Warning: Tree forts are now illegal. - Page 2

straightface · July 19th, 2008, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by garytelecastor

Don't worry, dude. The US is almost there!!!!

Almost???

studio1087 · July 19th, 2008, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by geddins

What a load of crap.....how childish and insecure can folks get that they can't leave others alone?

I can answer that question...some people have neighbors from hell. Be careful man, some day you might have a drunken neighbor from hell who lets his pit bull run through your yard.

It can happen to anyone. Instant karma man. You could be next.

PraiseCaster · July 19th, 2008, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by geddins

What a load of crap.....how childish and insecure can folks get that they can't leave others alone?

You have no idea just how bad it can get, and it is getting there..........

Backing away from thread slowly. Restraining self from opening can of worms or pointing out the 800 pound gorilla setting in the corner of the room. Backing away slowly.............

PraiseCaster · July 19th, 2008, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Guitar_Ninja

Regardless of whether you would or not, and despite growing popular opinion to the contrary, you cannot hope to dictate the behaviours of everyone around you in all things. People have been doing things which annoy, frustrate, harm and impede us in our lives since the days we were all born. It is happening now and it will be happening until the days we all die.

Life is not fair. It has never been fair and it will never be fair. You cannot win every battle, you cannot always get your way. People are actually allowed to disagree with you and do things some way other than your way. Sometimes their decisions will severely infringe on our own freedoms and happiness. Unfortunately they are free to do so under the same laws which allow us said freedoms. Past generations accepted this as a part of life and learned and grew from it. Not so much anymore I guess.

BRAVO! Well said.

Tele Fan · July 19th, 2008, 04:26 PM

Moral of the story? Build your forts in the backyard.

gtrman911 · July 19th, 2008, 04:32 PM

....to code!!!!!!!!!!

Ricky D. · July 19th, 2008, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Jakedog

In the article, it states that when he contacted the city for a permit, he was told he didn't need one.

I'm sure he told them how big and how high it would be.

"Good morning. I want to build a little treehouse for my kids. Do I need a permit?"

geddins · July 19th, 2008, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by studio1087

I can answer that question...some people have neighbors from hell. Be careful man, some day you might have a drunken neighbor from hell who lets his pit bull run through your yard.

It can happen to anyone. Instant karma man. You could be next.

I've had neighbors from Hell....a couple different times. Know what I did? Worked it out....imagine that...someone actually going and discussing differences with a neighbor.....had to compromise....sure enough..but it got livable.

So maybe we ought to take a lesson from that...and just learn to live with each other's little differences; making adjustments as needed along the way....your way sounds like "roll over and play dead". That ain't for me...

geddins · July 19th, 2008, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Ricky D.

I'm sure he told them how big and how high it would be.

"Good morning. I want to build a little treehouse for my kids. Do I need a permit?"

I'll bet they didn't ask either....of course unless you want to assume this renegade architect is also a liar and just told them a story......

garytelecastor · July 19th, 2008, 10:26 PM

The newest thing is collecting thumbprints for buying liquor and cigarettes, and you name it.
Can anyone say "Orwellian"?

They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.-Benjamin Franklin; 1775

Ricky D. · July 20th, 2008, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by geddins

I'll bet they didn't ask either....of course unless you want to assume this renegade architect is also a liar and just told them a story......

Apparently there's no issue about that structure requiring a permit now. We'll never know how that conversation went, but the right way to deal with that question is to submit drawings and get on the record. And he knows better.

neocaster · July 20th, 2008, 08:39 AM

Here's the turd that Praisecaster's 800 pound gorilla drops. This isn't political, either, it's idealogical. I pay people to keep me safe, but they never asked me how safe I want to be, or from whom. Now they tell me a need a helmet to j*** off. I have 90 days to comply or be subjected to chemical castration.

JKjr · July 20th, 2008, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Stevie 202

We in Canada refer to this type of thing as "nanny-state" - ism.

The benevolent, all knowing masters protecting us from ourselves.

Our neighbors to the north have oil don't they? Maybe we should invade to save them from themselves. Can't have these insurgent pirate ships depriving whole neighborhoods of their freedom to define the freedom of other's can we?

Colt W. Knight · July 20th, 2008, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by gtrman911

oh boy....i'm not gona be a popular person after my opinion...

the city was ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.
Building codes exist for a reason. different dimentions of wood have different load qualities. AND a structure has to have DEAD LOAD, and LIVE load capacities.
then you're building it ON a living thing that CONSTANTLY moves (if it grows, it moves, people...let alone wind/weather!!!!)

my neighbor just built a treehouse, and of course, i WON'T let my kid inside it b/c i CAN SEE IT'S NOT STRUCTURALLY SOUND. No permit was gotten, and it WAS NOT MADE BY A CARPENTER, it was made by someone who bought carpenters' tools at HD, and a 'how-to' book.

God forbid anything happens to any kids, but i would not be able to live w/ myself if anything were to happen to my kid b/c i didn't think like the crowd and allow my kids to play on an unsafe/unauthorized/illegal/inadequate/ill-constructed tree house.

...dag-nab-it

Im glad my parents let me play with toys and play on and around things that were not 100% safe.
Damnedest thing too, I lived to grow into an adult.

Colt W. Knight · July 20th, 2008, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by gtrman911

therein lies the problem

THEY FIXED THEIR DRIVEWAY CRACKS, and CAN'T SELL B/C no one wants to purchase their house (that they maintained, repaired AND upgraded), b/c of the neighbors *blight* issues.

how would YOU feel if YOU fixed YOUR driveway cracks to sell YOUR house, but now have to accept $20k to $100K LESS b/c your neighbors can't *afford to fix/handle their own responsibilities*??

well...how'd you feel about that?

To be honest, it's not my business whether my neighbors want to fix their driveway cracks. You shouldn't have to paint or side your house because your neighbor does. This is just a case of tough luck or should have done better research before buying a house in this neighborhood. I know things happen out of our control, but come on ... we need to start taking a little responsibillity and quit blaming others for everything.

Colt W. Knight · July 20th, 2008, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by gtrman911

i'd like to know WHO IS DEWBERRY, and why he didn't know he needed a permit.?

In my area, the ONLY thing you can do to your house w/o a permit is paint it.

Excellent reason why I wouldn't want to live in a town or subdivision. Too many ordanances.

bobthecanadian · July 20th, 2008, 10:01 AM

The area that these folks live in is pretty upscale for the Vancouver area. So, yes, there is quite a bit of money tied up in properties. There are also laws, by-laws and zoning restrictions limiting property usage. Add to that contractual obligations when purchasing or selling properties. Homeowners in Vancouver are very protective of their rights to land usage. Things like cutting down trees, or in this case, building (elaborate professionally designed) structures in trees infringe upon others rights and agreements.

I am confident that an architect working and living in Vancouver is aware of what can or cannot be done. The tree house itself looks nice. If he had built it on the ground he may have avoided some trouble.

STOP!

Gorilla warning! I am about to step out of my reserved Canadian politeness, so I will ....

Guitarslinger1 · July 20th, 2008, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by straightface

Almost???

+1

We're not almost there, we're done.

It's all over but the crying.

Tim Armstrong · July 20th, 2008, 01:25 PM

Okay, we've all vented, some for, some against, some just plain angry in general.

Let's move on to other things, shall we?

Cheers, Tim

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garytelecastor Friend of Leo's Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,401 18 Photos	The newest thing is collecting thumbprints for buying liquor and cigarettes, and you name it. Can anyone say "Orwellian"? They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.-Benjamin Franklin; 1775 __________________ éí 'aaníígÓÓ 'áhoot'é Would you mind holding this bag while we go through the custom shop????? Redd Volkaert is a Jedi Knight at one with the Force!!!

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neocaster Friend of Leo's Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Chester County, PA Age: 35 Posts: 3,491 11 Photos	Here's the turd that Praisecaster's 800 pound gorilla drops. This isn't political, either, it's idealogical. I pay people to keep me safe, but they never asked me how safe I want to be, or from whom. Now they tell me a need a helmet to j*** off. I have 90 days to comply or be subjected to chemical castration. __________________ "...You don't need faith if you know it's gonna work!" "The views expressed here are mine and do not reflect the official opinion of my employer or the organization through which the Internet was accessed."

July 20th, 2008, 10:01 AM	#57 (permalink)
bobthecanadian Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Taipei, Taiwan Age: 42 Posts: 1,531	The area that these folks live in is pretty upscale for the Vancouver area. So, yes, there is quite a bit of money tied up in properties. There are also laws, by-laws and zoning restrictions limiting property usage. Add to that contractual obligations when purchasing or selling properties. Homeowners in Vancouver are very protective of their rights to land usage. Things like cutting down trees, or in this case, building (elaborate professionally designed) structures in trees infringe upon others rights and agreements. I am confident that an architect working and living in Vancouver is aware of what can or cannot be done. The tree house itself looks nice. If he had built it on the ground he may have avoided some trouble. STOP! Gorilla warning! I am about to step out of my reserved Canadian politeness, so I will .... __________________ It don't mean a thang if it ain't got that TWANG!!!

July 20th, 2008, 01:25 PM	#59 (permalink)
Tim Armstrong Moderator Poster Extraordinaire Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Berlin, Maryland, USA Age: 49 Posts: 8,824	Okay, we've all vented, some for, some against, some just plain angry in general. Let's move on to other things, shall we? Cheers, Tim __________________ http://www.moodswingers.org