Sir Paul played alot of guitars, but did you seem him with this???

Sheik Yerbouti · July 9th, 2008, 08:08 AM

I was digging around for some pics of George with his tele, and his Casino w/bigsby, and came across this!

reverbbb · July 9th, 2008, 08:14 AM

As a matter of fact, I sort of remember seeing that photo many years ago. What caught my attension back then was the fact that it was a lefty - I was not impressed with Telecasters back in them days (they weren't Les Pauls).

That has got to be around 1970~71 during his "McCartney" album days (Too Many People/Another Day).

Sheik Yerbouti · July 9th, 2008, 08:20 AM

Yea, I noticed it was a lefty too, thought that was pretty freakin' cool. I know I am opening a box of trouble here, but I think he is underrated as a pure musician.

Joe M · July 9th, 2008, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbouti

but I think he is underrated as a pure musician.

I agree completely with you...listen carefully to some of the bass parts he plays, even with the early Beatles, some real good stuff. And, if I'm not mistaken, he played all the instruments on his first solo album.

Cassady · July 9th, 2008, 08:34 AM

He's a superlative bass player and a darned good guitarist, too. He's played all, or almost all, of the instruments on several of his albums.

That's a cool Tele he's got there.

I'd be really interested in seeing his collection of left-handed instruments. I'm currently reading a history of the Les Paul and there's a couple of LPs that he owns pictured: an original '57 (I think) gold top and a '60 standard pictured in the book--both extremely rare, I'd imagine.

Thanks for the picture,

Cassady

play_loud · July 9th, 2008, 08:36 AM

Definately... Alot of emphasis on him as being a great songwriter, not much credit given to his technical skill (esp. on bass).

My all time favourite bass player. You cant deny the greatness of his basslines! Woo.

I guess some modern bassists frown down upon them for their inherent simplicity (for the most part), but imo, its the simple basslines that are the best.

Cheers.

P.s AWESUM picture.

Flat357 · July 9th, 2008, 08:48 AM

He might be underated as a musician , but as a person , his ego is about the biggest i've ever come across .

charlie chitlin · July 9th, 2008, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbouti

Yea, I noticed it was a lefty too, thought that was pretty freakin' cool. I know I am opening a box of trouble here, but I think he is underrated as a pure musician.

Underrated?
By whom?
I think most musicians and music lovers would agree that he is a virtuoso.
Talk to ANY bass player over 35.

Sheik Yerbouti · July 9th, 2008, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by charlie chitlin

Underrated?
By whom?
I think most musicians and music lovers would agree that he is a virtuoso.
Talk to ANY bass player over 35.

I'm sorry, I don't have any direct links, but I do remember people saying his playing was simplistic and boring. I think it was the direct opposite, and I do agree that he is a virtuoso.

JimiBryant · July 9th, 2008, 08:56 AM

given his accomplishments, I can't see how he wouldn't have an
enormous ego. dude wrote Yesterday the most-covered song
in history 'nuff said!

I remember also seeing a pic of Paul using an Esquire for a Sgt Pepper
overdub session, into a Selmer Zodiac amp I think it was.

FirstBassman · July 9th, 2008, 09:37 AM

A very nice site for Beatles instruments is this:

http://www.thecanteen.com/fabguitars.html

Though the Tele is not listed, an Esquire is:

http://www.thecanteen.com/mccartney7.html

Quote:

Originally Posted by charlie chitlin

I think most musicians and music lovers would agree that he is a virtuoso.
Talk to ANY bass player over 35.

I'm over 35. McCartney much overrated. Fantastic singer. Great song writer. Very, very, very good bass player. Virtuoso? No. Many, many more on that list before one gets to Sir Paul.

ac15 · July 9th, 2008, 09:50 AM

"I'm over 35. McCartney much overrated. Fantastic singer. Great song writer. Very, very, very good bass player. Virtuoso? No. Many, many more on that list before one gets to Sir Paul."

I'm someone who generally thinks words like "virtuoso" and "genius" are way overused. But if Paul isn't a virtuoso, I'd like to know what the accomplishments are of "the many more on the list" before McCartney.

Sheik Yerbouti · July 9th, 2008, 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ac15

"I'm over 35. McCartney much overrated. Fantastic singer. Great song writer. Very, very, very good bass player. Virtuoso? No. Many, many more on that list before one gets to Sir Paul."

I'm someone who generally thinks words like "virtuoso" and "genius" are way overused. But if Paul isn't a virtuoso, I'd like to know what the accomplishments are of "the many more on the list" before McCartney.

I agree, the list of musical geniuses is short, at least to me.
Modern day:
Zappa
Prince
The Beatles (as a collective)
The Stones (circa early-mid 70's, again, as a collective)

I know, it's another

ac15 · July 9th, 2008, 10:11 AM

Just to add...when I think of McCartney as an example of a brilliant talent I'm not necessarily talking about how many notes he can play or how many instruments he can play, but I think of the musical mind he has that allows him to do so many things well with complete ease. Basically, music just pours out of the guy. I read an interview a few years back with Paul Simon (no slouch himself), who said he played the still in progress instrumental tracks from "Graceland" for McCartney when they ran into one another in New York. They sat in Simon's car and while listening to the tracks, McCartney improvised vocal melodies to the tracks from Graceland (which he had never heard before, as it had not been completed yet). Paul Simon said he was astounded at the stuff McCartney came up with. He said most of it was damn good, especially coming from someone hearing the stuff for the first time. The guy just has a musical mind, period.

sixstringbastard · July 9th, 2008, 10:16 AM

When I hear his Wings material, musical virtuoso rarely comes to mind. The Beatles were a case of the sum being much greater than the parts.
If a solo Pauley Mac had tried to be a teen idol in 62 I doubt he would've written the depth of material without John, George, Ringo and George M. to influence and affect his creativity.

sixstringbastard · July 9th, 2008, 10:19 AM

I've always though that George should've quit the band right after the touring ended. I think he could've been a much more viable talent in another band, that he led. Just imagine George fronting a band like Cream.

reverbbb · July 9th, 2008, 10:26 AM

McCartney's perceived genius is in his fantastic melodic ear. He knows how to write melody like very few others on this planet (but not 'everyone' else).

Back in a 1969 Circus Magazine and Rolling Stone polls, Paul consistantly won the reader's choice for best bass player in the world. I always thought that was an odd title. But it was the perception of his audience at the time that he made melodic bass lines better than everyone else at the time. I went along with this notion because I was a huge fan of Beatles/Post-Beatles, especially Paul. I would say he was great and worthy of notariety. But he probably was not the technical 'best' or the the 'most' melodic bass player.

However, it should be noted that if you were a bass player back in 1969, it was extremely rare that you would produce your own album PLUS play every instrument, write and sing all the parts. This set another bar for many to follow in his footsteps.

Flat357 · July 9th, 2008, 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sixstringbastard

I've always though that George should've quit the band right after the touring ended. I think he could've been a much more viable talent in another band, that he led. Just imagine George fronting a band like Cream.

As much as I loved Georges musicality , I can't ever see him fronting a band like Cream .
He was a rock and roller , not a rocker . The wilburys was as good as it gets for me with George .

chrispscott · July 9th, 2008, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbouti

I was digging around for some pics of George with his tele, and his Casino w/bigsby, and came across this!

I'm almost positive he recorded the guitar solo to Good Morning, Good Morning with a Telecaster (possibly even a righty strung for a lefty.)

Edit:

Woah who the hell is calling McCartney overrated? The guy plays some of the most inventive basslines I have ever heard and then SINGS at the same time. Even the the throwaway songs like Silly Love Songs have amazing bass lines.

I remember when I was young and dumb I thought the Beatles were the first boy band and therefore sucked. What can I say I was 15 or 16 and N Sync was huge. Once I grew up a little bit and actually listened to the music they quickly became one of, if not, my favorite band(s).

I hate wanky musicians. As far bassists go give me McCartney or Rick Danko over some of the "virtuosos" anyday.

And the guitar solo to The End is one of my all time favorites with Paul playing my favorite parts.

Hecks · July 9th, 2008, 10:52 AM

Quoted from Beatlesgear.com:

On 28 March 1967 Paul McCartney is pictured at Abbey Road Studio 2 playing a Fender Esquire guitar in front of a Selmer Thunderbird Twin 50MkII amplifier, against which leans his Epiphone Casino. It is assumed that he used this set-up to record his guitar solos on "Good Morning Good Morning" and "Being For The Benefit Of Mr. Kite."

sixstringbastard · July 9th, 2008, 10:54 AM

I don't know...Taxman kind of rocks.

Maybe George would've moved to Cali and jammed with The Byrds. Imagine Crosby, Stills, Harrison and Young

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flat357

As much as I loved Georges musicality , I can't ever see him fronting a band like Cream .
He was a rock and roller , not a rocker . The wilburys was as good as it gets for me with George .

Mid Life Crisis · July 9th, 2008, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by sixstringbastard

I don't know...Taxman kind of rocks.

Sure does...as does Old Brown Shoe, Savoy Truffle, Its All Too Much.

I believe McCartney played the lead guitar on Taxman though.

Rick J · July 9th, 2008, 11:12 AM

You're right Midlife, Paul definitely played that wonderfully quirky little solo on "Taxman".

Rick J

chrispscott · July 9th, 2008, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Mid Life Crisis

Sure does...as does Old Brown Shoe, Savoy Truffle, Its All Too Much.

I believe McCartney played the lead guitar on Taxman though.

Off the top of my head Paul played lead on:
Drive My Car
Taxman
Good Morning, Good Morning (one of my favs)
Sgt Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band
1st of three on The End

Solo he played a ton of lead. His lead on Maybe I'm Amazing i

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Sheik Yerbouti Tele-Meister Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Boston Posts: 124 2 Photos	Sir Paul played alot of guitars, but did you seem him with this??? I was digging around for some pics of George with his tele, and his Casino w/bigsby, and came across this!

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reverbbb Friend of Leo's Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Just Plano, Texas Age: 49 Posts: 3,606 33 Photos	As a matter of fact, I sort of remember seeing that photo many years ago. What caught my attension back then was the fact that it was a lefty - I was not impressed with Telecasters back in them days (they weren't Les Pauls). That has got to be around 1970~71 during his "McCartney" album days (Too Many People/Another Day). __________________ "I come here to reflect a little."™ http://www.myspace.com/reverbbb2 Guitarist Praise & Worship Forum

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JimiBryant Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Chicago Chicago that toddlin' town Age: 46 Posts: 1,577	given his accomplishments, I can't see how he wouldn't have an enormous ego. dude wrote Yesterday the most-covered song in history 'nuff said! I remember also seeing a pic of Paul using an Esquire for a Sgt Pepper overdub session, into a Selmer Zodiac amp I think it was. __________________ I'm sick and tired of following my dreams, so I'm just gonna ask 'em where they're going and hook up with them later!

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reverbbb Friend of Leo's Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Just Plano, Texas Age: 49 Posts: 3,606 33 Photos	McCartney's perceived genius is in his fantastic melodic ear. He knows how to write melody like very few others on this planet (but not 'everyone' else). Back in a 1969 Circus Magazine and Rolling Stone polls, Paul consistantly won the reader's choice for best bass player in the world. I always thought that was an odd title. But it was the perception of his audience at the time that he made melodic bass lines better than everyone else at the time. I went along with this notion because I was a huge fan of Beatles/Post-Beatles, especially Paul. I would say he was great and worthy of notariety. But he probably was not the technical 'best' or the the 'most' melodic bass player. However, it should be noted that if you were a bass player back in 1969, it was extremely rare that you would produce your own album PLUS play every instrument, write and sing all the parts. This set another bar for many to follow in his footsteps. __________________ "I come here to reflect a little."™ http://www.myspace.com/reverbbb2 Guitarist Praise & Worship Forum

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Sheik Yerbouti Tele-Meister Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Boston Posts: 124 2 Photos	Yea, I noticed it was a lefty too, thought that was pretty freakin' cool. I know I am opening a box of trouble here, but I think he is underrated as a pure musician.

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Cassady Tele-Holic Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Lincoln, Nebraska Posts: 541	He's a superlative bass player and a darned good guitarist, too. He's played all, or almost all, of the instruments on several of his albums. That's a cool Tele he's got there. I'd be really interested in seeing his collection of left-handed instruments. I'm currently reading a history of the Les Paul and there's a couple of LPs that he owns pictured: an original '57 (I think) gold top and a '60 standard pictured in the book--both extremely rare, I'd imagine. Thanks for the picture, Cassady

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play_loud Tele-Meister Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Sydney Age: 19 Posts: 153	Definately... Alot of emphasis on him as being a great songwriter, not much credit given to his technical skill (esp. on bass). My all time favourite bass player. You cant deny the greatness of his basslines! Woo. I guess some modern bassists frown down upon them for their inherent simplicity (for the most part), but imo, its the simple basslines that are the best. Cheers. P.s AWESUM picture.

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ac15 Tele-Holic Join Date: May 2005 Location: CHICAGO, IL. Posts: 532	"I'm over 35. McCartney much overrated. Fantastic singer. Great song writer. Very, very, very good bass player. Virtuoso? No. Many, many more on that list before one gets to Sir Paul." I'm someone who generally thinks words like "virtuoso" and "genius" are way overused. But if Paul isn't a virtuoso, I'd like to know what the accomplishments are of "the many more on the list" before McCartney.

July 9th, 2008, 10:11 AM	#14 (permalink)
ac15 Tele-Holic Join Date: May 2005 Location: CHICAGO, IL. Posts: 532	Just to add...when I think of McCartney as an example of a brilliant talent I'm not necessarily talking about how many notes he can play or how many instruments he can play, but I think of the musical mind he has that allows him to do so many things well with complete ease. Basically, music just pours out of the guy. I read an interview a few years back with Paul Simon (no slouch himself), who said he played the still in progress instrumental tracks from "Graceland" for McCartney when they ran into one another in New York. They sat in Simon's car and while listening to the tracks, McCartney improvised vocal melodies to the tracks from Graceland (which he had never heard before, as it had not been completed yet). Paul Simon said he was astounded at the stuff McCartney came up with. He said most of it was damn good, especially coming from someone hearing the stuff for the first time. The guy just has a musical mind, period.

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sixstringbastard Tele-Meister Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Pittsburgh PA Age: 35 Posts: 169	When I hear his Wings material, musical virtuoso rarely comes to mind. The Beatles were a case of the sum being much greater than the parts. If a solo Pauley Mac had tried to be a teen idol in 62 I doubt he would've written the depth of material without John, George, Ringo and George M. to influence and affect his creativity.

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sixstringbastard Tele-Meister Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Pittsburgh PA Age: 35 Posts: 169	I've always though that George should've quit the band right after the touring ended. I think he could've been a much more viable talent in another band, that he led. Just imagine George fronting a band like Cream.

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Hecks TDPRI Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: OKC, OK Age: 25 Posts: 42	Quoted from Beatlesgear.com: On 28 March 1967 Paul McCartney is pictured at Abbey Road Studio 2 playing a Fender Esquire guitar in front of a Selmer Thunderbird Twin 50MkII amplifier, against which leans his Epiphone Casino. It is assumed that he used this set-up to record his guitar solos on "Good Morning Good Morning" and "Being For The Benefit Of Mr. Kite."

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Rick J Tele-Meister Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: North London, UK Posts: 442	You're right Midlife, Paul definitely played that wonderfully quirky little solo on "Taxman". Rick J __________________ "If you want to know what an electric guitar is supposed to sound like, just listen to this." - British DJ John Peel introducing a Roy Buchanan track on BBC radio in the late 60's.