"It Might Get Loud" . . . just saw it !!!

[stevieboy]

Legend--I was at two baseball games in two different ballparks about a week apart a couple of years ago. One night, Joe Walsh sang the National Anthem. "And now, to sing the national anthem, rock and roll legend Joe Walsh!" Next night, "And now, to sing the national anthem, rock and roll legend Eddie Money!" You can make your own judgement about which guy might be a legend, but on those particular nights, it was the guy who was there. Probably the same with this movie. The ones in the movie are legends.

If you think that's a knock on Jack, he's actually the only one of three that I like.

[Post Toastie]

Who is the Number 2 band that is out of new York?
-The Ramones?
-The Dictators?
-The Dead Boys?
-the New York Dolls?
Come on who is it?

[kerc]

I dunno what's the deal with finding who was "worthy" of being in the movie. Guys, take it for what it is, a movie about guys that love music and their medium happens to be the guitar.

Go watch it, without prejudices, and just enjoy it.

[garytelecastor]

Originally Posted by T_red7882

I don't see why so many people care who is and isn't in this movie. its a documentary about the guitar and the creative process... whats not to love? the useless hating that goes on on this forum is astounding.

Well, we can't all be as enlightened as you.

[Derek McNelly]

Originally Posted by hou35male

Well, your old enough to know, but I won't say the name of the group that is only second to Elvis Presley in Gold and Platinum sales, and it's not Micheal or U2!!! BTW, they are from New York. They have been together since 1973!!!! Alot longer than 30 years with U2!?!?!

Since 1973?

Well, Journey's from Frisco, so they're out.

Who is it?

[TG]

Originally Posted by Derek McNelly

Since 1973?

Well, Journey's from Frisco, so they're out.

Who is it?

I suspect it's Kiss (who formed late 1972, BTW).

[PeteMac]

In answer to Boubou's question:- Y'know, there isn't a whole lotta music in this. Certainly not complete songs.
It really is more of a study on creativity, and the circumstances that surround it (tools, location, etc.)
But it is quite funny, and there were plenty of laugh out loud moments.
. . . and the opening scene where Jack is making a slide "guitar" out of a plank of wood and a Coke bottle, and literally nailing the thing together with a hammer ( including the pickup !) would almost be worth the price of the DVD ! And his comment when it was finished and had been plugged in; "who needs to buy a guitar?" !

[El Tedesco]

Originally Posted by TG

I suspect it's Kiss (who formed late 1972, BTW).

Wuuh, who would have thought!? Good call.

[jjkrause84]

Originally Posted by PeteMac

In answer to Boubou's question:- Y'know, there isn't a whole lotta music in this. Certainly not complete songs.
It really is more of a study on creativity, and the circumstances that surround it (tools, location, etc.)
But it is quite funny, and there were plenty of laugh out loud moments.
. . . and the opening scene where Jack is making a slide "guitar" out of a plank of wood and a Coke bottle, and literally nailing the thing together with a hammer ( including the pickup !) would almost be worth the price of the DVD ! And his comment when it was finished and had been plugged in; "who needs to buy a guitar?" !

Gotta love an old-fashioned Diddley Bo. Do they explain at all where it comes from? My guess is alot of the non-musician audience might not know and be interested

[Post Toastie]

Originally Posted by El Tedesco

Wuuh, who would have thought!? Good call.

Kiss isn't even ahead of Guns and Roses in total album sales and lots of bands have way more sales.
GnR 90 miliion world wide
43 million USA
Kiss
80 million world wide
19 million USA

Gold and Platnum sales is a Joke.

[jmaul]

Originally Posted by Post Toastie

Who is the Number 2 band that is out of new York?
-The Ramones?
-The Dictators?
-The Dead Boys?
-the New York Dolls?
Come on who is it?

The Dead Boys were from ohio. Ohio references are in a heck of a lot of their lyrics too. Though yes, they were part of the NY scene.

Prince lives in LA now. That doesn't mean he's not from Minneapolis.

[Wayne Alexander]

I saw the movie over this weekend, with my non-guitar-playing and not-particularly-interested-in-guitarists wife. I loved the movie, she liked it a lot. I think the choice of the three guitarists was inspired - each represents a completely different approach to the instrument. Jimmy Paige came up as a technically superb player who was the featured guitarist in a couple of light pop bands and then the Yardbirds, then went into the studio as a session musician for everything from forgettable light pop ditties to Muzak, then took that formidable skill and applied it to LZ. Edge has figured out how to make interesting and massive sounds using a mountain of effects, often building from stripped-down chord voices and arpeggios. No one before him played the way he does, he revolutionized how to use a guitar in a band. Jack White is a primitivist, very much focused on early emotional blues, whose favorite recorded song is a Son House record with only a voice and hand clapping (which fills a barn with sound and emotion easily). There's a lot in the movie about the creative process, and some great stuff for equipment geeks, and a close up look at JP's hands doing some iconic LZ stuff. What's not to like, especially for any of you who come to this forum?

[davidge1]

I just saw it yesterday. I thought it was REALLY great.

Whether or not Jack White is a "legend", or whether or not The Edge fits in is totally beside the point... and if you see the movie, you'll understand why each was chosen and how well it all fits together.

It's more than just representing three generations of music... it shows how each player almost personifies the trend towards approaching the guitar of their own era: Jimmy Page expanding the musical boundries and exploiting loud amplification and distortion, The Edge using the punk and post-punk trend towards simplicity, combined with exploiting all the 80s effect technology, and Jack White representing the backlash at all that slick technology...using weird old junky guitars and amps to create a primitive sound. None of the three actually were the first or only guitarist to do what they did, but each of them probably represents those things better than anyone else. Beyond all of that, the three of them were obviously so in love with the actual equipment... the guitars and amps and effects themselves... and much of what they did creatively came about as a direct result of that.

You can palpably feel the moment of, "Oh my God - we are here and Jimmy Page is playing THE riff !!! "

That was exactly what I was thinking when I saw that... it was also one of my favorite scenes, along with the scene of Jimmy Page putting on his 45 of Rumble by Link Wray. You could see by his face that when he's listening to it he's like a kid again, feeling that same excitement. I guess no matter who you are, those things never go away!

[sbpirate]

How does it compare to "the Last Waltz"

[fendorst]

Why not Boz Scaggs, Debbie Harry and the guitar player for whatever midwestern indie band releases a debut album on their MySpace page this week? Call the movie "It Might Get Lousy."

[sixstringbastard]

No blatant overdubs, no Robbie Robertson mugging for the camera and no coked up mistakes.

Originally Posted by sbpirate

How does it compare to "the Last Waltz"

[sbpirate]

Isn't that called Rock & Roll???

[sixstringbastard]

I love The Band but The Last Waltz can be painful to watch

[Nighthawk]

I read an article in the NYTIMES about a week ago or so about this movie. It was not strictly speaking a review. The article said they wanted to span time and that Led Zep was their jump off point. The inclusion of the Edge was to show the reaction to Led Zep by the next new thing and the inclusion of White was to show the reaction to U2 by the newer next new thing. For the summit they were hoping for some tension between the three but in fact all three were drawn to each other, constantly, which would be very interesting to see. Its not a play off but rather a coming together and coming together in a way that only guitar players can understand, assuming they have open minds.

Based on this, I find much of the negative commentary in this thread about one player or another to be just so much sour grapes. If Jimmy Paige can find common ground with the Edge and Jack White and vice versa, why can't you? You know who you are.

[Boubou]

Originally Posted by Nighthawk

If Jimmy Paige can find common ground with the Edge and Jack White and vice versa, why can't you?

MMMHHH !maybe it is time for a signature change, this would do nicely.
Anyways the movie is not showing here yet, looking forward to seeing it.

[Twangmeister]

Just got back from Hollyweird after seeing IMGL and thoroughly enjoyed it. It's a great statement about the joy of creative discovery and the zen of making music, trying to be in a perfect moment. There's plenty of gear in the pictures, but these guys are clearly more intrigued by pushing themselves developmentally than by straight vs. coil cords. Although each clearly has a love affair with all aspects of the guitar, I think the subtext of the film is that the gear is simply a collection of tools to finding It, whatever It turns out to be. It'll certainly make you wanna pick up your guitar and PLAY......

[Skully]

U2 obviously came in at the right time, when 'music videos' were starting to sprout all over the landscape, which greatly supported their venture, as their sound is very favorable to the creation of visual support and most of their tracks were probably designed to hit the market together with a video interpretation.

Nope, nope, nope. When did their videos become really popular on MTV? Five albums (plus an EP) into their career. Puh-leez. You don't seem to know much about U2 or MTV.

I think there is a good portion of savy businessmenship behind U2, from early on. Somehow I can't rid myself of the feeling.

Yeah. They were backed by that savvy Irish music magnate Paul McGuinness, whose successes include U2 and... U2.

U2 has been savvy in that they've believed in themselves and their music and never thought they were bigger than the band as individuals or sold out for the quick buck. It really is remarkable.

I first saw U2 when they were touring in support of their second album, "October," opening for the J. Geils Band. The headliners put on a decent show, but coming on stage after U2, they came off like old-fashioned show biz jive.

No blatant overdubs, no Robbie Robertson mugging for the camera and no coked up mistakes.


Quote:
Originally Posted by sbpirate
How does it compare to "the Last Waltz"

Took the words right out of my mouth. But I must add no boring, self-indulgent coke raps.

[Nick Fanis]

Originally Posted by wayne alexander

i saw the movie over this weekend, with my non-guitar-playing and not-particularly-interested-in-guitarists wife. I loved the movie, she liked it a lot. I think the choice of the three guitarists was inspired - each represents a completely different approach to the instrument. Jimmy paige came up as a technically superb player who was the featured guitarist in a couple of light pop bands and then the yardbirds, then went into the studio as a session musician for everything from forgettable light pop ditties to muzak, then took that formidable skill and applied it to lz. Edge has figured out how to make interesting and massive sounds using a mountain of effects, often building from stripped-down chord voices and arpeggios. No one before him played the way he does, he revolutionized how to use a guitar in a band. Jack white is a primitivist, very much focused on early emotional blues, whose favorite recorded song is a son house record with only a voice and hand clapping (which fills a barn with sound and emotion easily). There's a lot in the movie about the creative process, and some great stuff for equipment geeks, and a close up look at jp's hands doing some iconic lz stuff. What's not to like, especially for any of you who come to this forum?

+10000000000000000000000000000000000

[PeteMac]

Yeah . . . that's what I was trying to say !!!
(but stumbled badly at doing so, - what with all that english language with all its words and letters and such ! )

Nicely put, lads.

[eddiewagner]

i just can´t wait to see it. a movie about the electric guitar!! that´s just fantastic.

[bmack]

I saw the movie a couple weeks ago. Great Flick.

Towards the end of the movie Jimmy Page is playing an unusual telecaster. I don't remember the name of the song they were playing but it was in the last 20-30 minutes. Can anyone identify it? I never got a good peek at the headstock.

[Slickster]

good flick ... loved JP listening to the Rumble! Jack White playing his stripped down blues stuff ... pretty cool.

The Edge? I don't think The Edge has ever put himself across as some guitar hero and he sure didn't in this flick. In fact, he even went as far a to play some huge sounding stuff with his effects piled on, turn it all off, and show us what he's actually playing. Seems like a pretty humble guy. U2 is a great band ... and have been for years. Great songs, great sound, great lyrics. What's not to like?

[jimd]

I just saw this movie. It was great. I really enjoyed hearing the backgrounds and paths these three guys took. It was very interesting. Some of the things, like seeing where Zepplin recorded and hearing the edge play a riff without his effects were very cool. I think Jimmy Page really stole the show as the virtuoso and rock legend. But The Edge and Jack White were both great. The choices of those 3 are obviously highly debatable, but it worked. Three different generations, and three different approaches.

ps. I would love to have 5 minutes in that room of Jimmy pages where he stashes his equipment.

[Jeff_K]

Originally Posted by tweedtone

I'm fairly giddy with antici....pation.

Oh, very nice obscure movie reference!

[jjkrause84]

Originally Posted by Jeff_K

Oh, very nice obscure movie reference!

Hopefully not TOO obscure....if so, I dunno....it would feel like being in a TIME WARP!

[Dmann]

Originally Posted by Tele Fan

I'll probably see that but I'm really waiting for somebody to make "It Might Get Twangy" staring Redd Volkaert, Junior Brown, and Duane Eddy. Anybody in movie land listening? Anybody?

That is brilliant!, I think it has a smaller audience but it would be interesting.

[Dmann]

Originally Posted by bmack

I saw the movie a couple weeks ago. Great Flick.

Towards the end of the movie Jimmy Page is playing an unusual telecaster. I don't remember the name of the song they were playing but it was in the last 20-30 minutes. Can anyone identify it? I never got a good peek at the headstock.

It looked like a tele with a Jazzmaster tremelo.

[Dr. Bill]

Originally Posted by PeteMac

Edge himself says in the film that he loves the effects and uses them as his instrument. He mentions the ad placed on the notice board at his high school seeking a guitarist by Larry Mullen, and wonders what would have happened if he had not answered the ad. He muses that he would probably be working in a bank, or something. I don't think he himself has any pretentions about his playing ability. It's just a different approach to the playing of the guitar, and it has worked out rather well for him, and his band.

The movie highlights 3 totally different approaches to the art of playing the guitar. It's not presenting the results of a poll for the greatest guitarists of all time.

I say, if you love the guitar go see the movie - then pass judgment.

Bingo. Take away his delay pedals and the Edge (I never quite got that moniker) is, as he said, "working in a bank" . . . or driving a cab. I hear he likes tweed deluxes, though, so he can't be all bad.

This is probably a moot point, since this movie has a snowball's chance in you know where of making it to theaters in my area. I suppose Blockbusters will have it at some point.

Dr. Bill

[Mike Eskimo]

Bingo. Take away his delay pedals and the Edge (I never quite got that moniker) is, as he said, "working in a bank" . . . or driving a cab. I hear he likes tweed deluxes, though, so he can't be all bad.

This is probably a moot point, since this movie has a snowball's chance in you know where of making it to theaters in my area. I suppose Blockbusters will have it at some point.

People fail to realize 1 HUGE thing :

The ability to write hooks/memorable riffs is a separate thing from being a virtuoso.

Not a lesser thing.

A different thing.


The Edge : Songwriter/Hook writer

Jimmy Page : Both actually. (A master at both)

Jack White : I'm from Detroit so I'll recuse myself from offering an opinion.


Remember : Aside from his slide playing (which he was a virtuoso at) George Harrison was just a really good guitarist (not great) but he was a brilliant songwriter.

[sekt88]

I saw this movie. I loath the Jack White-I am so depressed and connect with old black slave songs-I am deep. His pseudo-deep insights are laughable.

Page is like an absent minded old professor-Love him.

The Edge seems like a nice guy.

But the White Kid should move back to detroit.

[Bigdawg]

how is everyone seeing this other than guys in the uk..??? Anyone got a release date for the UK?

[jjkrause84]

Originally Posted by Bigdawg

how is everyone seeing this other than guys in the uk..??? Anyone got a release date for the UK?

Well when did it come out in the States...a few months ago? It normally takes a while for films to get here based on the chosen distribution method of throwing the reels into the ocean and letting the North Atlantic Drift do the rest.

I can't tell you how many times I've been home to California to visit family and watched a film on video only to come back to the UK ready for its big cinema release

[neocaster]

Started opening here in the US on 9/25...

release dates

It's playing about an hour from me, in a neck of the woods I just happen to need to visit this evening. Opportunity knocks. Not sure though, I may want to just come home and argue with you guys about who is and isn't influential, who should or shouldn't be in a movie about guitars or when somebody "made it" and whether or not MTV had anything to do with it... Yeah, I'm just gonna see the movie.

[Bigdawg]

ill have it on DVD I think before its gets over here...

[flatout9]

Originally Posted by Warren Pederson

Even that Zorro guy that sells guitars on the shopping channel would've been more interesting than the Edge dude.

LMAO! I'm going to have to go see it just because there are guitar's in it. I hate to admit this but I'm not a big fan of any of them. I know JP is a legend but I never have been a real zep lover. Edge, huh, - Not a big fan. Jack who? Wasn't he in a movie about school of rock or something?