not sound the same and i choose to compromise there probably to some folks disdain... tj

olewichita · February 22nd, 2012, 05:12 AM

lee moses is a personal favorite... especially how much longer must i wait but i don't see it on youtube... many of lee moses' records are close to perfection for me... tj

czgibson · February 22nd, 2012, 05:19 AM

The guitar in the last scene of this brilliant film gives an added edge to the atmosphere. The music adds so much to the scene that it's impossible to imagine it any other way. I think they re-recorded the track for the soundtrack album with a guitar that was tuned more accurately and it wasn't quite as effective.

Fendrcaster · February 22nd, 2012, 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J-man

I can't think of examples right now, but I've heard a few songs where the instruments are tuned to each other, but when I play along it's noticeably out of tune.

It used to annoy me to no end when I was learning the Allman Brothers' "Ramblin' Man." I'd have to re-tune every time I worked on it. Of course, back then, we didn't have computers with software where we could adjust the pitch!

Boundforglory07 · February 22nd, 2012, 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Davis

Most of Neil Youngs electric leads are out but for some strange reason it just sounds right when he does it.

Bigsby Bigsby and more Bigsby

emu! · February 22nd, 2012, 10:22 AM

The b string is tuned down a little on this song.

February 22nd, 2012, 01:10 AM	#1 (permalink)
AM866 Tele-Meister Join Date: May 2010 Location: Triad, NC Posts: 334	Ever hear an out of tune guitar... and it sound absolutely perfect? Exhibit A: Got any favorite songs featuring less than stellar intonation or tuning? __________________ I'll miss the system here, the bottom's low and the treble's clear but it don't pay to think too much on things you leave behind

February 22nd, 2012, 01:32 AM	#4 (permalink)
scantron81 Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Athens, Georgia Posts: 1,642	Both of you present very valid examples of perfectly out of tune instruments. Kudos! __________________ Dear country music "artists," If all your songs are about how "country" you are, you aint country at all.

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andrenighthound Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Bronx NY Age: 37 Posts: 1,093	Paul McCartney's bass on hey bull dog. __________________ "Blues in a doggy bag, is what I got to eat!" www.rosieledet.net www.myspace.com/andrenighthounds

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The Quasar-Kid Tele-Meister Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Seattle Posts: 276	EVERYTHING by the band Pavement is out of tune perfectly... __________________ Rod Palmer of Captain Beyond:"We always kind of thought our songs were mediocre at best, unfortunately that was not an uncommon opinion.."

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scantron81 Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Athens, Georgia Posts: 1,642	^ Another solid example. __________________ Dear country music "artists," If all your songs are about how "country" you are, you aint country at all.

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February 22nd, 2012, 01:20 AM	#2 (permalink)
Twangasaurus Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Perth Age: 22 Posts: 1,385	I have an entire album! Animal Collectives "Feels": All the instruments on the album were tuned to an out of tune piano (full story is on the wiki I think). Question is, is it still out of tune if all the instruments are out of tune by approximately the same amount?

February 22nd, 2012, 01:29 AM	#3 (permalink)
MonkeyKing Tele-Meister Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Detroit Posts: 423 2 Photos	Bowie`s `Width of a circle` and `Diamond dogs`

February 22nd, 2012, 01:42 AM	#5 (permalink)
63dot Friend of Leo's Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: USA, but more importantly, planet earth Posts: 2,932	Hendrix at times. That guy could never sound bad. I also enjoy Eddie Van Halen and some live stuff he does may sound like noise to some, but he makes it an art form.

February 22nd, 2012, 02:34 AM	#9 (permalink)
ScatMan Friend of Leo's Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: TexasLand Posts: 2,468	Pretty much any Lightnin' Hopkins record or performance.

February 22nd, 2012, 03:13 AM	#10 (permalink)
Mark Davis Telefied Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Bakersfield Ca. Age: 62 Posts: 31,287	Chuck Berry rarely played intune same with The Stones live. if you wanna play Chuck Berry and your guitar is in perfect tune it just doesnt sound right. Most of Neil Youngs electric leads are out but for some strange reason it just sounds right when he does it. __________________ I'm so blind my seeing eye dog needs glasses.

February 22nd, 2012, 03:33 AM	#11 (permalink)
brookdalebill Friend of Leo's Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Austin, Tx Age: 55 Posts: 4,406	Out of tune-ness tortures me. I have to get away from it or turn it off. Someone, the artist or engineer/producer must be asleep at the switch. Unforgivable. The horns at the end of Percy Sledge's "When A Man Loves A Woman" are horribly out of tune.

February 22nd, 2012, 03:46 AM	#12 (permalink)
catclaws TDPRI Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: WNC Posts: 41	Unless your playing along with instruments that can't be tuned on spot fairly quickly, and as long as the band is in tune together, I don't think most people really notice unless it's DRASTIC. I've seen bands that tune specifically to their vocalist's natural range (most times an "in between" tuning), and it works fine.

February 22nd, 2012, 04:28 AM	#13 (permalink)
J-man Super Moderator Doctor of Teleocity Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: North Wales Age: 24 Posts: 11,780 19 Photos	I can't think of examples right now, but I've heard a few songs where the instruments are tuned to each other, but when I play along it's noticeably out of tune. __________________ "Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man."

February 22nd, 2012, 04:52 AM	#14 (permalink)
BloozeGit Tele-Meister Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Singapore Posts: 243	Just about the entire discography of Hound Dog Taylor... Especially in folk music like Appalachian old-time or Irish trad, I find that instruments that are too in tune sound odd. I heard a classical violin player try to play Irish trad once and it just didn't sound right, even though the notes were all correct.

February 22nd, 2012, 05:12 AM	#16 (permalink)
olewichita Friend of Leo's Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: austin, tx Posts: 2,133	lee moses is a personal favorite... especially how much longer must i wait but i don't see it on youtube... many of lee moses' records are close to perfection for me... tj

February 22nd, 2012, 05:19 AM	#17 (permalink)
czgibson Tele-Meister Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: UK Posts: 347	The guitar in the last scene of this brilliant film gives an added edge to the atmosphere. The music adds so much to the scene that it's impossible to imagine it any other way. I think they re-recorded the track for the soundtrack album with a guitar that was tuned more accurately and it wasn't quite as effective.

February 22nd, 2012, 10:22 AM	#20 (permalink)
emu! Poster Extraordinaire Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: From here to obscurity Posts: 9,005	The b string is tuned down a little on this song.

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