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Kingtone · April 12th, 2005, 04:19 PM

Big Blast from the Past: Rock and Roll Trio

5965 · April 12th, 2005, 05:06 PM

Thanks. Curious that they left 'Train' out after remarking about it's importance.

bo · April 13th, 2005, 12:10 PM

I need to replace my vinyl...

Kingtone · April 13th, 2005, 04:19 PM

I really thought this post would generate more than 2 comments...

Poppatwang · April 13th, 2005, 05:04 PM

that whole Paul Burlison vs Hank Garland thing
might rear it's head.

Check out the Tiny Bradshaw version of "Train".
Johnny & co. dragged it right through the swamp.
Bradshaw-Burnette-Yardbirds-Aerosmith, each
version has something to offer.

UncleJarmo · April 13th, 2005, 05:34 PM

Yeah, I was waiting to hear "Train", too.

Paul's Esquire sounded great, though. Nice and snarly.
What amp did he use for those recordings. In '56 it would have been kind of tweedville, I'd think.

bo · April 13th, 2005, 05:44 PM

I don't buy the Paul Burlison/Grady Martin debate. None of the solos sound like Martin. Influenced by him perhaps, but they lack his attack. There are tons of Martin's performances out there and often you'll here tones or motifs repeated. None of those are present on what would have been likely considered another "throwaway" rock'n'roll session or on any of Martin's sessions afterwards. On top of that Burlison never had any trouble reproducing the playing on the records.

ye olde fretmonkey · April 13th, 2005, 07:17 PM

I did not know that bit about Paul Burlison playing behind Howlin Wolf.

Tele295 · April 13th, 2005, 08:12 PM

Burlison played a tweed Deluxe

Poppatwang · April 13th, 2005, 09:38 PM

I meant Grady Martin. Hank Garland on the brain I guess.
Now if I could just PLAY like him.

flyingb54 · April 15th, 2005, 04:39 PM

Man, "Train Kept A Rollin" knocks the Yardbirds version into the gutter. Now this is my kind of rock & roll..raw, powerful, hit & miss but full of passion.
Ricky Nelson used to always joke about the Burnett boys. He said they liked to fight...were always mixing it up.
They also camped out in their car in front of Ozzie & Harriet's home until Rick finnally would hear their songs....one was "Believe What You Say." Great tune....
I loved this trio!
JB
www.johnbeland.com

olewichita · April 19th, 2005, 04:59 AM

no offense but maybe you haven't heard too much of the classic rockabilly decca / coral sessions grady played on... because there is TONS of stuff out there that sounds exactly like his work with johnny burnette... ( don woody, johhny carroll are two classic examples... )

imho paul played on the NY sessions and together with martin maybe on train kept a rollin and blues stay away from me... i'm pretty sure harold bradley appears on some of the tracks also... i've had a lot of this info verified first hand throughout the years...

there are even some sessions pre-dating train kept a rollin that grady played on that have the octave riff on it... everybody's trying to be my baby by the york brothers comes to mind... get the 2 decca vaults bear familly CDs and you'll hear for yourself... tj

bo · April 19th, 2005, 10:39 AM

tj, that's just it. I'm very familiar with that stuff. I DON'T think Martin's stuff sounds like Paul Burlison's on the R'n'R Trio sessions. I have no doubt Burlison was a fan of Martin's work and it shows in his playing, but it sounds like two different guys to my ears.

UncleJarmo · April 19th, 2005, 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tele295

Burlison played a tweed Deluxe

Hey thanks,

That's pretty cool. No wonder I like my Top Hat Club Deluxe with my Muddy Waters tele so much. :D

The TH Club Deluxe is kind of like a Vox preamp with a 6v6 Tweed Deluxe power amp.

olewichita · April 19th, 2005, 10:19 PM

wow... i guess perceptions can really differ... do yourself a favor and check out the grady martin 45 / 78 instrumental of when my dreamboat comes home... it has every lick on it that you hear on the burnette recordings and more... if that still doesn't convince you nothing will...

fwiw... i've seen paul many times too and other than tear it up, train kept a rollin' and honey hush he couldn't even approximate grady's original picking or style and chops on the records...

honestly, play tear it up and rockbilly boogie back to back and if that's the same guitar player we are talkin' the 9th wonder of the world... that's 3 months of time between sessions...

anyway, you have your perception and i have mine... it's all good... let me know what you think after you hear when my dreamboat comes true...

tj

April 12th, 2005, 04:19 PM	#1 (permalink)
Kingtone Tele-Holic Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Camillus, NY Age: 51 Posts: 540 5 Photos	Rock and Roll Trio on NPR Big Blast from the Past: Rock and Roll Trio

April 13th, 2005, 12:10 PM	#3 (permalink)
bo Friend of Leo's Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 2,276	Thank You! I need to replace my vinyl...

April 13th, 2005, 04:19 PM	#4 (permalink)
Kingtone Tele-Holic Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Camillus, NY Age: 51 Posts: 540 5 Photos	Bo, Thanks for the thanks I really thought this post would generate more than 2 comments...

April 13th, 2005, 05:04 PM	#5 (permalink)
Poppatwang Friend of Leo's Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: St. Paul, MN Posts: 2,099 13 Photos	Tread lightly... that whole Paul Burlison vs Hank Garland thing might rear it's head. Check out the Tiny Bradshaw version of "Train". Johnny & co. dragged it right through the swamp. Bradshaw-Burnette-Yardbirds-Aerosmith, each version has something to offer. __________________ The Dieselfitters http://www.dieselfitters.com Roy Hubbs http://www.royhubbs.com

April 13th, 2005, 05:34 PM	#6 (permalink)
UncleJarmo Tele-Meister Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Brookings, SD, USA Posts: 232	Yeah, I was waiting to hear "Train", too. Paul's Esquire sounded great, though. Nice and snarly. What amp did he use for those recordings. In '56 it would have been kind of tweedville, I'd think. __________________ There are two kinds of people in this world; those who think there are two kinds of people and those who are smart enough to know better" --Tom Robbins

April 12th, 2005, 05:06 PM	#2 (permalink)
5965 Tele-Holic Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 738	Thanks. Curious that they left 'Train' out after remarking about it's importance.

April 13th, 2005, 05:44 PM	#7 (permalink)
bo Friend of Leo's Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 2,276	I don't buy the Paul Burlison/Grady Martin debate. None of the solos sound like Martin. Influenced by him perhaps, but they lack his attack. There are tons of Martin's performances out there and often you'll here tones or motifs repeated. None of those are present on what would have been likely considered another "throwaway" rock'n'roll session or on any of Martin's sessions afterwards. On top of that Burlison never had any trouble reproducing the playing on the records.

April 13th, 2005, 07:17 PM	#8 (permalink)
ye olde fretmonkey Friend of Leo's Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Austin Age: 49 Posts: 3,658	I did not know that bit about Paul Burlison playing behind Howlin Wolf. __________________ Just 'cause that's the way things are, that never did make it right.

April 13th, 2005, 08:12 PM	#9 (permalink)
Tele295 Friend of Leo's Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: St. Latchodrom, CA Posts: 4,028 14 Photos	Burlison played a tweed Deluxe __________________ "Turn it up and it doesn't need any reverb." - Danny Gatton www.dannygatton.info Tiger Town Aces - Music That Bites Back In Redd we trust! Free Bill Kirchen! If lawyers are disbarred and clergymen defrocked, doesn't it follow that electricians can be delighted, musicians denoted, cowboys deranged, models deposed, tree surgeons debarked, and dry cleaners depressed?

April 13th, 2005, 09:38 PM	#10 (permalink)
Poppatwang Friend of Leo's Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: St. Paul, MN Posts: 2,099 13 Photos	Thank you Bo... I meant Grady Martin. Hank Garland on the brain I guess. Now if I could just PLAY like him. __________________ The Dieselfitters http://www.dieselfitters.com Roy Hubbs http://www.royhubbs.com

April 15th, 2005, 04:39 PM	#11 (permalink)
flyingb54 Tele-Holic Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: BRENHAM TEXAS Age: 60 Posts: 820	WOW..THESE CATS ROCKED!!! Man, "Train Kept A Rollin" knocks the Yardbirds version into the gutter. Now this is my kind of rock & roll..raw, powerful, hit & miss but full of passion. Ricky Nelson used to always joke about the Burnett boys. He said they liked to fight...were always mixing it up. They also camped out in their car in front of Ozzie & Harriet's home until Rick finnally would hear their songs....one was "Believe What You Say." Great tune.... I loved this trio! JB www.johnbeland.com __________________ "Son, that has nothing to do with nothin'"....Bill Monroe

April 19th, 2005, 04:59 AM	#12 (permalink)
olewichita Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: austin, tx Posts: 1,621	hey bo... no offense but maybe you haven't heard too much of the classic rockabilly decca / coral sessions grady played on... because there is TONS of stuff out there that sounds exactly like his work with johnny burnette... ( don woody, johhny carroll are two classic examples... ) imho paul played on the NY sessions and together with martin maybe on train kept a rollin and blues stay away from me... i'm pretty sure harold bradley appears on some of the tracks also... i've had a lot of this info verified first hand throughout the years... there are even some sessions pre-dating train kept a rollin that grady played on that have the octave riff on it... everybody's trying to be my baby by the york brothers comes to mind... get the 2 decca vaults bear familly CDs and you'll hear for yourself... tj

April 19th, 2005, 10:39 AM	#13 (permalink)
bo Friend of Leo's Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 2,276	tj, that's just it. I'm very familiar with that stuff. I DON'T think Martin's stuff sounds like Paul Burlison's on the R'n'R Trio sessions. I have no doubt Burlison was a fan of Martin's work and it shows in his playing, but it sounds like two different guys to my ears.

April 19th, 2005, 10:19 PM	#15 (permalink)
olewichita Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: austin, tx Posts: 1,621	bo... wow... i guess perceptions can really differ... do yourself a favor and check out the grady martin 45 / 78 instrumental of when my dreamboat comes home... it has every lick on it that you hear on the burnette recordings and more... if that still doesn't convince you nothing will... fwiw... i've seen paul many times too and other than tear it up, train kept a rollin' and honey hush he couldn't even approximate grady's original picking or style and chops on the records... honestly, play tear it up and rockbilly boogie back to back and if that's the same guitar player we are talkin' the 9th wonder of the world... that's 3 months of time between sessions... anyway, you have your perception and i have mine... it's all good... let me know what you think after you hear when my dreamboat comes true... tj

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