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I just want to come clean and admit I was wrong. I called Yankees and Phils back when the playoffs started... but I called Yanks in 5... please excuse my error. I will do better next time.
(kneeling to ask Eddie for a favor) "Dear Eddie in your cozy coop.. please let the Giants pick up two reliable bats this off season. Next year, please let it Giants Yankees in the world series so that I'll get to see the two greatest teams (along with the Tokyo Giants) ever conceived. Eddie, I don't mean to wish too much ill, but please let Andre Ethier and that Kemp guy decide they hate LA and they can get traded because the dodger divorce gets expensive... let manny go crazy and demand a trip back to cleveland where he can wander the expanses of the jake with the ghost of Joey nee Albert Belle.... And Eddie, thanks again for Lincecum and Sandoval... also, thanks for not making ex Giants suck too much in the public eye and actually do some nice things (Feliz, Torrealba)... for the love of eddie... bring us one more world series! Congrats Yanks! Nice way to break in the new park!
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Who are them yankees?
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Some of us had the Yanks at six games. Great series, esp. that last game, for NY. I am kinda relieved that the Yankees did not demolish two SoCal teams in a row. |
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: New Orleans, LA + in the past
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I used to love the New York Yankees
Then, Thurman Munson was killed in a plane crash in 1979. It broke my heart. I've never cared really to see a Yankees game since. It isn't the same, and you older guys know what I mean. R.I.P., Thurman Munson.
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Join Date: Jun 2007
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Most of those stats and anecdots that they use come from the crew in the background. No way they can remember all that..
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Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: FT Benning GA
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Rooney,
Thanks much..as a die hard Yankees fan I will say I genuinely appreciated the Phillies...I was not able to sit easy at all during this series..the fear that the Phillies would rally was constantly on my mind...they played a good series...hats off to them! |
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Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: EN JAY
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I was sorry to see the Phils lose. But somebody had to.
I don't hate the Yankees like a lot of people do. I was born in Trenton NJ & some of my early baseball memories were of Mantle & Marris. But I've been a Phillies fan for 45 years & stuck with them through a lot of lean years. It was nice to see them play in 2 straight series for the first time. The Yankees have the best team in baseball. Sure they pay the biggest salaries to be the best team. But they make the most money because they are the best team. At least they put money into the team instead of just into Steinbrenner's pocket (Not that he doesn't take his fair share).
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Here is trivia---> Thurman Munson and Joe Walsh drummer Joe Vitale played in the same little league and were good childhood friends... how about this (unrelated piece of trivia) Tommy Bolin and Stanley Sheldon (the bass player on Frampton Comes Alive) are cousins! and Stanley got the gig through Tommy. If you want to read a really cool book get the Joe Vitale biography... really fun and interesting and talk about filling in gaps about who was who and how they were connected and not a bunch of dirt or whining like the Felder book... just how the bands got formed and shaped etc... a couple of funny Henley stories too.... Boris, I have little doubt that Thurman would be happy for the Yanks.... I can remember the heated arguments about who was better Fisk or Munson which were always cut short with a short, terse and complete answer: Bench. Most people don't know that Bench fundamentally changed catching.... trivia: in what way? (and no bringing up his wedding night story either.)
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: New Orleans, LA + in the past
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I got to see Johnny catch a couple of games against the Columbus Jets. Good hitter. (Buffalo Bisons)
These memories come roaring back; the smell of relish on a hot dog. I sat on a newspaper and got ink on my pants. Last week I'm not sure I'd have remembered that.
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How do you know which guy at the aquarium is having sex with the octopi? He's the one with ink on his pants. (I don't have it exactly right... but, you get the idea...)
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Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Atlanta, Georgia
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Congrats to Joe Girardi and the New York Yankees on their 27th World Championship. Congrats to Charlie Manuel and the Philadelphia Phillies on an excellent season. I watched every single game. It was professional baseball at its finest. Can't wait for next season.
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Join Date: Mar 2004
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I guess I'm a freak. But I'm almost always happy for whoever wins a championship.
Usually, they win it because they worked hard & deserve it. I would have loved to see the Phillies win again because they are my favorite team. But there ya go. I'm happy for the Yankees. I was happy for the Red Sox when they won it. I don't really care much about rivalries in any sport. I just appreciate seeing the game (any game) played well. I feel a little sorry for Charlie Manuel because not only did he lose the series...But earlier this year, he lost his other TV gig when they cancelled King of The Hill. Hey man...Dangol'toobad'boutyerdangol'TV show. I tell you what.Dangol' FOX.
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Join Date: Feb 2007
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Lifelong Phillies Phan here! Congrats Yankees! They were the better team this year. I am hoping for a rematch next year!
Living in the Wilkes-Barre PA area, we are the home of the Baby Yankees and were the home of the Baby Phils for many years. 19 of the players in this years World Series passed through our neck of the woods to get to the bigs. That made it even more fun this year. See you next year! Dan
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Sorry, just want to add two things I forgot to mention.
1. Congrats to the Phillies and their fans. They are a very good team and had a great season. 2. I saw camera cuts to Kate Hudson at Yankee Stadium during the games in New York but don’t recall seeing any shots of Minka Kelly. So here is our ‘Lyla’ fix for the day:
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Join Date: Mar 2003
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Aren't they supposed to?
I don't hate the Yankees but I don't understand rooting for them either, unless you are local and that is the laundry you are supposed to root for. I realize that they are not technically cheating, but clearly the deck is stacked in their favor. I reminds me of high school and going over to house where the kid had a pool table, wasn't he supposed to win?
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Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: New Haven, CT
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all of this cheating talk undermines the fact that the Yankees paid over $140 million dollars in luxury taxes to OTHER MLB TEAMS!
everyone profits from the Yankees...when do games sell out? when the Yankees are in town! they have a superior TV network (YES...worth over 1 billion dollars) a fantastic NEW ballpark (with direct train service to and from CT during home games) granted A-Rod did admit to being a douche bag...but you know what?...he copped to it when he could have just pulled a Barry Bonds or Roger Clemens and lied... i understand animosity for A-Rod...thats ok...he is a lightning rod for controversy and everyone knows it...including himself which is why this year was HUGE for him...he is finally comfortable in his own skin...took him long enough! how can anyone here...or anyone in BASEBALL for that matter...not be impressed with Derek Jeter...all of these cheater comments...what is this based on? jealousy? hatred? confusion? if anyone is immune from the Yankee Hate that so easily spreads all around the country it has to be Derek Jeter...the man is a stand up guy and always has been! he played for America during the WBC (a-rod played for the dominican...why? he is an american citizen!) every player on any team would love to play with Jeter... the man exudes class, and exemplifies sportsmanship! i dont think there is anyone in the game that doesnt like Jeter except for jealous fans for other teams! what coach in the MLB wouldnt want to have him as the leader of the clubhouse? name one? all of this talk about the Yankees buying championships...its not relevant...they spent the most money...sure...but they didnt win this year cause they spent the most money...they won cause they spent the smartest money...this years off season is not going to have the same talent pool as last years which is why Cashman went on a shopping spree...he knew that best bang for the buck would only happen last year! plus they reduced their payroll from 08 by like 20 million dollars...they were dollar for dollar the most efficient team in baseball...and even Yankee hating ESPN recognizes that! also New York is a major market with double the sports teams of most major cities...(LA excluded) they reach millions and millions of more people than lets say Cincinnati...but on the flip side...smaller markets are more forgiving of their talent than NY is...if you screw up youre done! Boston is no saint in all of this...they are no longer the lovable losers they were 10-15 years ago... they are a legitimate powerhouse...they may have changed the landscape of baseball completely with their management and front office staff! they fall short year after year on top prospects...**COUGH COUGH TEXEIRA...but they only fall short a few million dollars...when it comes to pulling the trigger they dont get it done on the marquis players...yet they are still able to compete and compete at the highest level every year...remember when the Yanks were 8 games behind them this year? what they lack is the confidence in knowing they are the best team in Baseball which is why the Yankees had the most walk off wins of the year...most come from behind wins of the year...and the largest/deepest bullpen in baseball! there im done...i feel better getting this all off my chest...and to the haters out there...STEP YOUR GAMES UP! **on a sad side note...my love for NY sports and all things New England ends with Baseball and my UConn Huskies...sadly I am also a RAIDERS fan and watching them over the past few years makes me seriously consider quitting football fandom! |
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My dad loved Mickey Mantle and Willie Mays. I grew up thinking of San Francisco and New York as the two greatest cities in the country and when we traveled to them....it was magic. The Giants and Yanks were both originally from NY and I had a fascination with that. In my early childhood there was no major league team for hundreds of miles... so... we were huge Mantle/Yankees and Mays/Giants fans. That makes sense, right? As for the kid with the pool table... I used to kick his ass because he took it for granted. here are the homegrown yankees: Jeter, Posada, Pettite, Cano, Gardner, Chamberlain, Hughes, and RIVERA. They were clearly key players in the series. I'd argue that on paper the Phillies had more talent.. who were their 'store bought' players? Lee, Werth, Feliz, Martinez etc... what impact did they have on the series? The Phillies are a great team and will be back next year with a healthy Lidge and Hamels and the result will likely be different. They are a large market team too... but, the last few years have taught us that the market size matters, but does not eliminate really good teams. Kansas City has had poor management for years and the results speak for themselves... there are inequities to be sure, but the whole argument against the yankees is just sour grapes. They have wasted a lot of money on guys who turned out could not handle the spotlight... pavano, hello? I applaud teams whose ownership genuinely tries to put the best team on the field that they can. The Angels are to be applauded (even if I don't like them)... the Dodgers (ugh) as well. Teams like the Rockies have drafted well and developed some great players and held on to them... and so on... The way that the tigers have been able to get players is something to be proud of... not many guys really want to play in Detroit, but they've made it work... and the Twins? Wow! There are many ways to success, just having money really does help, but Texeira went to the Yankees for much the same reason as Arod... they wanted to wear pinstripes. I"m no Dallas Cowboys fan, but I can completely understand it when I'm in rural Nebraska and I see cowboys stuff... they have a mystique.. When I read of Joel Terry loving the Miami Dolphins, I get that... especially considering that when he formed that love for that team there probably wasn't a Nashville area NFL team. with such a fluid and transitory pace of life in the US it is becoming rare to meet someone who was born, raised and lives in the same geo for their whole lives... one of my friends has lived in 6 or 7 major cities in his adult life and he told me "I usually just root for the local team... although (he is from Anaheim) I always kind of root for the Angels and the Rams (even though the Rams are long gone from LA)" things are never simple...when they are, it usually means we don't fully understand them.
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I love the idea of dynasties and dominant teams. I love it when a sport has one team that everyone else loves to beat. Parity is vastly overrated. The Yankees, the Lakers and 90's Bulls, the Detroit Red Wings and the 70's Montreal Canadiens, Liverpool and Manchester - these teams create added drama whenever they play. When the Red Wings come to town, games sell out. We want to see them go down. But we also thrill to see those stars.
Dynasties set the standard by which everyone else is measured, and when they fall on hard times, the sport loses a little lustre. When there is no dominant team season after season, the sport loses that extra challenge. For example, do the currently undefeated New Orleans Saints create an extra buzz when they come to town? Do the Colts or the Patriots? Of course, no team can be dominant forever, but I much prefer when one dynasty is replaced by another. Canadiens - Islanders - Oilers. So, thank-you Yankees, for bringing that added edge to every road game. Let's face it, when the Yankees come to town, it's a lot different than when the Pirates come to town. |
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Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: central New Jersey
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Watching the parade...
As I sit here and watch the parade on TV, I'm reminded of yet another sentimental reason I'm attached to the Yankees winning. The last time they won was 2000. At that time I worked at the WTC and went outside for a bit to experience the parade. Couldn't see a damn thing but it was the epitome of excitement to be in the mix. Eventually my friends and I went down to the bar in the concourse to watch the rest of the parade. 2001, the series was a mere few months after 9/11. Needless to say things were not at all the same. I wanted us to win if for no other reason to help get the city back to "normal". I had many co-worker friends who were Yankee fans who died on that day. And we lost. I kind of started to lose interest in following games since then, I'm not saying it was the main reason because I'm not a huge sports fan in general, but I know it was part of it.
Now it's 9 years later. The city (the country, the world...etc) is in various states of distress for many reasons. But the parade, seeing millions of fans celebrating, seeing the leaders of the city join in, the team and all their workers/families, etc., all of this has the amazing feeling that we've finally made our way back to being a city of togetherness for whatever the cause. It makes me feel like it's a new beginning, especially since it's also the first year in the new stadium. And maybe just maybe, other things will start to change in a favorable way too. |
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I hope there aren't any Mets fans aren't out there. I can't be happy for Alex Roid-rigez and the Yank-Mees.
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Pot meet Kettle. The Mets have Radomski to own.... Keith Hernandez admitted he used. Get over it Chet.... There is no clean team... be a mets fan, they are a great franchise that had too many injuries this year... but, they don't wear white hats and the other guys wear black....
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There is one thing that 27 rings, $17 Trillion dollars in salary, and the best players money cannot buy will never erase...
And that is the 2004 Tankjob with a 3-0 stranglehold on the ALCS. No team in the history of the game ever blew a 3-0 lead to watch it evaporate into a series defeat. And no team in history ever had it happen against a team that they despise more than any other team in the league. So while the tradition of winning and all that goes with it is great, that footnote to history can never, ever be changed. The asterisk next to the pinstripes is the biggest choke in the history of sports. Period. syf
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I noticed he hit 35 HR's with 99 RBI this year... Which is more than everyone on the Yankees with the exception of Teixeira.
So yeah, I noticed that. syf
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I gotta think that it might be good for the sox to stink for a few years just to slough off all the front runner fans across the country. It is pathetic to see all the sox gear from pretend fans... they annoy you guys too, right? I was just in texas and saw a couple of these bean st. wannabees and I just rolled my eyes... it is true that they only real baseball in texas is in the texas league, but good lord... btw, I love Papi roids or not... and Pedroia is the sox equivalent of Jeter... what a player. I want to hate youklis, but he plays as hard as anyone I've ever seen and your little centerfielder is welcome in SF anytime to take that over for us. I will enjoy watching the Yankees crush the sox... for god sakes... humiliate those florida teams (who shouldn't exist)...
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Join Date: Mar 2008
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Hey Bent.
I know man, when my favorite team hits the exits early in the playoffs, I feel a civic duty to at least throw rocks at the Yankee parade as it passes by the pub. I have to do it you know. I may have a strong sense of hate towards the "Yankees" but being a baseball player, and I know you as well donned the spikes in your days, I cannot hate the players. Jeter to me is about as classy as they come. I can tell you if there is one guy I hate up at the plate when the game is on the line, it is that guy. He plays hard, hustles, and is the epitome of what Yankee Fans should try to emulate. Same with Mo. When that guy gets on the bump, it is pretty much all she wrote. He is flat out nasty. Therein lies the problem. I love the players for what they are and how they play. I don't like the quirks of some of the guys, I think Swisher is copping for the camera with his gestures and his goofy looks, and I am not sure I would enjoy tilting a beer back with him. Tex seems like a gamer, and his only real fault is that he is a Yankee. Sour grapes and all, I would want that guy on my favorite team if they could have afforded it, but alas, I am left to lament what could have been. I love great baseball and great baseball players. But when I was an infant, and my Grandfather sent me my first onesie and little RedSox unis,( a product of his attending Harvard Law and falling in love with the team he used to refer to as the Crimson Hose) I was programmed to hate the Yankees. It is just the way it has to be. syf
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The only folks excused from frontrunning are little kids. In any event, I won't mind if the sox go back to what used to be called 'the second division' I've done my time wearing the hat of a losing team... lets just see if I see so many sox hats when they suck (worse than they do now)
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