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Old October 9th, 2009, 05:29 PM   #161 (permalink)
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I saw this thread a while ago and I stayed away from the bickering and harsh judgements, simply because I hadn't seen the movie.

Well, I saw the movie last night and it was freakin' GREAT! Cool music, cool musicians, cool guitars. I can't begin to understand how any musician or gearhead or artist who hangs out on an internet forum like this not be interested in this movie.

Jimmy Page was even more awe-inspiring than I thought he would be, Jack White stole the movie and I left with a really positive impression of the Edge. In fact, the Edge comes off looking the best in this movie: he's honest, down to earth, funny, intelligent and more than holds his own when jamming with the others. Watching footage of him strumming the intro to "Where the Streets Have No Name" in front of a crowd of tens of thousands of rabid fans in a soccer stadium jumping in unison gave me goose bumps and made me realize why he, perhaps more than the others, is worthy of being in this movie. His music moves people in a visceral, emotional, almost religious way. And I say this as a Zep and White Stripes fan.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but not if you haven't seen the movie. Go watch it if you haven't and come back to us and say that so-and-so sucks. Seriously, you're missing something if you don't. Is it perfect? No. I agree with comments about the hugfest at the end of "The Weight" and Jack White's childish statements, but I still found it amusing and fun. It was really funny to see 3 guitar greats trying to figure out the chord changes to a famous song and get it wrong. Even cooler to see them show each other their riffs, shows you that learning guitar is a never ending journey.

Be warned: you might get GAS watching this movie. I want the Edge's Explorer, Jimmy Page's p90 hollowbody with single cutaway and gold hardware (E55?), and Jack White's Gretsch.

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Old October 9th, 2009, 05:32 PM   #162 (permalink)
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I saw this thread a while ago and I stayed away from the bickering and harsh judgements, simply because I hadn't seen the movie.

Well, I saw the movie last night and it was freakin' GREAT! Cool music, cool musicians, cool guitars. I can't begin to understand how any musician or gearhead or artist who hangs out on an internet forum like this not be interested in this movie.

Jimmy Page was even more awe-inspiring than I thought he would be, Jack White stole the movie and I left with a really positive impression of the Edge. In fact, the Edge comes off looking the best in this movie: he's honest, down to earth, funny, intelligent and more than holds his own when jamming with the others. Watching footage of him strumming the intro to "Where the Streets Have No Name" in front of a crowd of tens of thousands of rabid fans in a soccer stadium jumping in unison gave me goose bumps and made me realize why he, perhaps more than the others, is worthy of being in this movie. His music moves people in a visceral, emotional, almost religious way. And I say this as a Zep and White Stripes fan.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but not if you haven't seen the movie. Go watch it if you haven't and come back to us and say that so-and-so sucks. Seriously, you're missing something if you don't. Is it perfect? No. I agree with comments about the hugfest at the end of "The Weight" and Jack White's childish statements, but I still found it amusing and fun. It was really funny to see 3 guitar greats trying to figure out the chord changes to a famous song and get it wrong. Even cooler to see them show each other their riffs, shows you that learning guitar is a never ending journey.

Be warned: you might get GAS watching this movie. I want the Edge's Explorer, Jimmy Page's p90 hollowbody with single cutaway and gold hardware (E55?), and Jack White's Gretsch.
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Old October 9th, 2009, 08:02 PM   #163 (permalink)
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All of the Page-Edge-White bashing here is interesting in light of the way the film was constructed - in the beginning of the film, the Edge bashed what Jimmy Page was doing when he was complaining about all of the 15 minute guitar solos in the 70s and how U2 were totally NOT about that, Jack White slagged the Edge by stating "I can't think of anything that can crush creativity more than technology" and Page saying that LZ's critics just didn't understand what they were doing out there - they didn't "get it."

Yet they were able to sit down with each other and explore the creative process, their influences, play some music, explain their viewpoints and musical perspectives and explore the creative process. Lots of respect and open minds once they were in the room together.

And we *finally* got the see the hallway at Headley Grange where Bonzo recorded the drums on "When the Levee Breaks".

The greatest moment in the film for me was Jimmy Page exhibiting his awe and love for, after 51 years(!), Link Wray's "Rumble," playing air guitar to it with a huge smile on his face, knowing the little nuances of the song - it was like he was 14 years old again.
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Old October 9th, 2009, 08:30 PM   #164 (permalink)
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The greatest moment in the film for me was Jimmy Page exhibiting his awe and love for, after 51 years(!), Link Wray's "Rumble," playing air guitar to it with a huge smile on his face, knowing the little nuances of the song - it was like he was 14 years old again.
I gotta see this movie! That right there, the little 14 year old Jimmy Page, standing in front of his mums mirror, raging on air-guitar, popped in to say, "I'm still here!"

Me and my internal 14 year old wanna go see this flick!
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Old October 14th, 2009, 05:50 PM   #165 (permalink)
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If you are a drummer, your primary function is to keep time. She fails.

There's nothing "blues" about playing poorly, and there are plenty of punk bands that can play well. Meg White is simply not a good drummer. It doesn't bother me, I simply choose not to listen to most of the White Stripes music.

So saying someone doesn't know anything about blues or punk because they recognize Meg White as being a lousy drummer is a bit ridiculous, don't you think?
If you had ever seen the White Stripes live, you'd know that 1) in a two-piece volume, authority and charisma can substitute for timekeeping (the old blues guys did that all the time) 1) Meg White kicks ass.

She had THE best (un-effected) snare and kick sounds I'd ever heard live.

And Keith Richards agrees with me and so do Jeff Beck and Steve Jordan.
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Old October 14th, 2009, 06:00 PM   #166 (permalink)
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...1) in a two-piece volume, authority and charisma can substitute for timekeeping (the old blues guys did that all the time) 1) Meg White kicks ass...
While I do agree with you, I hope you're not the drummer who can't count
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Old October 14th, 2009, 06:11 PM   #167 (permalink)
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If you had ever seen the White Stripes live, you'd know that 1) in a two-piece volume, authority and charisma can substitute for timekeeping (the old blues guys did that all the time) 1) Meg White kicks ass.

She had THE best (un-effected) snare and kick sounds I'd ever heard live.

And Keith Richards agrees with me and so do Jeff Beck and Steve Jordan.
The day I look to Keef as the standard of time keeping...

All kidding aside, I have no hate for Meg White, and I get the White Stripes "act", I simply don't enjoy her drumming, or think she's a good drummer. It's just my opinion.
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The movie was so-so. A few too many boring moments and rockumentary cliches. Still, I don't think you can bad mouth any of its three subjects too much.

Page came off as having an absolutely winning personality, very enthusiastic and very different from his public image. You could hear how the sloppy offbeatness of his playing merged with the Zep mojo. And I guarantee you that the way he plays the "Whole Lotta Love" riff is not the way that any cover band has ever played it in the last 40 years. The best part of that movie was watching Jack White and the Edge grinning like schoolkids while he played that riff right in front of them.

Jack White, although sometimes affected, seemed like the most commanding musician of the three - the one most likely to be able to play just about any song at any time and sound like he knew what he was doing. He also brings a lot of intensity to the music & he sounded pretty great to me for most of the movie. I especially liked it when he took his #1 White Stripes stage guitar, plugged it into Big Muff and an amp, had a 9-year-old kid step on the neck, and told him how good it sounded. It did sound ok too.

The Edge seemed a little ill matched with the other two because he doesn't play blues and folk-based music and because he has a more ponderous personality and a slower style of working. But the dude does seem to work his ass off. He needs a guitar tech to help him practice because he has so many buttons and he uses each one, and each riff has to sound perfect to him.

Anyway, despite its slight boringness, the movie gave a pretty unique insight into the way those three guys, each of whom has strong and weak points, operate.
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While I do agree with you, I hope you're not the drummer who can't count
Geez no, I'm a guitar player. If I were a drummer, I'd be able to count to 2.
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I especially liked it when he took his #1 White Stripes stage guitar, plugged it into Big Muff and an amp, had a 9-year-old kid step on the neck, and told him how good it sounded.
LOVED that part too.
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As someone who bleeds at the slightest touch, I enjoyed seeing Jack White bleed all over his new Gretsch. Not as physical as Pete Townshend, but bloodier.
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Old October 28th, 2009, 03:24 PM   #172 (permalink)
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Hard to believe, but the movie is actually playing in Yakima, not a noted hotbed of culture or rock and roll. Saw it, liked it, Jimmy was cool in a sort of retired way, Jack White a bit over the top in his vintage thing, and yes, Edge comes off as a nice guy. If you listen to modern country, which I try to avoid, I'd say Edge has the biggest influence. Every other record seems to have the chinga, chinga, chinga background that U2 pioneered.
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Geez no, I'm a guitar player. If I were a drummer, I'd be able to count to 2.
Do you think if someone asked Springsteen to count to 10 that he'd go: "one, two, three, four, one, two, three, four, one, two!"?
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The greatest moment in the film for me was Jimmy Page exhibiting his awe and love for, after 51 years(!), Link Wray's "Rumble," playing air guitar to it with a huge smile on his face, knowing the little nuances of the song - it was like he was 14 years old again.
Yep, that was very cool. Here's this 65 year old guy who's had decades of all this mysterious air about him of dark, satanic stuff, and he's playing air guitar to Link Wray and grinning like a kid on Christmas morning.

I liked all the players for various reasons, though White's obsession over old beat up instruments and bleeding on them, and the whole "tortured artiste" persona almost seems a bit pretentious and put-on, in a way. But I like his approach anyway.

Edge seems very down to Earth, and while I'm not an effects fan at all, he does his thing VERY well.
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in terms of influence, u2, along with REM and the cure, legitimized college radio. Without specificaly U2, the non traditional, or "alternative" rock genre would never haev gotten the push it did. Radiohead, coldplay, jeff buckley, nirvana and many other could very well have been viewed as fringe acts with little marketability, but because u2 proved that alternative could sell in massive numbers, record companies looked at them in another light. Part of the reason u2 haev never had the album sales or mass love of some other bands is because u2 are essentially the biggest alternative/indie act ever. led zeppelin, the beatles, the stones, the who... they were all traditional (in the loosest sense of the word) rock acts with immensely broad, blues based appeal. that's not the case for u2.
I won't bag on U2, not a fan but I don't hate them, but alternative!! I grew up on MTV from the beginning, and they were always there (or at least very early on). Not as popular at first sure, but nowhere near "alternative". You can't argue their college radio affiliation, but alternative started from a somewhat underground origin, and U2 has always been very mainstream. Sorry to nitpick, this comment just seemed very funny to me.
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I won't bag on U2, not a fan but I don't hate them, but alternative!! I grew up on MTV from the beginning, and they were always there (or at least very early on). Not as popular at first sure, but nowhere near "alternative". You can't argue their college radio affiliation, but alternative started from a somewhat underground origin, and U2 has always been very mainstream. Sorry to nitpick, this comment just seemed very funny to me.
their beginnings were post punk alternative rock. go listen to "boy." thats like the definition of alternative. considering they aren't blues based, solo infused rock also would classify them as alternative.
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That would be Jack BLACK, not Jack WHITE...
Which would have made a much interesting inclusion, IMO.

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