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Old August 19th, 2008, 10:47 PM   #41 (permalink)
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I'm not so sure what you mean by this word. I'd appreciate if you would explain it for me.
I believe it's just a play on the word "sloppy". He called the Chinese girls "slopsters" because they're sloppy.

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Old August 20th, 2008, 12:55 AM   #42 (permalink)
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The Olympics are now and have been so politically influenced for so long that I don't even bother watching. The last time I really followed was 1984 when it was Los Angeles.
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Old August 20th, 2008, 02:19 AM   #43 (permalink)
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Alright, I don't want to lose any "man cred" here, but I seriously dig Olympic gymnastics. I watch very closely, I analyze routines, and I fully understand the scoring system.
And, pray tell, since when did musicians have any "man cred" in the first place?

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Old August 20th, 2008, 05:54 AM   #44 (permalink)
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The USA has been getting screwd the whole time.Even the announcers thought them chinese girls scores were to high................ and thay say the judges aint crooked.
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Old August 20th, 2008, 08:55 AM   #45 (permalink)
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I'm not so sure what you mean by this word. I'd appreciate if you would explain it for me.
Yea, at at first glance I went but lostpick's post was about sloppy (not uneven ) landings.
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Old August 20th, 2008, 09:11 AM   #46 (permalink)
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A buddy just sent me this article that he was emailed by Yahoo Sports or something. Thought it was pretty darn funny...
This article quotes that sports with "judges" are ignored, and specifically goes on to ignore boxing, martial arts, etc "because of the shenanigans of judging".

What about excluding any sport that has a referee/judge/umpire. Therefore excluded sports should include tennis, soccer, baseball/softball, yachting, and a host of others. And why exclude equestrian? Maybe dressage but surely not showjumping - where is the judging in that? Oh, and of course synchronised swimming.

The problem is that whenever there is a judge of any sort there is always going to be disagreement.

. . . . but the judging in the gymnastics has been very difficult to understand!
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Old August 20th, 2008, 10:13 AM   #47 (permalink)
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This article quotes that sports with "judges" are ignored, and specifically goes on to ignore boxing, martial arts, etc "because of the shenanigans of judging".

What about excluding any sport that has a referee/judge/umpire. Therefore excluded sports should include tennis, soccer, baseball/softball, yachting, and a host of others. And why exclude equestrian? Maybe dressage but surely not showjumping - where is the judging in that? Oh, and of course synchronised swimming.

The problem is that whenever there is a judge of any sort there is always going to be disagreement.

. . . . but the judging in the gymnastics has been very difficult to understand!
This is exactly what I have been saying for years. Any sport that has as a basis, some sort of subjective judging is not a sport. Gymnastics, diving, figure skating - NOT SPORTS! If you can't measure it with a stop watch, measuring tape or some other objective measure it's a performance, not a sport. At least that's my clouded view of things.

I've actually really enjoyed the gymnastics this year (I don't know what's got in to me). But the judging is confusing at best, and to me it looks fixed. I think gymnastics has a problem, even if it is not fixed, the appearance of such makes it a problem. The fact that all the questionable calls favored the host country is not good.

Don't get me started on synchronized swimming. We have a community team that is very good. I see them practicing in the local pool all the time. Those girls are amazing. It is a very challenging thing that they do. I am always impressed. But it is more art than sport.
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Old August 20th, 2008, 10:20 AM   #48 (permalink)
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The USA has been getting screwd the whole time.Even the announcers thought them chinese girls scores were to high................ and thay say the judges aint crooked.

I hope none of my comments indicate that I though the judges where crooked, per say.

But, If they are falling prey to fear and judging thusly, the end result is the same. I doubt if this is the case many of them could be happy about it either. Probably a lot less so then myself I'd bet.

The balance beam comp., as example. I hate that I fine I have to employ a little enjoyment that the CHN gal crashed and burned is order to know the mechanism can not manipulate that far outside of a curve.

But I have to say this: And it play into my having to admit ignorance of the sport and judging.

The following Sentence 'IS A SPOILER', so stop reading if you do not know who got the medals for the balance beam, Tues, actually i think it works out time wise.

That fact that the silver and gold medal winners are not CHN but are from the same country; The order of the final score for that event. I felt the Silver medal winner should have receive a better score than she did by the looks/grace/fluid-a-dity etc, but was scored a little lower than the gold metal winner. The final winning points total for these 2 was so close I thought the silver winer should have been the gold winner

Anyway, My wife quite watching Monday. ;)
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Gymnastics, like figure skating, is judged too subjectively IMO. Why can't the judges just give all the athletes an equal time limit, then let them do the flips, jumps, twirls, etc. Whoever does the most flips within the time limit will be the winner. :)
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Slopsters are oceanic crustaceans with large claws and long tails. Often eaten boiled or grilled, their tails are considered delicacies by many. My wife and I have spent many a wonderful date at Red Slopster, especially during Slopsterfest.
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Old August 20th, 2008, 12:05 PM   #51 (permalink)
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Slopsters are oceanic crustaceans with large claws and long tails. Often eaten boiled or grilled, their tails are considered delicacies by many. My wife and I have spent many a wonderful date at Red Slopster, especially during Slopsterfest.
We call those blobsters... Taste good, don't they? ;)
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