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Tony, your ecstacy is my pain...I went to bed when it was 11-6...I couldn't sleep came down an hour later
and it was still on and something like 19-7 or 18-7. Anyways, a wicked nightmare, much worse than '78 or even '86. When a "hoss" like Schilling goes down there has to be a curse. Pedro sadly is going down the same road Ramon did....his arm is gone....every now and then if the humidity is right he's capable of throwing a gem. I'll say this to all You New Yorkers: Boston was flying high right up until Francona inserted Nixon back into Right Field and they instantly became a .500 Club. Regardless of what Nixon's done his presence on the field disrupted Boston's fragile chemistry....Millar stopped hitting, Mueller stopped hitting, Bellhorn too and the fastest man on the team (Roberts) rode "the pine" while the best arm in the outfield (Kapler) rode shotgun. Honestly in my heart of hearts I believe Helen Keller could have managed circles around Terry Francona-he's no Joe Torre by a long shot. Grady woulda and did put up a better fight. I can't get over the once mighty Red Sox Pitching Staff taking a dive - all of them at the same time. The only realistic prayer we've got - and believe me I've lived with The Red Sox my entire life and it ain't gonna happen EVER is if Francona pulls an "Earl Weaver" and lets Mike Timlin START the first 3 innings, then goes to Embree for the next 2 innings, then to Mendoza for 6th, Pedro for the 7th and 8th and Foulk for the 9th. It's the last game and they've got to throw everything including the sink at Joe Torre if there's gonna be a Game 5 and that might be more painful than the sweep.... There IS a curse, no doubt about it.
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Tele-Meister
Join Date: Mar 2003
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I think the curse was reinforced this year by my fiance'.She definitely doesn't want this to go 7 games.
I think the only thing worse for you Sox fans would be this scenario: Come back and beat the Yanks in 7,only to lose to the Astros in 7 with Clemens getting the win. 8) |
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BoSox....
.....man that was just pathetic. I couldn't believe all the people on sports talk radio shows leading up to this series, saying Boston really would probably win against the Yankees--give me a break! Where have they been the last century or two?
My only hope is that the mighty Cards live up to their hype, but I'm not convinced. If they lose game 4 to the STros, all of the sudden, that thing is a series and then they'd limp into the world series, worn out, and the Yankees will win their frigging 13,000th championship. *sigh* -Eric
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It's fine Lenny, Stan (my Dad) came from New York and
his very first job where he actually received "a statement" was at Yankee Stadium the year it opened, I think he was 14 or 15 years old. Lucky guy, he only had 3 jobs in his entire life, the others were selling Corn Flakes in The Great Depression and Thoroughbred Racing He always said that Yankee Stadium "was the perfect Ballyard" no expense was spared. He once told me that if Ted Williams has been a Yankee he would have hit 800 dingers (Ruth was a Lefty-the place was built to showcase his abilities-Ted was a Lefty too). My Mother Rest In Peace seriously considered putting "I never saw them win it all" as her epitath on the family monument but she was born in 1918 so technically kinda sorta She did - at 5 months old !!! They were both Baseball Fans of The 1ST Order so I spent a lot of my childhood in The Reserved Grandstand at Fenway. Just before my Mom came Home - Hospice is the way to go - She was on the 22nd Floor of Mass General in one of those really nice suites and of course the place was filled with Family and Old Friends telling jokes and lies and she'd say to me "Richard turn up the television...Fatso" "Fatso" was Mo Vaughn, my Mom's favorite Player of his generation - even at 80 years old She was still a Baseball Fan and totally "into it"....roomful of wellwishers and still had that left eye on "The Game". Even Today years later I can turn it on and They're beside me.
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...."Dead Men Walking"....
There is (if You will) a divine reason why The Red Sox will
not "go all the way". Simply put it would be the greatest story EVER told....down 3 games to 1, heading into the lair of "The Curse", being forced to win it in New York....actually what Jesse Owens did in The 1936 Olympics bears a striking similarity in regards to the enormity of the upcoming struggle. But for those of us who have brooded through all The New England Winters of our lives perhaps this is the way that it is supposed to happen The Impossible Dream all the decades of frustration the "what-if-this-had-happeneds". In my life I have never seen it but am now daring to think that perhaps there are forces at work here that are going to take New Englanders on The Ultimate RollerCoaster Ride. It would be great just to win a World Championship....but to get it this way - being all but buried by THE NEW YORK YANKEES..... THAT IS "THE ULTIMATE".
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Re: ...."Dead Men Walking"....
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It's like the dog who chases cars--if he ever actually caught the car, what in the world would he do with it? :P Joel |
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Well everyone
it's on to "The House That Ruth Built" it's supposed to rain all night and tomorrow right up until game time so
the field is gonna be a sponge and they might have to call it for sloppy conditions....talk about great fights to the death....this is starting to look a little bit like the first "Rocky" which I'm sure to all of our surprises nobody mentioned in the "Favorite Movies" thread. Tony, Lenny, Everyone, fasten Your seatbelts it looks like we got "A War In The Bronx" coming to a television near You. I wonder what the TV Ratings have been like these last two evenings.... Joel, The Cubs have a HUGE following in New England which has always been Baseball crazy, Ernie Banks is as much a "legend" here as someone like Elgin Baylor or Lou Brock or Julius Irving. Whoever wins the American League Pennant is gonna go to The World Series pretty bloodied, if it's Us - I hope we get "Roger" - The Cards have been bad luck for Us in the past '46, '67. If it's You Guys I hope You get LaRussa. Torre and LaRussa would be quite a "chess match". I think they are the two best managers of the last 20 years and I don't recall them ever going head to head in The Playoffs or The Series. Time will tell.
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Join Date: Jun 2004
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this is killing me...
Because of the time difference, I had to get up at 5 AM over here to start watching Game 5. Then think about work at 11? I'm just drained.
I may work here in Singapore but I grew up in the Boston area. I have endured, as my father and grandfather before me (but he was more of a Braves fan). My little daughter now knows how to say "Go Red Sox", but this madness has got to end. Red Sox in 7. |
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I have to agree with Joel in as much as I love the Sox
(& can't stand the Evil Empire) but what will/would the BoSox & their fans do if they ever win the World Series. There's a certain beauty in the stigma of being a New Englander. It makes me a stronger person. So lets go Red Sox!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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It would be slightly more tollerable if Tim McCarver didn't have his nose so far up the Yankees butts. :x Hey! A new thread
"How much would you like to throttle Tim McCarver?"
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a cure for McCarveritis
turn the sound off on yr TV, put an AM radio next to it, turn on the radio: Jon Miller and Joe Morgan, big as life. Smart, cranky, funny, a 100% improvement instantly.
and, um, go Sox. it's true that I'm a mariners fan (long year) but I think I speak for every right-thinking human being when I say that I hope the Yankees lose like the dogs that they are. |
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Join Date: Mar 2003
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I'm no Boston fan, but being a Cleveland Indians fan since I was big enough to know what a baseball was, well, you can probably guess how I feel about the Yankees. That being said, I have been glued to my TV for two nights running, fingers crossed tightly in hopes that the Sox can finally get it done. The last two games have been nail-biters for sure, some history making baseball has an oppurtunity to unfold right in front of us, and I can't wait to see it.
GO SOX!!! Jake P.S.- The Cubs got a mention here, so I have to chime in on that too. My best friend was born and raised in Chicago. The first time we ever went out for beers, I asked him if he was a baseball fan, and whether he backed the Cubs or the White Sox. His answer: "Anybody smart enough to pour piss out of a boot knows there's only one baseball team in Chicago, and that's the Cubs."
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Since the Cubs fell flat on their faces at the end of the season, my heart is with the Red Sox to win it all, but my brain tells me "No way that's gonna happen - they're the Red Sox!"
Anyone but the Cardinals PUHLEEEAZE!!!! As a Cub fan I must root against St. Louis, it's a law!
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I have been a fan of the Red Sox since I was about 9 or 10; I always liked Carlton Fisk, so the Red Sox became my team. (And they remained my favorite American League team long after Pudge was traded to the White Sox.) I witnessed and cried over Bucky Dent's homer in 1978 when I was 10 years old. I witnessed and cursed Calvin Schiraldi's pitching meltdown and Bill Buckner's muffed play in Game Six during my first year of college in 1986. I've hurt for and with the Red Sox and the Boston fans for many years. And, in 1981, when my neighborhood got cable, the Chicago Cubs became my favorite National League team, thanks to WGN-TV and Harry Caray's incomparable play-by-play and honest opinions. (Whaddya know? The Cubs--I just had to pick another famously hardluck team.) But I don't hate anyone for their sports affiliations. I don't hate the Yankees or their fans, and I don't hate the Cardinals or their fans--they aren't my "sworn" enemies. I'm a major Miami Dolphins fanatic--probably my all-time favorite team in any sport; so, the same Red Sox fans from Boston with whom I cheer in the summer are usually Patriots fans in winter. So, it'd be hypocritical of me to "love" them one minute and "hate" them the next. Come to think of it, all of this reminds me of something Jerry Seinfeld once observed: When we cheer for a particular sports team, we're not really cheering for the players; instead, we're actually cheering for their uniforms. We're cheering for [size=2]CLOTHING[/size]. Because, let one of the star players on your team get traded to a rival team, and then you HATE him! You basically despise someone for changing clothes. :P I don't hate people over normally divisive issues, like religious or political affiliations; why would I hate them over their sports affiliations? 'Tis just a note of interest. You're still OK with me, Lenny. :P Joel |
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so who says the yanks are gonna just kick their asses tonight? /me raises hand |
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The whole thing is snowballing !!!! Baseball Season is so long that it's kind of a reflection of a life lived and like life Yogi Berra said it all "It Ain't Over 'Til It's Over." That is one of the most undeniably true statements ever stated in our universe - a visitor from another galaxy when someday stumbling across it will no doubt assume that it was one of The Philosophers - well it was - it was Yogi - and it will be true for as long as there are stars twinkling somewhere. Flashing to "the favorite film thread" remember when "The Farm" was about to be reposessed - just before Karen fell off the bleachers - "People will come." We got people around the world going to work with just one eye open and halfway at that because it's The Impossible Dream....and like that Greatest Philosopher Of The Diamond stated so eloquently "It's Deja Vu All Over Again." This is as good as it gets, "The Mountain Top". There are many great |