Jersey Shore

[tele-rain]

OK Chet, it's time to come clean. Which one of these "gentlemen" is really you?

http://www.1010wins.com/-Jersey-Shor...-Shore/5950448



Personally, I despise all "reality" shows but this one one really takes the cake in poor taste. However, it's nothing we haven't seen before. Saturday Night Fever. The Sopranos, etc. Guidos will be guidos, everyone has a right to be who they want to be, doesn't mean I have to like them though

It's interesting though, because the Jersey Shore that Bruce depicts in his songs was how it used to be. But over the years, New Yorkers started to vacation down there, and eventually move to other parts of NJ as well. I myself, am one of those who migrated to NJ. So, as always, it's really a matter of which stereotype you most associate with, and which you prefer.

[charlie chitlin]

Jersey Shore (pronounces "shoa")?
What exit?

[KCLefty]

Originally Posted by tele-rain

It's interesting though, because the Jersey Shore that Bruce depicts in his songs was how it used to be. But over the years, New Yorkers started to vacation down there, and eventually move to other parts of NJ as well. I myself, am one of those who migrated to NJ. So, as always, it's really a matter of which stereotype you most associate with, and which you prefer.

I watched the show. It's total trash TV but like any train wreck it's hard not to take a peak.

I spent my summers in Wildwood during the 70's and lived there for ten years later in life. I can say the same thing was happening down there. The only difference was it's South Jersey and you had mostly city kids from Philly visiting there instead of New Yorkers. I don't find the show at all offending. I'm Italian American and I think the terms "Guidos" and "Guidetts" are pretty funny.

The incident where the girl got punched in the face at the bar is pretty disturbing. Hopefully whoever did that paid for it... totally unacceptable. MTV was going to air it but decided not to. There was a video of it on you tube... the gut really whacked her

[chet]

Heard about it but never have watched it.

Those people come down every year on the NJ Transit trains to the beach here every summer. Or clog up the NJ Parkway down further south.

I avoid them every summer so why should I watch a show about them?

[rickc007]

Originally Posted by charlie chitlin

Jersey Shore (pronounces "shoa")?
What exit?

Actually I think "shoa" is pronunciated somewhere in Carra-LINE-a

North East would be Joizey Shaw

[ACK75]

Why can't Obama send the troops to the Jersey Shore to rid the country of morons like those folks instead of Afghanistan? Those idiots are a greater threat to the well-being of this country than the Taliban, IMO. =-)

[tele-rain]

Originally Posted by KCLefty

I watched the show. It's total trash TV but like any train wreck it's hard not to take a peak.

I spent my summers in Wildwood during the 70's and lived there for ten years later in life. I can say the same thing was happening down there. The only difference was it's South Jersey and you had mostly city kids from Philly visiting there instead of New Yorkers. I don't find the show at all offending. I'm Italian American and I think the terms "Guidos" and "Guidetts" are pretty funny.

The incident where the girl got punched in the face at the bar is pretty disturbing. Hopefully whoever did that paid for it... totally unacceptable. MTV was going to air it but decided not to. There was a video of it on you tube... the gut really whacked her

I agree, I dislke "guidos and guidettes" myself, yet of course, being Italian American as well, they are some of my friends/family. I used to get more hung up about it but now i just see it as whatever makes them happy. And I don't think the show gives NJ anymore of a bad name than it had already with other shows, as I mentioned Sopranos, etc. In addition to that "what exit" joke, the other bad rep NJ gets is that it smells because of the factories. However, when you live here, you know that's only in the sections of the Turnpike where the factories are, and I guess the surrounding towns. My area certainly does not smell like toxic waste. So,

People always generalize and assume and stereotype, this show is no different. It'll have it's moment in the spotlight and die down like everything else, eventually...we hope

Oh yeah, I remeber when the girl getting punched was all over the news. I wasn't aware the episode never aired, which is a good thing.

[tele-rain]

Originally Posted by chet

Heard about it but never have watched it.

Those people come down every year on the NJ Transit trains to the beach here every summer. Or clog up the NJ Parkway down further south.

I avoid them every summer so why should I watch a show about them?

You didn't take my bait Chet... I was just tryin to jest ya a little bit

But, I agree...I don't watch it either. Just happened to see that news bit and thought it was funny. My niece and nephew watch it sometimes but make fun of it too, they seem to get the whole "train wreck" aspect of it.

[chet]

Originally Posted by tele-rain

You didn't take my bait Chet... I was just tryin to jest ya a little bit

But, I agree...I don't watch it either. Just happened to see that news bit and thought it was funny. My niece and nephew watch it sometimes but make fun of it too, they seem to get the whole "train wreck" aspect of it.

Guys from Long Island like DMace might get thier hackles up.

It usually smells pretty good around here- nothing like the smell of saltwater and surf!

I especially like it about now.

[ADK Teleman]

I spent some time on the jersey shore at Ortley beach and the only bad things were the tourists who showed no respect to the locals...it pissed me off. We were guests in your state and they were like this place sucks etc....I kept telling them...then leave..:)

[Brad Pittiful]

the only jersey shore i want to watch is the actual jersey shore mother nature made

[giginthesky]

former avalon native here. far enough from wildwood to exhale in relief. as for the show, i've never heard of it.

[DMace]

Originally Posted by chet

Guys from Long Island like DMace might get thier hackles up.

It usually smells pretty good around here- nothing like the smell of saltwater and surf!

I especially like it about now.

Chet, are you still sore about the comments I made about your fair state months back? I love Jersey. Really, I do.

[telideli]

I gigged a bunch in Seaside Heights in the early 80's - great scene then,....now there's a bunch of pompous knuckleheads running around,...as MTV continues to contribute to the dumbing down of America's youth...

[Joefish]

Originally Posted by giginthesky

former avalon native here. far enough from wildwood to exhale in relief. as for the show, i've never heard of it.

(North Wildwood)

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Wildwood

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[KCLefty]

Hey Joe nice pict's...

I lived in North Wildwood for ten years. I know exactly where both of those shots were taken. Do you have a place there?

[stevieboy]

I happened to be in NYC a couple of weeks ago and there was a story on the TV news saying that the guy who punched the girl was a junior high school teacher and he was suspended from his job at that point. They showed the punch, her head really snapped back, it looked like he really smacked her. I imagine he'll have more consequences than just the job thing as well.

[Joefish]

Originally Posted by KCLefty

Hey Joe nice pict's...

I lived in North Wildwood for ten years. I know exactly where both of those shots were taken. Do you have a place there?

Thanks, the back bay is cool! ... regarding the house - it's belongs to a friend

Originally Posted by telideli

I gigged a bunch in Seaside Heights in the early 80's - great scene then,....now there's a bunch of pompous knuckleheads running around,...as MTV continues to contribute to the dumbing down of America's youth...

The Mid 80's were very cool around here ...

[Skully]

I agree, I dislke "guidos and guidettes" myself, yet of course, being Italian American as well, they are some of my friends/family.

I have a Italian-American relative in my extended family who's very offended by it, and she's not an uptight you-know-what either. But she is from Staten Island, so...

I responded to her concerns by tell her the story of the Italian-American Civil Rights League.

[dented]

Ahh yesss. My parents used to throw us in the back of the Buick Electra 225 and down to Wildwood we would go. Great summers there in the 60's. This Italian American has never seen the show, nor do any of you make it seem that I should. Of course growing up in an Italian neighborhood in New York I was surrounded by da Gueeds in my own house even. Punks on TV, what else is new?

[BGTele]

Those young guys are just playing to the camera and everybody is outraged. ACK75
thinks they are worse than the Taliban. Those young guys would say "Damn right
we are." It's a sport of sorts in New Jersey to strut at the shore for young guys.

New Jersey gets grief from everywhere and they couldn't care less. Every area in this country has its caricatures. Even Virginia. Doesn't mean it's true. They are mugging
and posing. They are kids. Don't let kids get to you. We don't. We say "Yeah, yeah..
you're tough. Like my little sister, pretty boy"
By the way, I grew up here and never heard anybody say Joisey except people trying to imitate Jersey people. But say dat all ya want. Who cares? We'll be whatever
ya want us to be, awright pal? Now gimme a cup of cawfee.

[gmann]

I lived in Tinton Falls for two yrs. I guess the Shore's heyday was over by then. The Pony was still there, still gettin' great acts too. I saw Bruce sittin' in with the band at Rum Runners once and that was really something. Best Jersey Shore guitarist I ever heard was Billy Hector. 2nd best was Bobby Bandiera. Hung around the boardwalk in Pt. Pleasant alot and saw a lot of great blues acts at Jason's in S. Belmar. Being fm the South it was truly culture shock for me. It seemed like everybody was 'connected' but I got to say everyone treated me really well, not one negative memory. It seemed like everyone was working on their moves and attitudes. Lotsa hairspray. Lotsa great bands like Cats On A Smooth Surface and you could still hear John Cafferty once in a while. And the food, don't get me started! Amazing place. Good times.

[KBing]

Originally Posted by Joefish

Thanks, the back bay is cool! ... regarding the house - it's belongs to a friend




The Mid 80's were very cool around here ...

RIP Robert Hazard - wrote "Girls Just Wanna Have Fun" and a couple others.

The Hooters were also a great band form that era and are still around, made it bigger in Europe than here.

JC Dobbs was GREAT place on South Street. Been there many times but not since it became the Pontiac Grill, so it's been awhile.

I worked with a band in the 80's that played there in regular rotation, as well as the Cabaret Clubs...some wild times back then for sure.

I am also a Jersey native and love the Jersey Shore, off season is best, but partook in the party atmosphere in my youth, it couldn't be beat. Worked on the Boards in Seaside in '72. What an experience! Long Beach Island is more laid back but it too is being over run by the New York type "A"s...they seem to like to bring their stress with them on vacation and spread it around.

[tcarp]

I'm Jersey born and bred, originally from Middlesex County which is very close to the shore, and although my last name ends in a vowel, I've never refered to myself as an Italian-American. I've always been an American, always will be and damn proud of it. All that said, I'm one of those guys who thinks that the Godfather is the greatest movie ever made and jokingly refer to guidos as "my tribe". Go figure.

The stereotypical guidos/goombas/paisans, especially from the NY/NJ area, don't so much offend me as they do amaze me. What does offend me are self-righteous hyphenated-Americans who get offended by ethnic humor or ethnic stereotypes on behalf of "their" people. The vast majority of hyphenated-Americans whose ancestry is European by now are third and fourth generation. It's time to drop the hyphen. It's a good thing to have some connection to your roots, but just don't lose the ability to laugh at yourself every now and then.

Tom

[Sea Level]

Jersey Shore, i love it. My wife is from Red Bank area, and we have had stays in Avon when we are in the area as well as taking day trips from Red Bank. Beautiful beach areas and nice sea shore towns up and down. i am absolutely taken with Sandy Hook, a Peninsula on the North end near New York harbor. We visited the old army base there. NJ has some very nice areas, and I bet the music scene was really something back in the day. I think the area deserves positive recognition.

[chet]

The Shore itself is pretty great except for the waste of taxpayer money the Army Corps of Engineers has been doing for the past ten+ years. They keep spending millions of dollars pumping sand onto the beaches which gets washed back into the ocean every time there's a big storm.

I think they're getting ready to use the Stimulus money to do it again. Some job creation that is- might as well flush that money down a toilet.

[bobk]

ugh the annual bennie/staten island migration.........lol......staten islanders have become the WORST offenders to us locals........last couple of years its really peaked.....THOSE are the knuckleheads you see portrayed in that dopey show........hair sprayed,fist pumpin.......KNUCKLEHEADS...ugh....haaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaa

[777Brad]

Good memories of NJ
I used to gig in Asbury Park and around the area a lot back in the mid '80s with a reggae band called "Jah Love & the Survivors". I ended up there originally because I was in the U.S. Army Band stationed at Ft. Monmouth. Had a great time in the area. Jersey had an undeserved bad rep, IMO.

Originally Posted by Sea Level

i am absolutely taken with Sandy Hook, a Peninsula on the North end near New York harbor. We visited the old army base there.

They gave guided tours? We would jump the fence and go into the underground bunkers. Didn't look like anyone had been there in a very long time.

[chet]

Originally Posted by 777Brad

Good memories of NJ
I used to gig in Asbury Park and around the area a lot back in the mid '80s with a reggae band called "Jah Love & the Survivors". I ended up there originally because I was in the U.S. Army Band stationed at Ft. Monmouth. Had a great time in the area. Jersey had an undeserved bad rep, IMO.


They gave guided tours? We would jump the fence and go into the underground bunkers. Didn't look like anyone had been there in a very long time.

I'd walk by them in the dead of night on the way to fishing the Sandy Hook Point etc. . Talk about spooky!

I always fish alone and a lot of times thought I'd see something looking out of the doorways and windows of those bunkers...

[Sea Level]

"They gave guided tours? We would jump the fence and go into the underground bunkers. Didn't look like anyone had been there in a very long time."

Brad, they didn't have tours, we just walked around as the place was open, this was I think in late 2001. There seemed to be a minimal of activity going on with service personnel. We walked around and saw the old missile silos and bunkers. I guess the fort was a proving ground for various ammo as well as being a missile bass (Ajax missile era?). Sandy Hook is a strategic defense location being so close to NY and the waterfront. I guess it was an active fort back in the revolutionary war. My wife, who is an army brat tells stories of playing on the base with a bunch of kids playing what else but "army". We enjoyed the Sandy Hook beach as well during summer month vacations to family. My wife's father was also stationed at Fort Monmouth during the last stretch of his military career and the family retired in the area.

Oh, and get this, we used a picture of the light house from Sandy Hook on one of our CD's. i will try to get a pic to show on this thread.

[Sea Level]

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Sorry for hijacking the thread, but here are a couple of pics from Fort Sandy Hook on the Northern Jersey shore. I hope these links work.