My Theory

[Bill Hullett]

welll.......
As if we haven't had enough Michael Jackson , I want to pass on something I've felt ever since the day he died, and the reason I want to tell you guys is that I think it might be shaping up to be true....

Here were the parameters....MJ was set to do 50 concerts, he was financially bust and a group of investors were backing him on this . MJ had been to 2 rehersals in the last 6 weeks of rehersals and had just said in as interview that he was only going to do 10 concerts as opposed to 50...


Think of this.....The "investors" had to commision a world class stage to be made...3-4 million I guarantee you.....hire X number of musicians, singers, dancers.....all on salary while this is put together....directors, choriographers etc...etc....etc....It's reported that the investors had spent 29 million at the time of death...

Add to this....that the "investors" were also paying the $100,000 rent and staff at MJs LA house as well as the live in DRs salary (it has been reported that he too was in finacial trouble)

It is VERY COMMON if not ALWAYS THE CASE during the making of movies, concerts, LPs etc....that the "investors" or record companys etc.....get an insurance policy on THE STAR for this very kind of catastrophie so they don't loose their money....


I say given the facts that things weren't going as planned and that MJ was unpredictable and had just announced that he was chopping away 80% of the concerts (thus removing a large % of potential profit) and since they controlled all parties involved, I say that the investors had him killed via the drug OD ....I'm sure they put the numbers together and saw that he was worth way more dead that alive and were tired of messing with him.....

they "controlled all the angles" the $$$..... the DR.... The house.....

Way too many screw ups too....24 hours after his death, moving vans and people are walking thru the house even before the coroners report was done...evidence in the bedroom gone quickly etc.....WHO SENT THE MOVING VANS SO QUICKLY????? Why wasn't the house police taped off!!??

MJ messed with a group of thugs and paid the price....

JMHO
Bill Hullett

[Brad Miller]

WOW Bill, all I can say is WOW!

Very interesting take on the situation.

[StuH]

Okay.
What is your take on Sasquatch?

[Doug 54]

CSI MJ !!

u go!!!

[homerzeppelin]

It certainly seems possible.

[dean]

Bill, you need to talk to my wife - she says the same thing! And she's never wrong on these types of cases - I mean NEVER WRONG!

Dean

[bingy]

You know...it's within the realm of possibilities.
Sorry to say.

[Wardpike]

Who was behind the Kennedy Assassinations?

Seriously, Dean. I want to hear her theories!!

[dan1952]

Veddy interrresting...

[Joel Terry]

Bill, excellent deductive reasoning!

It's amazing that you've brought up such an interesting--and definitely not implausible--scenario. My wife posited that very scenario this morning with the corollary that the promise of big, big money (or loss/threat of loss thereof) can easily beget sinister thoughts in most people's minds.

So I hereby name you as the second most intelligent person I know, tied with Dean's missus and my missus for the honors. (My mother-in-law will always be the most intelligent. )

Joel

[Doug 54]

heck
da Mafia behind Kennedy thang

[Geoff738]

Calling Oliver Stone.

I dunno. Maybe MJ knew he was in over his physical and mental capabilities and was looking for a way out. Not necessarily death, but something that would allow him to cancel the shows and walk away.

But then, he apparently needed the bux, so who knows.

Let's wait and see what the official line is.

Cheers,
geoff

[Skully]

It's a good plot, but I don't think they killed him. I think he was probably under so much pressure, he was ready to kill himself, but, in the end, I don't think he did so on purpose.

[Jahmbie]

This came out yesterday morning via the AP.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/...LzfmwD996LVS00

It is interesting that the Lloyd's policy only pays out on accidental death, including drug overdose, but not death by natural causes like heart disease.
But the policy holder, AEG, will still be at least $7.5 in the whole if Lloyd's pays out.

[qblue]

Bill, you have a sinister plot for a made for TV movie!

But I suppose it's possible....

[maestrovert]

Hmmmm.....interesting Bill, very interesting indeed.

Never fear, though it may take quite some time, yet will Truth win out in the end.

[fretbuzzard]

I think we're overlooking the obvious role of the Illuminati, Freemasons, and the Lizard King in this plot! The truth is out there! ;)

Crackpot conspiracy theories aside, though, it wouldn't be the first time someone was killed for money.

[studio1087]

?????

I don't know. Anything is possible but too often the simplest explanation is the explanation.

Fact - 5'10" man
Fact - 50 years old
Fact - He weighed 114 pounds

My big sister is a dietitian who specializes in psychiatric work with anorexic and bulimic patients. She and her husband (a Doctor) both keep saying that the tendency for a person who is 50 years old, 5'10" and 114 pounds to dehydrate or have complications from pharmaceuticals is extreme.

He was in rough physical condition and at a huge risk of complications. You cannot eat pain meds like M&M's when you are 5'10" and weigh 114 and past middle aged.

You cannot be 50 years old, 5'10" and weigh 114 pounds and abuse medication.

My girlfriend in highschool was a 5'6" blonde cheerleader...a pixie...she weighed 114 when she was 18 years old and she was skinny as a rail. MJ was a physical mess.

I don't think that MJ was killed by the investors who were going to make money from the tour.

John

[Mark Davis]

I heard all 50 concerts were sold out over 1 million tickets sold.

If MJ wasnt gonna do all 50 I could see Bills theory.

They just showed MJ in a rehersal and he was in good shape wasnt feeble or anything so I think it could happen for sure.

[ole AZ]

Maybe he's not even really dead...

Well Bill, I hope its not true, but it is indeed very plausible. Its sad to say, but very true I think to say that because it was MJ, that makes it even more plausible. Many people reduced him to nothing more than a creep in the last 15 years, and when a creep owes you millions...well, its possible

[Bill Hullett]

Thats it.....I got it now!!!! He faked his death .....is absolved of all worldly debt, and will now become the best MJ impersonator on the Vegas Strip!!!!
and just like the ad! What goes on in Vegas stays in Vegas!!!

Bill Hullett

[13ontheB]

Originally Posted by StuH

Okay.
What is your take on Sasquatch?

He's got big feet. LOL

[brokenjoe]

Bill, your a genius. You should have copyrighted your 'theory' before posting it here though.

Now the cat's outta the bag........

[tiktok]

I'd heard that MJ agreed to the tour to avoid selling off his half of the Northern Songs (Lennon-McCartney)/MJ publishing. And that if he'd only played the 10 shows instead of the 50, he'd be in default of his deal with the promoters, and they'd get the catalog. So, there could be compelling reasons either way to have him do or not do the tour, and live or die.

Plus, of course, the guy was a raving drug addict, so "good thinking" may have been notably absent from his business decisions.

[tele salivas]

it all seems very timely, and he was worth way more dead than alive. there was no way he was going to be able to do these exhaustive shows, ith all the attendant media and greeting room crap that he would have to do,(though not as exhaustive as 50 one nighters from the back of a van) look who controlled his situation and setting at the time of his death(as Mr. Hullett noted)it is not implausable, he was pissing off a lot of the wrong people.

[tiktok]

Originally Posted by Bill Hullett

Way too many screw ups too....24 hours after his death, moving vans and people are walking thru the house even before the coroners report was done...evidence in the bedroom gone quickly etc.....WHO SENT THE MOVING VANS SO QUICKLY????? Why wasn't the house police taped off!!??

It was obvious to everyone that MJ could die at any point, and crafty business people have contingency plans for those possibilities which don't need to include actually killing the guy themselves. When painter Mark Rothko committed suicide in his studio, his manager/gallery rep's went by in person to scoop up all the paintings and sketches they could find within hours of hearing of his death, and his daughter spent years in court to get them back. People like that (artist managers) are not caught unaware by suicidally-depressive artists with drug habits dropping dead without "warning".

Police tape off crime scenes, not death locations. If my grandmother has a heart attack tomorrow, the cops aren't going to tape off her house either.

[redstringuitar]

Very plausable, makes you wonder about all the other celebs and big bucks people that have kicked the bucket in mysterious circumstances.

Knowing and proving are two very different things though.

[Ron Garson]

With all this speculation, I reckon we need some twangy guitar background for this thread!

[mudshark]

It's always the butler that did it.

[olewichita]

Originally Posted by Wardpike

Who was behind the Kennedy Assassinations?

this will keep you occupied for a while... if anything an interesting read...

tj

[DMace]

MJ said years ago that he would go out like Elvis. Unless Elvis was poisoned too, my guess is that Michael simply took a few too many Dilaudids, or whatever happened to be his prescription pain-killer of choice.

[Skully]

Bill, you have a sinister plot for a made for TV movie!

Ironically, I wrote an unproduced spec script several years back with a very similar plot, but it was a comedy.

[TDPRI]

Bill it is always a treat to see you posting on the TDPRI. I love it.

I think we're going to be sick to death with the conspiracy theories on this one for decades to come.

I had heard that:

1. All the ticket money will be refunded
2. As you say millions had been spent already
3. The Insurance company wouldn't take the entire $ risk in the policy

So, MJ's death, even if the insurance paid off 100% couldn't cover the ticket refund and the expenses already out laid. The promoter is gonna lose millions.

Is it possible MJ wanted to find a way out and thought hospitalization would naturally give him an out only to have what was supposed to make him sick end up killing him? Add that to the 300 other theories we're going to hear now.

[Tdot]

Originally Posted by brokenjoe

Bill, your a genius. You should have copyrighted your 'theory' before posting it here though.

Now the cat's outta the bag........

Yep, I just saw a commercial on LifetimeTV. The mini-series based on a true story!

[Eric Karonen]

Love him, hate him, the guy was a giant in our era! Sounds a lot like Elvis talk here .. from the era before ... mystery goes a long way ...

[tiktok]

Originally Posted by TDPRI

Is it possible MJ wanted to find a way out and thought hospitalization would naturally give him an out only to have what was supposed to make him sick end up killing him? Add that to the 300 other theories we're going to hear now.

"Medical emergencies" are the standard out for a performer to duck out of live dates without penalty to themselves. Hence all the cases of "exhaustion" on the road, instead of "too strung-out to function".

[Telarkaster]

Wow, and here I am thinking that he faked his death and is now water skiing with Jim Morisson and Elvis somewhere...

[stevieboy]

Bubbles had him whacked.

[rangercaster]

i love a good conspiracy theory !!!

I shouted out,
Who killed the Kennedys?
When after all
It was you and me

[fiestared57]

Originally Posted by studio1087

I don't know. Anything is possible but too often the simplest explanation is the explanation.

This is my take. He simply OD'd. Whether it was intentional or not, we'll probably never know, but as others pointed out, killing him for money wouldn't cover the costs.