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Tele-Holic
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Austin, TX
Age: 42
Posts: 646
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I need a capo that doesn't make everything go sharp...
...suggestions??? Currently using a Dunlop "Advanced Guitar Capo." I think the adjustments on these are just too coarse. It's either too loose, or it's strangling the neck and throwing everything sharp.
Gracias, amigos. Scott
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you need a Shubb capo - they make one special for Telecasters w/ 7" radius, and also other models for Strats and Gibsons etc. You set the tension with a thumb screw, and you can set it as light as you like. Absolutely essential piece of kit for a Tele-slinger.
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Tele-Afflicted
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Shubb!!!
IMHO...Those clothespin type thingies suck too!!! I HATE trying to work with another guitarist who is using one of those!! Kyser makes those...I think???
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Tele-Afflicted
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Toronto
Age: 47
Posts: 1,596
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If I have to capo, I'll use the shubb as well.
However, no capo is going to be perfect. You're still going to have to do a little retuning if you want thing to be as close to perfect as possible. A lot also depends upon your action. The farther you have to pull those strings, the sharper they're gonna be.
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Seattle
Posts: 6,107
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Seems ALL the singers I work with use the Kyser detuning device, which they humorously market as a "capo transposition device". I had to put my foot down and make them retune after each capo move. They were all surprised how out of tune they were.
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Tele-Afflicted
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Berlin, Germany
Age: 52
Posts: 1,586
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I use Shubb on my Teles and an old Wittner on my Dobro. just recently I ordered a shubb clone just because it was so cheap. like 3.95€ instead of 16,-€ for a shubb. the clone is a bit bigger in size but the design is clearly copied from shubb .....and, it doesn't work spot the difference
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Tele-Afflicted
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Too sharp an angle... but would it help to cut back some of the rubber closest to the angle?
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Friend of Leo's
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Rupert's Land
Age: 49
Posts: 2,050
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Shubb.
Simple, bombproof, works perfectly. As has been noted, they offer them to fit different types of guitars specifically. Including a wider 12 string capo, which works perfectly on my 7 string. Yay, Shubb!
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Tele-Meister
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Edison, NJ
Posts: 131
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I've used Kysers in the past, but I went shubb and never looked back.
Most capos I see are around $20 and I think, "Twenty bucks for THAT little thing?" But I've had my shubb for over 10 years and it is still going strong.
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Tele-Meister
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: MD
Posts: 432
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I had been using a brass Shubb for years and years. They work great and are a classic, timeless design, but not the best for quick changes. I use a capo a lot so last year I bought one of the Planet Waves Dual Action capos and I couldn't be happier. Works every bit as well as my Shubb, but is much more convenient for quick changes and easy to clip on the headstock to store it. Shubb is still an excellent choice though and are built to last.
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Tele-Holic
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: central ky
Age: 50
Posts: 738
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i recently bought a kyser, it's the only capo i've ever had that i like. it works fine on my 9.5 radius strat. as long as it's in tune to start with, it doesn't seem to me that they kyser throws it out of tune (unlike every other one i ever used.)
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Friend of Leo's
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Atlanta, Georgia
Age: 49
Posts: 4,169
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I have Shubb, Kyser, and G7th Performance capos currently. They all have their pros and cons. As to the best marriage of 'open string' response and reasonably accurate intonation, my current fave is the G7. I get the best open string ring from the Kyser, but the intonation is pretty lousy. I always seem to have plinky A string issues with Shubb, regardless of instrument setup, but the intonation is superb. All of that being said, there's no way I'm going to place a capo on an instrument without expecting to retune. It's a matter of degree and compromise.
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Tele-Meister
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Plymouth Meeting, PA
Age: 57
Posts: 318
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I have probably every type of capo made and the Shubb works very well, however it is not made for quick changing. It takes two hands to place it accurately unless you have lots of time. I use the Dunlop trigger on all my electrics if I need a capo because it is not so strong it pulls the strings down behind the fret causing them to go out of tune.
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In my other life I play bluegrass guitar.
I have become a capo slut. Shubbs work very well. Have to store them in a pocket when not in use. "Paige" type capos can be stored over the nut when not in use. Guess which one I us? Paige has a new one called the "Click." It can actually be positioned and tightened with one hand. I was skeptical at first, but I stuck with it and am not a believer. As for tuning...how you position any capo and how tight you make it will have a great impact upon how much touching up will be needed. A capo is just like any other tool/instrument in that you need to learn how it operates and get some practice with it.
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Tele-Afflicted
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Toronto
Age: 47
Posts: 1,596
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I play bluegrass as well -both banjo, and guitar. A capo is essential for both instruments to get those 'position' licks. No capo is perfect, and one has to know how to use it properly to minimize the headaches. I use shubbs on both, however, I might look into the new Paige...
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TDPRI Member
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Grand Rapids, Ohio
Posts: 94
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I use a Shubb for all of the strings and a keyser for my partial capo. Sometimes I use them both at the same time. There was a definite learning process in regards to figuring out how to slap a capo on w/out mucking up the tuning.
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Tele-Meister
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Washington, DC
Age: 45
Posts: 153
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Yep. Get it right there behind the fret and it will work a lot more efficiently. I've been using Kysers for years with minimal retuning issues. I like the Dunlop Victor too, but it's slow to put on and take off.
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Tele-Afflicted
Join Date: May 2005
Location: CHICAGO, IL.
Posts: 1,114
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I prefer the "Bird of Paradise" capo. Works great and it's "cute."
http://www.birdcapo.com/home.html |
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Tele-Meister
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I'm surprised this thread got this far without mention of the Planet Waves NS capo, which I've understood is quite popular. I used a Kyser for many years until I tried the NS capo and it works really well for me, it solved the tuning issue I had with the Kyser. It works exactly the same as the Victor but it's much lighter, which I like.
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Friend of Leo's
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I'm a Shubbs guy but as Tim says, "you gotta re-tune a little no matter what".
I have one electric guitar that I primarily only play capo'd at the 1st fret (and sometimes the 3rd fret). I had my tech intonate it and set it up with the capo on the 1st fret. Along with careful capo placement this refinement helped to minimize my re-tuning issues. YMMV. |
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Tele-Holic
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I had this problem last year.
Then I quit the country band. But seriously, no capo is perfect, even the best will throw you off a little, unless your action is really low and it perfectly matches the fretboard radius.
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Tele-Afflicted
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Berlin, Germany
Age: 52
Posts: 1,586
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Have a look at 232 different capos at the Capo Museum.
quite interesting, imo. http://web.telia.com/~u86505074/capo...index.htm#menu |
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Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Fort Worth
Age: 28
Posts: 8
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If you already have some type of "quick change" trigger capo you can use a rubber band around the trigger (both arms/the part you squeeze) to help counter the strength of the spring. With a little experimentation you can make the tension of a Kyser or Dunlop perfect. Worth trying if you already have something...
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Friend of Leo's
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Atlanta, Georgia
Age: 49
Posts: 4,169
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I used a G7th for last night's show (on a high-string guitar, this time around) but I retuned after placement, same as always.
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