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Hendrix Machine Gun.
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Neil Young is amazing in both his energy, note choice, and that he does it out of tune. His off kilter voice would not be the same had he had a perfect ear or smoother voice. When I first heard him, I thought he was the worst. It was after many years of over-produced pop in that era did I find out how great it was to hear something genuine in his band, Crazy Horse. Grunge cashed in on that sound but Neil had it first. Sometimes a purposely out of tune voice, almost talking at times and usually pulled sharp, like Dylan, late Sinatra, and current Sinatra wannabes is what works best. I once saw Branford Marsalis play with the tuning to great effect with his sax the way a great Sinatra type singer could work a band and he used it as just another color of dissonance. |
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"Bo Diddley on Before You Accuse Me, he's out of tune but who cares."
That was the first one that popped into my head too... I never understood how this one flew... Love Bo, but this is just horrible, to my ears anyway.
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I've never heard a live bluegrass band that wasn't a little off.
Banjos are notorious for "creeping" out of tune. But that Scruggs roll hides it well.
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For "so wrong it's right" guitar, it's hard to beat Bahamian national treasure Joseph Spence. He had a certain off-key tuning that he always used; it sounded right to him.
His scat / patois manner of singing is also something to behold. Lyrics? HA! The guitar is really at the far end of what my ear can stand, but the overall effect is just so endearing, it makes me smile |
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My papaw played a lot of bluegrass/Appalachia music and to quote him regarding being slightly out of tune, "leave it, it sounds like there's more of us".
I've always given a pass to the live performances prior to tuning pedals. I'm amazed more live performances weren't out of tune.
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Just about anything recorded by Hubert Sumlin. Listen to Howlin' Wolf.
Eric Clapton said he (Sumlin) was the only guitar player he saw who could go on stage so totally out of tune and yet make it work the whole.
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I love the out of tune guitarists and singers with the right mojo/vibe/whatever! I couldn't make out a word Joseph Spence was singing in the first song, but whatever it was, it added to the whole song. It was in a word, great.
I found this and Michael Buble, who often sings sharp but uses that to his advantage, explains it really well in this interview: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/m...big-mouth.html |
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I don't know who these guys are
but "Brilliant" is the only word I can come up with to explain what I just heard...
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Seems to me that if the song and performance are good then little things like quality of the recording and tuning and things that people obsess about go out the window.
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I was so shocked the first time I heard these guys. I didn't know if they sucked or if they were geniuses, or both. It was my first introduction to modern noise rock, or the first post-Crazy Horse noise rock attempt before the Seattle scene popularized it. It seems so weird that intentionally out of tune stuff could be a whole movement, but Sonic Youth were the first I knew of who tossed the guitar tuner out for effect. As for Neil Young, I don't know if he was out of tune for effect but probably sings that way. ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEQkeL-G47g http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xs9eh...eature=related |
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