Remember BADFINGER? 70's rock

ESQUIREoholic · October 2nd, 2008, 07:17 PM

When I was a teenager I remember hearing this band and was totally diggin' their sound. I still think they had a very destinctive sound.
Check this clip out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=&feature=related

Oh Yeah!

ESQUIREoholic · October 2nd, 2008, 07:22 PM

Then there is more seventies clips like this one:

ESQUIREoholic · October 2nd, 2008, 07:43 PM

Digging deeper. Listen to the guitar runs in the beginning:

ANYONE have any other 70's rock clips?

ESQUIREoholic · October 2nd, 2008, 07:50 PM

OK One more...
Remember Battle of the Bands:

mickeydean · October 2nd, 2008, 11:09 PM

i don't remember the name of it, but there is an incredible documentary about Badfinger that details the greatest rip off in rock and roll history. at one point their song catalog was earning more than the beatles and the most they ever made was 300 bucks a week.

it ended in suicide of one or maybe two of the members.

incredible story and very sad.

TDPRI · October 2nd, 2008, 11:39 PM

Badfinger? You mean The Iveys.

Paul McCartney took the Iveys and made them top sellers. Gave them Beatles songs and engineered their success. Paul thought their name wasn't "dirty" enough. He came up with "Badfinger" cause it didn't sound nice.

Their first hit was, "Come and Get it". Paul wrote it for the Beatles. The Beatles recorded it and it was mixed and all done. But since Apple was new and they wanted their new label to have some hits they brought in the Iveys, played them the finished Beatles version of the song and told them to not change a thing. To copy it note for note and make it sound exactly the same.

They did that and surprise... they had a number one hit right out of the box.

I keep looking for Iveys LPs. I've only seen one and it was in horrible shape or I'd own it. I'm still looking.

PS. The Beatles version is on Anthology (III, I think).

furrfurrfurr · October 2nd, 2008, 11:46 PM

Check out the Peter Seller's movie "The Magic Christian" (I think that's the name)

Great movie and Badfinger in soundtrack

G-log · October 2nd, 2008, 11:58 PM

Baby Blue is one of my top 10 fave songs - one of the reasons I picked up the guitar in the first place!

mojo2001 · October 3rd, 2008, 12:06 AM

A SLADE classic...

Mark Davis · October 3rd, 2008, 12:21 AM

I always liked Badfinger they reminded me of The Beatles now with Pauls info I know why.

brownshoe · October 3rd, 2008, 12:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mickeydean

i don't remember the name of it, but there is an incredible documentary about Badfinger that details the greatest rip off in rock and roll history. at one point their song catalog was earning more than the beatles and the most they ever made was 300 bucks a week.

it ended in suicide of one or maybe two of the members.

incredible story and very sad.

You may be referring to VH1's Behind The Music: Badfinger. There is also a book called - Without You : The Tragic Story of Badfinger. Two members committed suicide, Pete first, and then Tom, years later.

They were song writers and musicians unto themselves and I never really thought of them being like the Beatles.

Big Mike Simpson · October 3rd, 2008, 01:25 AM

http://www.tdpri.com/forum/bad-dog-c...k-history.html

Tim Bowen · October 3rd, 2008, 01:28 AM

I love Badfinger. I can't listen to those guys - or The Raspberries - or Big Star - and NOT hear The Beatles influence. But that's a good thing, not a bad thing. It doesn't mean that they didn't have their own sound, because they certainly did.

Have to say that I'm partial to the concise pop radio hit arrangements. I have BBC in Concert 1972-1973 LIVE on CD, and those guys were, at times, a jam band - but who wasn't at the time, right? They even covered the old chestnut, "Feelin' Alright". It's a good, historically interesting listen that I dig out now and then, but I vastly prefer the classic studio cuts - "Come And Get It", "Day After Day", "No Matter What", "Baby Blue", all the great radio hits... back when mainstream radio still had great radio hits.

Loco · October 3rd, 2008, 04:14 AM

Day After Day is one of my favourite songs of all time. So much tragedy surrounding the group however...

B Valley · October 3rd, 2008, 07:29 AM

I saw Badfinger live in 1971, they opened for Lee Michaels at a show in San Jose, Ca. My group of buddies were all Beatles fans and therefore Badfinger fans. They were a real tight band, and put on a great show. It is sad what happened to them, but there were a thousand other bands at that time that shared their fate.
My Mom used to work with a guy from Question Mark and the Mysterians who had a hit with "96 Tears". They still get together and perform every now and then, but they all work regular jobs now. At that time, one hit record didn't net you much.

emu! · October 3rd, 2008, 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TDPRI

Badfinger? You mean The Iveys.

Paul McCartney took the Iveys and made them top sellers. Gave them Beatles songs and engineered their success. Paul thought their name wasn't "dirty" enough. He came up with "Badfinger" cause it didn't sound nice.

Their first hit was, "Come and Get it". Paul wrote it for the Beatles. The Beatles recorded it and it was mixed and all done. But since Apple was new and they wanted their new label to have some hits they brought in the Iveys, played them the finished Beatles version of the song and told them to not change a thing. To copy it note for note and make it sound exactly the same.

They did that and surprise... they had a number one hit right out of the box.

I keep looking for Iveys LPs. I've only seen one and it was in horrible shape or I'd own it. I'm still looking.

PS. The Beatles version is on Anthology (III, I think).

That explains why they were on the Apple Label! I've always wondered why until now. My brother brought home the BABY BLUE 45 one day back in the 70s, and it looked earily similar to the Beatles records.

I've always loved the sound of the cool guitar fill-in notes on BABY BLUE. It looks like the guy is just using an SG plugged directly into a silver face. My silver face never sounded like that.

Eric Karonen · October 3rd, 2008, 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TDPRI

Badfinger? You mean The Iveys.

Paul McCartney took the Iveys and made them top sellers. Gave them Beatles songs and engineered their success. Paul thought their name wasn't "dirty" enough. He came up with "Badfinger" cause it didn't sound nice.

Their first hit was, "Come and Get it". Paul wrote it for the Beatles. The Beatles recorded it and it was mixed and all done. But since Apple was new and they wanted their new label to have some hits they brought in the Iveys, played them the finished Beatles version of the song and told them to not change a thing. To copy it note for note and make it sound exactly the same.

They did that and surprise... they had a number one hit right out of the box.

I keep looking for Iveys LPs. I've only seen one and it was in horrible shape or I'd own it. I'm still looking.

PS. The Beatles version is on Anthology (III, I think).

That's my recollection of the band too.

We had a Beatlesque band here in Toronto called Klaatu that had the rumour mills going at full tilt. It was fun while it lasted.

serialsteve · October 3rd, 2008, 11:24 AM

"No Matter What" may be the greatest power pop tune of all time.

Brilliant and tragic what happened with that band.

hekawi · October 3rd, 2008, 01:06 PM

great, great band!

my favorite Badfinger song wasn't a hit. it is the closing track from the album "No Dice"....somebody put some photos to it and posted it on youtube. for those who haven't heard it before, treat yourself to "We're For The Dark":

btw: a little clarification on the name:

Their original name: "The Iveys" was sometimes confused with "The Ivy League", and the name was considered too trite for the current music scene. After much debate, the group changed their name to Badfinger. Other suggestions had included: "The Glass Onion," "The Prix", and "The Cagneys" from John Lennon, and "Home" by Paul McCartney.

The name Badfinger was suggested by Apple's Neil Aspinall as a reference to "Bad Finger Boogie", an early working title of Lennon's "With a Little Help from My Friends", so-called because Lennon had composed the melody on a piano using his middle finger, after having hurt his forefinger.

beach bob · October 3rd, 2008, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Eric Karonen

We had a Beatlesque band here in Toronto called Klaatu that had the rumour mills going at full tilt. It was fun while it lasted.

I remeber them! I still have their first elpee, which is very very good indeed. We never quite bought 'it's really the Beatles' rumors; we just enjoyed their music. Did y'all know that Todd Rundgren can sound like the Beatles when he wants to? And so can that other guy; umm Jeff Lynne. Yeah, that guy too

Anyways thanks for the cool Badfinger vids. My old 3-pc band did No Matter What; unfortunately I lacked the Leslie, but we made it work anyways. That whole era of pre-synth power pop got the short end of the stick when it came to radio programming... I loved the style: take melodic Beatles-type pop gems, and crank up the guitars. Badfinger. Dwight Twilley. Raspberries. Cheap Trick. Still one of my favorite musical eras...

stevedenver · October 3rd, 2008, 04:52 PM

great band -i was always intrigued by thier sound-have magic christian and badfinger lps-i think there is a big difference between mc c's songs and tom and petes-but all were great

TheDude · October 3rd, 2008, 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TDPRI

Their first hit was, "Come and Get it". Paul wrote it for the Beatles. The Beatles recorded it and it was mixed and all done. But since Apple was new and they wanted their new label to have some hits they brought in the Iveys, played them the finished Beatles version of the song and told them to not change a thing. To copy it note for note and make it sound exactly the same.

PS. The Beatles version is on Anthology (III, I think).

The "Beatles" version (on Anthology III) is just Paul. He went into the studio an hour before the others came in when they were recording "Abbey Road", and recorded "Come and Get It", overdubbing himself on drums, bass, guitar, etc. It's unclear if Paul wrote it for the Beatles, since he had written songs for other artists before.

BTW, for a lesser-known Badfinger gem, check out "Wish You Were Here", they're last album before Pete Ham committed suicide. The album was only out for a month, then pulled for legal reasons, so it's a real lost classic. IIRC, it only made it to CD in Europe, and is OOP in the US (but is not too hard to find, thanks to the internet).

aunchaki · October 3rd, 2008, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Loco

Day After Day is one of my favourite songs of all time.

+1 mine, too! I have Apple-labeled 45s of Come and Get It and Day After Day. I think they're the last vinyl I own.

ESQUIREoholic · October 3rd, 2008, 06:36 PM

Long live Badfinger's music.........

ESQUIREoholic · October 3rd, 2008, 06:38 PM

Peter Ham's voice really fit the music and the guitar sounds in some of those songs was so awesome. Simple but full of cool.

Del Pickup · October 3rd, 2008, 07:24 PM

I think I still have 'Come & Get It' on vinyl somewhere in the collection. I remember buying it when it first came out.

Another similar band from the 70's with great harmonies was the Sutherland Brothers (with and without Quiver). I saw them several times in the mid 70's and they were great. I've also got all their albums but can only find a few cruddy videos of them on YouTube. I'd love to see some more of their appearances on the 'Old Grey Whistle Test' and any other programmes they appeared on. Anybody got any idea if there are any available?

Larry F · October 3rd, 2008, 09:51 PM

One of my bands played the after game dance circuit in the Portland, Oregon area in 1971. Gladstone High School had a jukebox in the cafeteria where we played several times that had Come and Get It. I would plug the quarters into that thing to play the song over and over while we set up and tore down. I almost didn't want to play so that I could listen to the song over and over. No Matter What, also, was just stirring.

I believe they played on George Harrison's All Things Must Pass and Concert for Bangladesh as an acoustic guitar and tambourine section. Good blend.

emu! · October 3rd, 2008, 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ESQUIREoholic

When I was a teenager I remember hearing this band and was totally diggin' their sound. I still think they had a very destinctive sound.
Check this clip out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=&feature=related

Oh Yeah!

Am I imagining things, or is that a very young Kenny Rogers introducing the band in that clip?

charlie chitlin · October 4th, 2008, 12:08 AM

Yup...I'm pretty sure that's Kenny.
I never missed an episode of "Kenny Rogers and the First Edition"
Beautiful performance.
I thought it was a lip-sync thing at first because it sounded so great, but I think it's live.
Pete Hamm also wrote one of my favorites, "Without You" by Nilsson.
I wonder if Badfinger ever played or recorded it.
Jeeze...I remember listening to Day After Day in the car on the way back from the beach when it first hit the radio. It went right to my center. I was just a kid.
Beautiful, amazing song!

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ESQUIREoholic Tele-Afflicted Join Date: May 2005 Location: Silver Spring, Md. Posts: 1,007	Then there is more seventies clips like this one: __________________ Alright, hand over the Tele...and no one gets hurt! Last edited by Tim Armstrong; October 2nd, 2008 at 08:00 PM.

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ESQUIREoholic Tele-Afflicted Join Date: May 2005 Location: Silver Spring, Md. Posts: 1,007	Digging deeper. Listen to the guitar runs in the beginning: ANYONE have any other 70's rock clips? __________________ Alright, hand over the Tele...and no one gets hurt!

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mickeydean Tele-Holic Join Date: May 2008 Location: millersville Age: 55 Posts: 838	i don't remember the name of it, but there is an incredible documentary about Badfinger that details the greatest rip off in rock and roll history. at one point their song catalog was earning more than the beatles and the most they ever made was 300 bucks a week. it ended in suicide of one or maybe two of the members. incredible story and very sad. __________________ I'm not getting older, I'm getting LOUDER. http://www.soundclick.com/mickeydean

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TDPRI Administrator Poster Extraordinaire Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: TDPRILAND Posts: 6,428 46 Photos	Badfinger? You mean The Iveys. Paul McCartney took the Iveys and made them top sellers. Gave them Beatles songs and engineered their success. Paul thought their name wasn't "dirty" enough. He came up with "Badfinger" cause it didn't sound nice. Their first hit was, "Come and Get it". Paul wrote it for the Beatles. The Beatles recorded it and it was mixed and all done. But since Apple was new and they wanted their new label to have some hits they brought in the Iveys, played them the finished Beatles version of the song and told them to not change a thing. To copy it note for note and make it sound exactly the same. They did that and surprise... they had a number one hit right out of the box. I keep looking for Iveys LPs. I've only seen one and it was in horrible shape or I'd own it. I'm still looking. PS. The Beatles version is on Anthology (III, I think).

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furrfurrfurr Friend of Leo's Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: South of Heaven Posts: 3,063	Check out the Peter Seller's movie "The Magic Christian" (I think that's the name) Great movie and Badfinger in soundtrack __________________ Hope I'm not too Messianic or a trifle too Satanic. Meow.

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Tim Bowen Friend of Leo's Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Atlanta, Georgia Age: 48 Posts: 3,783	I love Badfinger. I can't listen to those guys - or The Raspberries - or Big Star - and NOT hear The Beatles influence. But that's a good thing, not a bad thing. It doesn't mean that they didn't have their own sound, because they certainly did. Have to say that I'm partial to the concise pop radio hit arrangements. I have BBC in Concert 1972-1973 LIVE on CD, and those guys were, at times, a jam band - but who wasn't at the time, right? They even covered the old chestnut, "Feelin' Alright". It's a good, historically interesting listen that I dig out now and then, but I vastly prefer the classic studio cuts - "Come And Get It", "Day After Day", "No Matter What", "Baby Blue", all the great radio hits... back when mainstream radio still had great radio hits. __________________ "Everyone is different in how they learn, but for me, it's turning the pegs and just playing." - BB

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Loco Tele-Holic Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Dorset, England Age: 54 Posts: 818	Day After Day is one of my favourite songs of all time. So much tragedy surrounding the group however...

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B Valley Tele-Afflicted Join Date: May 2008 Location: Glendale, Az Posts: 1,161	I saw Badfinger live in 1971, they opened for Lee Michaels at a show in San Jose, Ca. My group of buddies were all Beatles fans and therefore Badfinger fans. They were a real tight band, and put on a great show. It is sad what happened to them, but there were a thousand other bands at that time that shared their fate. My Mom used to work with a guy from Question Mark and the Mysterians who had a hit with "96 Tears". They still get together and perform every now and then, but they all work regular jobs now. At that time, one hit record didn't net you much. __________________ How many guitars is enough? Just one more...

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serialsteve Tele-Holic Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 808	"No Matter What" may be the greatest power pop tune of all time. Brilliant and tragic what happened with that band.

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hekawi Friend of Leo's Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: greenville, sc Posts: 2,396	great, great band! my favorite Badfinger song wasn't a hit. it is the closing track from the album "No Dice"....somebody put some photos to it and posted it on youtube. for those who haven't heard it before, treat yourself to "We're For The Dark": btw: a little clarification on the name: Their original name: "The Iveys" was sometimes confused with "The Ivy League", and the name was considered too trite for the current music scene. After much debate, the group changed their name to Badfinger. Other suggestions had included: "The Glass Onion," "The Prix", and "The Cagneys" from John Lennon, and "Home" by Paul McCartney. The name Badfinger was suggested by Apple's Neil Aspinall as a reference to "Bad Finger Boogie", an early working title of Lennon's "With a Little Help from My Friends", so-called because Lennon had composed the melody on a piano using his middle finger, after having hurt his forefinger. __________________ ____________________________________________ "Rule Number One: Obey All Rules" - Barney Fife

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stevedenver Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: the mile high city Posts: 1,231 14 Photos	great band -i was always intrigued by thier sound-have magic christian and badfinger lps-i think there is a big difference between mc c's songs and tom and petes-but all were great __________________ Im really a Les Paul guy at heart, but .....

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ESQUIREoholic Tele-Afflicted Join Date: May 2005 Location: Silver Spring, Md. Posts: 1,007	Long live Badfinger's music......... __________________ Alright, hand over the Tele...and no one gets hurt!

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ESQUIREoholic Tele-Afflicted Join Date: May 2005 Location: Silver Spring, Md. Posts: 1,007	Peter Ham's voice really fit the music and the guitar sounds in some of those songs was so awesome. Simple but full of cool. __________________ Alright, hand over the Tele...and no one gets hurt!

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Del Pickup Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: New Zealand Posts: 1,294 6 Photos	I think I still have 'Come & Get It' on vinyl somewhere in the collection. I remember buying it when it first came out. Another similar band from the 70's with great harmonies was the Sutherland Brothers (with and without Quiver). I saw them several times in the mid 70's and they were great. I've also got all their albums but can only find a few cruddy videos of them on YouTube. I'd love to see some more of their appearances on the 'Old Grey Whistle Test' and any other programmes they appeared on. Anybody got any idea if there are any available? __________________ Someone told me that my tone is in my underpants. I'm not sure if that's good or bad......

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Larry F Friend of Leo's Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Iowa City, IA Age: 56 Posts: 3,041	One of my bands played the after game dance circuit in the Portland, Oregon area in 1971. Gladstone High School had a jukebox in the cafeteria where we played several times that had Come and Get It. I would plug the quarters into that thing to play the song over and over while we set up and tore down. I almost didn't want to play so that I could listen to the song over and over. No Matter What, also, was just stirring. I believe they played on George Harrison's All Things Must Pass and Concert for Bangladesh as an acoustic guitar and tambourine section. Good blend. __________________ larry

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charlie chitlin Friend of Leo's Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Bucktown, Pa Age: 47 Posts: 3,244	Yup...I'm pretty sure that's Kenny. I never missed an episode of "Kenny Rogers and the First Edition" Beautiful performance. I thought it was a lip-sync thing at first because it sounded so great, but I think it's live. Pete Hamm also wrote one of my favorites, "Without You" by Nilsson. I wonder if Badfinger ever played or recorded it. Jeeze...I remember listening to Day After Day in the car on the way back from the beach when it first hit the radio. It went right to my center. I was just a kid. Beautiful, amazing song! __________________ Dig yo'self http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm...6-bf3537901a07