Which is worse - eBay or Guitar Center?!?

Deaf Eddie · April 12th, 2005, 10:59 PM

Here's a fine "howd'ya'do?" I woke up to, today.
Check out this auction:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=7314230995

The eBayer here, whose handle is gcrep114 (Guitar Center Representative???) and whose e-mail is through guitarcenter.com lifted the text from my ENTIRE webpage to describe HIS guitar - including some photos of MY GUITARS! See my webpage:
http://www.deaf-eddie.net/silver.html

I sent him an e-mail asking him to REMOVE my text and pics from his listing, but then I said he could use a paragraph, but no more. Sheesh!

A quick edit to add: Ohmygawd, I just saw his asking price of $300!!! He's obviously using my flowery description and nostalgic raving in an attempt to con some rookie - that REALLY SUCKS! Yeah, I love those axes, but only if you get them at a realistic price - like, under a hundred bucks for the model he's selling for three times that. Wow.

Whaddaya think- shine it on, or try to cause a big stink?

photoweborama · April 12th, 2005, 11:48 PM

I think you can have ebay yank thier auciton. If you show them the link to your site, or a link to an auction they stole the information and photos from without permission.

DADGAD · April 13th, 2005, 12:34 AM

Tell him you are sending over a couple of big Sicilian friends wearing Hawaiian shirts to collect your percentage.

"Hey, it's strictly business." 8)

8)

Seriously, I bet you could make some money offering a sales writing service. If you're good enough to copy, you're good!

Your web site is protected by (C) and he broke the law. You should report him.

Gary

JMH65 · April 13th, 2005, 12:34 AM

I would tell him to send you an instant payment of $100 through Paypal for services rendered or you will report him to E-Bay. Sometimes you have to strongarm punks like that. I would be really ticked.

cowboytwang · April 13th, 2005, 01:48 AM

YES YES YES file a fraud report with ebay.

Guitar Center has run so many fraudulent auctions and every time someone finds one they should report it.
They should NOT be linking to your website for text and/or pictures without permission.

I just submitted a fraud report on ebay Item 7314230995

cowboytwang · April 13th, 2005, 06:33 AM

OK he updated the auction and gave credit to the website and apologized.

photoweborama · April 13th, 2005, 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cowboytwang

OK he updated the auction and gave credit to the website and apologized.

I don't think that is enough in this case. He still should have asked first. And if he is going to give credit, he still has to ask if he can keep the text and photos up.

It's like when my kids hit each other and say sorry.. The point is they still hit each other and saying sorry does not make it right. Otherwise, they get into a pattern that if they hit each other and say sorry, they can just keep doing that.

Steal content and photos and all you have to do is say sorry and you can keep using them.. No way!

But you did a very good think to report them Cowboytwang. That takes guts.

Deaf Eddie · April 13th, 2005, 11:42 AM

So now he "credits" me for my prose - BUT!
To me, that just makes me look like an accomplice in this - to me, THAT'S WORSE THAN JUST STEALING MY TEXT.

Thanks for filing the fraud report, Cowboytwang. I sent him another eBay message, telling him to remove ALL my text and pictures, and I sent a complaint to eBay - not that I think they'll do anything...

Ooooo - now I see that the auction has concluded - not "pulled," just "concluded..."

Boy, do I feel dirty!

cowboytwang · April 13th, 2005, 11:51 AM

"The seller ended this listing early because of an error in the listing."

I think he got the message.

He relisted the auction and has a link to your site.

2nd Harmony H15 auction

lenny · April 13th, 2005, 11:52 AM

i think you guys did the right thing. even if he gives credit, he didn't have your permission to use it.. i'm not a lawyer.. tony dogs??
anyway, gc has plenty of resources to make up , buy, or somehow get good descriptions on their own

Deaf Eddie · April 13th, 2005, 03:21 PM

I edited my webpages to display this disclaimer at the top, on both my homepage and my Harmony axe page:

"IF YOU CAME HERE VIA A LINK IN AN EBAY AUCTION:
PLEASE be aware that I have NO association with this person, he is attempting to use my website to promote HIS item. If you're looking for info about the Harmony H15 he has listed, FIRST, the "street price" for that axe SHOULD be in the $100 range, NOT the $300 he is asking... If that don't scare you off already, there's not much else I can say, other than I have no affiliation nor any particular affection for Guitar Center. They got a lot of BALLS to use me this way, without my consent or permission. If I knew who to b*tch [complain] to about this, buddy, you'd better believe I'd be b*tching..."

Let's see if he leaves the links to my site up now!

Mark Davis · April 13th, 2005, 03:21 PM

Eddie just add something to your web page that says no information from this page may be used in print without my permission.

Guitar Center vs EvilBay sounds like a new monster movie hahah.

J-man · April 13th, 2005, 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deaf Eddie

I edited my webpages to display this disclaimer at the top, on both my homepage and my Harmony axe page:

"IF YOU CAME HERE VIA A LINK IN AN EBAY AUCTION:
PLEASE be aware that I have NO association with this person, he is attempting to use my website to promote HIS item. If you're looking for info about the Harmony H15 he has listed, FIRST, the "street price" for that axe SHOULD be in the $100 range, NOT the $300 he is asking... If that don't scare you off already, there's not much else I can say, other than I have no affiliation nor any particular affection for Guitar Center. They got a lot of BALLS to use me this way, without my consent or permission. If I knew who to b*tch [complain] to about this, buddy, you'd better believe I'd be b*tching..."

Let's see if he leaves the links to my site up now!

That's great. :)

Geo · April 13th, 2005, 04:14 PM

GC vs e-bay. I don't know. Think the live "entertainment"
at GC is hard to beat if you are in the mood for
the humor aspects.

April 12th, 2005, 10:59 PM	#1 (permalink)
Deaf Eddie Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Sunny San Diego, CA Posts: 1,248 14 Photos	Which is worse - eBay or Guitar Center?!? Here's a fine "howd'ya'do?" I woke up to, today. Check out this auction: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=7314230995 The eBayer here, whose handle is gcrep114 (Guitar Center Representative???) and whose e-mail is through guitarcenter.com lifted the text from my ENTIRE webpage to describe HIS guitar - including some photos of MY GUITARS! See my webpage: http://www.deaf-eddie.net/silver.html I sent him an e-mail asking him to REMOVE my text and pics from his listing, but then I said he could use a paragraph, but no more. Sheesh! A quick edit to add: Ohmygawd, I just saw his asking price of $300!!! He's obviously using my flowery description and nostalgic raving in an attempt to con some rookie - that REALLY SUCKS! Yeah, I love those axes, but only if you get them at a realistic price - like, under a hundred bucks for the model he's selling for three times that. Wow. Whaddaya think- shine it on, or try to cause a big stink? __________________ YMMV - I been wrong before...

April 13th, 2005, 12:34 AM	#3 (permalink)
DADGAD Tele-Holic Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Palmdale, CA Posts: 764	Tell him you are sending over a couple of big Sicilian friends wearing Hawaiian shirts to collect your percentage. "Hey, it's strictly business." 8) 8) Seriously, I bet you could make some money offering a sales writing service. If you're good enough to copy, you're good! Your web site is protected by (C) and he broke the law. You should report him. Gary __________________ "I need to learn some new scales and stop obsessing about this stuff." http://www.myspace.com/slickshoes

April 13th, 2005, 12:34 AM	#4 (permalink)
JMH65 Tele-Meister Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Denison TX Posts: 163	I would tell him to send you an instant payment of $100 through Paypal for services rendered or you will report him to E-Bay. Sometimes you have to strongarm punks like that. I would be really ticked. __________________ "I probably ought to quit my drinking but I don't believe I will"~James McMurtry

April 13th, 2005, 01:48 AM	#5 (permalink)
cowboytwang Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: mojave desert Posts: 1,583 14 Photos	YES YES YES file a fraud report with ebay. Guitar Center has run so many fraudulent auctions and every time someone finds one they should report it. They should NOT be linking to your website for text and/or pictures without permission. I just submitted a fraud report on ebay Item 7314230995 __________________ Alvin http://www.myspace.com/alvinblaine http://www.oldbluesound.com/about.htm _________________________ Originality is just undetected Plagiarism!

April 13th, 2005, 06:33 AM	#6 (permalink)
cowboytwang Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: mojave desert Posts: 1,583 14 Photos	OK he updated the auction and gave credit to the website and apologized. __________________ Alvin http://www.myspace.com/alvinblaine http://www.oldbluesound.com/about.htm _________________________ Originality is just undetected Plagiarism!

April 12th, 2005, 11:48 PM	#2 (permalink)
photoweborama Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Sacramento, CA Age: 50 Posts: 1,510 15 Photos	I think you can have ebay yank thier auciton. If you show them the link to your site, or a link to an auction they stole the information and photos from without permission.

April 13th, 2005, 11:42 AM	#8 (permalink)
Deaf Eddie Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Sunny San Diego, CA Posts: 1,248 14 Photos	Still up there this morning... So now he "credits" me for my prose - BUT! To me, that just makes me look like an accomplice in this - to me, THAT'S WORSE THAN JUST STEALING MY TEXT. Thanks for filing the fraud report, Cowboytwang. I sent him another eBay message, telling him to remove ALL my text and pictures, and I sent a complaint to eBay - not that I think they'll do anything... Ooooo - now I see that the auction has concluded - not "pulled," just "concluded..." Boy, do I feel dirty! __________________ YMMV - I been wrong before...

April 13th, 2005, 11:51 AM	#9 (permalink)
cowboytwang Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: mojave desert Posts: 1,583 14 Photos	"The seller ended this listing early because of an error in the listing." I think he got the message. He relisted the auction and has a link to your site. 2nd Harmony H15 auction __________________ Alvin http://www.myspace.com/alvinblaine http://www.oldbluesound.com/about.htm _________________________ Originality is just undetected Plagiarism!

April 13th, 2005, 11:52 AM	#10 (permalink)
lenny Banned Friend of Leo's Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: New Haven, CT. USA Posts: 3,219	i think you guys did the right thing. even if he gives credit, he didn't have your permission to use it.. i'm not a lawyer.. tony dogs?? anyway, gc has plenty of resources to make up , buy, or somehow get good descriptions on their own

April 13th, 2005, 03:21 PM	#11 (permalink)
Deaf Eddie Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Sunny San Diego, CA Posts: 1,248 14 Photos	So, here's my inelegant solution... I edited my webpages to display this disclaimer at the top, on both my homepage and my Harmony axe page: "IF YOU CAME HERE VIA A LINK IN AN EBAY AUCTION: PLEASE be aware that I have NO association with this person, he is attempting to use my website to promote HIS item. If you're looking for info about the Harmony H15 he has listed, FIRST, the "street price" for that axe SHOULD be in the $100 range, NOT the $300 he is asking... If that don't scare you off already, there's not much else I can say, other than I have no affiliation nor any particular affection for Guitar Center. They got a lot of BALLS to use me this way, without my consent or permission. If I knew who to btch [complain] to about this, buddy, you'd better believe I'd be btching..." Let's see if he leaves the links to my site up now! __________________ YMMV - I been wrong before...

April 13th, 2005, 03:21 PM	#12 (permalink)
Mark Davis Doctor of Teleocity Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Bakersfield Ca. Age: 58 Posts: 12,865	Eddie just add something to your web page that says no information from this page may be used in print without my permission. Guitar Center vs EvilBay sounds like a new monster movie hahah.

April 13th, 2005, 04:14 PM	#14 (permalink)
Geo Friend of Leo's Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Hendersonville, TN Age: 59 Posts: 2,484 15 Photos	GC vs e-bay. I don't know. Think the live "entertainment" at GC is hard to beat if you are in the mood for the humor aspects. __________________ "Somewhere between culture and agriculture"